Does anybody know if inhaling instead of ingesting food , flavor ingredients causes harm?
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If a million people do something and only one person has a problem we would say that's pretty safe but if you are that one in a million person you might say it's not so safe. So millions of people around the world have been vaping for years. Where are the reports of illnesses caused by using ecigs? I just finished reading a bunch of complaints reported to the FDA about using ecigs by ordinary people. After reading all that I think vaping may be even lower risk than I thought before.
If you are nervous about flavors do what I do. Get mixing supplies, DIY, and control the flavoring. A typical commercial e liquid may use 10% flavoring. The DIY I mix for my own use has 1% flavoring and tastes fine. If you are going to be a lifelong vaper you are going to be mixing and rebuilding eventually. Procrastinating is just costing you money.
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@sofarsogood sounds good and very logical. Some people just try to instill fear in everyone! Lol
My vew on that is, tobacco is a very big business. All that money is on the move. There are going to be big winners and big losers. The big losers are tax supported institutions. The big winners are basically everybody else. There are lot's of panic attacks on lots of levels by lots of people when there are big changes. The turmoil won't end for some decades so fasten your seatbelt.
There is not a chemical called "Flavorings/Artificial Sweeteners/Colorants".
The risk involved with the amount of "Flavorings/Artificial Sweeteners/Colorants", depends on exactly which "Flavorings/Artificial Sweeteners/Colorants" are being inhaled.
I think if you had a thousand vapers who vaped strictly unflavoured, versus a thousand vapers who vaped a variety of "Flavorings/Artificial Sweeteners/Colorants", one would observe less risks in the group using unflavoured.
Flavored or not I think we can agree it's still way healthier then smoking. some people say oh we don't know what the side effects will be from inhaling these artificial flavors sweeteners. But I'd be willing to bet that it's wayyyyy healthier then smoking! I mean we do ingest these ingredients through food anyways.
the human body is a machine designed by nature over millions of years... it will give you warning signs if something is amiss...
things stink, taste nasty, eyes water, nose runs, and one coughs.... if its a threat you will know...
things stink, taste nasty, eyes water, nose runs, and one coughs.... if its a threat you will know...
Very true @Bunnykiller !the human body is a machine designed by nature over millions of years... it will give you warning signs if something is amiss...
things stink, taste nasty, eyes water, nose runs, and one coughs.... if its a threat you will know...
Nobody knows for sure as there haven't been enough studies on it, let alone long term studies.
Dr. F. did a study a few years ago, you may want to read thru the topic starting at about page 8 where he talks about his thoughts (i.e. he did not actually perform long term studies on certain flavorings or chemicals, but has his own beliefs about it)
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Sorry, can't go with what you are saying.
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A healthy amount of caution is also good .... and should not be viewed as trying to instill fear.
As smokers we repeatedly blew off all the risks to justify continuing to smoke. There were plenty of arguments about things like 2nd hand smoke, for instance.
A healthy amount of caution, in the way we live life, is prudent and smart. (I've noticed those who don't have this either don't give a darn, or are past the point of true health and don't foresee getting there again, or aren't willing to do the work to make it possible. )
And, the older you get, the more work IS required. You can't just go on auto pilot, be a couch potato, eat or drink indiscriminately, etc. and expect to have lasting good health. Although some people are "just lucky".
There have always been detractors of tobacco use. The real health concerns became apparent after
the invention of cigarettes in the late 1800's. Cigarettes unlike pipe or cigars for some reason were
inhaled into the lungs as opposed to just blown out of the mouth. This increased the amounts of and
frequency of smoking related illnesses ultimately resulting in the realization of the hazards by the mid
1900's.
It's my opinion that some quantifiable lasting or accumulative short term harm in otherwise
healthy individuals had better be found pretty quick. (misuse and abuse aside) If non can be
found there will be no long term studies as there will be no indication of what to look for and
just who is going to pay for long term studies with out good reason?
arguments like these.
Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer
Federal Court Rejects EPA Secondhand Smoke Study | Heartlander Magazine
Regards
Mike
I may have been the one who mentioned the potential harm of inhaling flavorings repeatedly and over long periods of time in rcavly1's thread. Racehorse's opinion seems to be inline with how I feel about the subject. It's not that I'm trying to stir up concerns, just that I personally am not sure if inhaling these flavors 100+ times a day, ever day, for years and years will not have some sort of consequence down the road. This doesn't mean I'm convinced vaping is bad for people, just like I'm not convinced that it's entirely safe either. I'm just uncertain, is all.
I'm married to a nurse, who made a lot of nurse/doctor friends in school that we now hang out with, and so I may be a little more jaded about health issues than the average person. But, what I do know is that just because something is safe to digest doesn't mean it's safe to inhale. Our bodies have not evolved to ingest nicotine and flavorings via our lungs, especially on a frequent basis and over long periods of time. This doesn't necessarily mean that doing so is dangerous, but the potential is there.
I'm married to a nurse, who made a lot of nurse/doctor friends in school that we now hang out with, and so I may be a little more jaded about health issues than the average person. But, what I do know is that just because something is safe to digest doesn't mean it's safe to inhale. Our bodies have not evolved to ingest nicotine and flavorings via our lungs, especially on a frequent basis and over long periods of time. This doesn't necessarily mean that doing so is dangerous, but the potential is there.
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A lot of major juice companies produce juice using concentrates that are mainly used as 'food flavouring' but they just have not been verified as safe for inhalation. I use TFA - The Flavour Apprentice concentrates when DIYing, they are classed as food flavouring but so many people use them for vaping. They're perfectly safe just as long as they don't contain oils, if your still skeptical DIY your own juice so you know exactly what goes in it, and you can save money too.
Perhaps you or the vape industry doesn't see a "good reason".
Instead, we will just watch everybody else do studies, then say they are not sympathetic to vaping, or hate vaping, are paid shills, and negative study after study will continue to roll out, just as bans have rolled out across the land, state by state.
Nobody in this industry wants to pay for anything.
As for your belief about second hand smoke, put your infants and grandbabies in a car with closed windows, and close the windows in the nursery......and smoke a lot.
Be my guest.
Oh wait, it's not PC here to post any "for the children" posts is it. Never mind.
Be my guest.
Oh wait, it's not PC here to post any "for the children" posts is it. Never mind.
@Munk im glad you did comment on my thread earlier as its better to be informed then naive. With that being said I'm sure vaping with flavors or without is still healthier then smoking.
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