Does anyone have either a Merkava or Rose v2?

[musicman21]

Which of these 2 would you prefer overall? I'm really adjustable when it comes to airflow, whether an rba is a mouth to lung or a direct lung inhale, but overall, I'd prefer it to be somewhere in the middle of both of those I guess. I'd just like my next rta to be able to reach ohms down to .4 or so and be capable of going up to 50 watts without getting dry hits. If it's possible with either the Merkava of Rose v2, that would be excellent, but if not, I will end up buying a tilemahos v2, for I know that can withstand such power with the airflow it has. I also would like to know which one has better flavor of course.

Both of these should be able to due to the fact that they have juice flow control, but that's what I'm here to find out. Any feedback will be much appreciated.

 

[musicman21]

@qorax if you can help me with this, if you have both of these it would be much appreciated, for I am so new to RTAs, and and all of the RTA threads on the forum, and you seem to be very popular amongst the RTA threads here. Thanks

 

[AndyW]

I can only comment on the Rose v2 and I wouldn't recommend it for lung inhales, the airflow is too restrictive for comfortable lung inhaling. Superb flavour atty for mtl though.

 

[Izan]

Whatcha use'n now?
imrho- Tile' or Spheroid V4

cheers
I

 

[qorax]

Which of these 2 would you prefer overall? I'm really adjustable when it comes to airflow, whether an RBA is a mouth to lung or a direct lung inhale, but overall, I'd prefer it to be somewhere in the middle of both of those I guess. I'd just like my next RTA to be able to reach ohms down to .4 or so and be capable of going up to 50 watts without getting dry hits. If it's possible with either the Merkava or Rose v2, that would be excellent, but if not, I will end up buying a tilemahos v2, for I know that can withstand such power with the airflow it has. I also would like to know which one has better flavor of course.

Both of these should be able to due to the fact that they have juice flow control, but that's what I'm here to find out. Any feedback will be much appreciated.

Hi, I have neither. Reasons: personal preferences.

1. Are you using a mech mod? B'coz if not, how does super low ohms matter? With a regulated mod you can always adjust your power to whatever warmth / vapor / taste you'd prefer out of you coil.
2. Tilemahos V2 is a fine RTA, but remember it is 21mm. If you're using 22mm mods - it might hit your OCD.
3. In 21mm GEM by MarkBugs is also fantastic.
4. In 22mm GUS Phenomenon Lite (Momentous) is very good.
5. In 22mm URBA by @petar k is different.
6. In 16mm GP Spheroid V4 is outstanding.

~All of the above have AFC, so you can fine tune the draw to your liking (MTL > DLH)
~Overall Spheroid V4 is the king of flavor and easiest to refill / rewick, imo.
~All of the above are flavor chasing RTAs

 

[qorax]

Btw, I'm posting this link on our RTA discussion thread ~ some folks who have both could reply back to you.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-pictorial-builds-and-reviews.633689/page-218

 

[Grrrr]

@musicman21 I don't have a Rose but I do have a Merkava. The Merkava is a very nice flavorful atty, it has easy top fill and deck access without draining the tank, I'm very happy with it. Another one you may want to look at is the Phenomenon by GUS, again a wonderful flavor atty and my current favorite. I have 7 of them. You can read more about it here:

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/phenomenon-our-new-rba-only-from-gus.647591/

 

[musicman21]

thanks so much @quorax. I'm always using a regulated device these days. I always figured building low, at about .3 or .4 and cranking it to 40 or 50 watts would provide a more substantially warm vape when I compared it to my RDA, the yaeliq in the past. I don't need it extremely hot. Just a tad hot to give it a nice boost of a lung hit will do, on top of the 12 mg nicotine I'm using. Because I do believe when I used the Yaeliq, since the chimney airflow was built so high, I was so content with it bc it provided such a great throat hit, with only 4 mm of airflow.

Out of the ones that you listed, which would you say can actually handle higher wattage? Because I've watched all of your reviews by now lol and can see that you build over 1.0 on most except for the estia which was .92 or so, and can't determine which will handle wicking the best.

 

[musicman21]

thanks so much @qorax . Sorry misspelled your forum name wrong before. I'm always using a regulated device these days. I always figured building low, at about .3 or .4 and cranking it to 40 or 50 watts would provide a more substantially warm vape when I compared it to my RDA, the yaeliq in the past. I don't need it extremely hot. Just a tad hot to give it a nice boost of a lung hit will do, on top of the 12 mg nicotine I'm using. Because I do believe when I used the Yaeliq, since the chimney airflow was built so high, I was so content with it bc it provided such a great throat hit, with only 4 mm of airflow.

Out of the ones that you listed, which would you say can actually handle higher wattage? Because I've watched all of your reviews by now lol and can see that you build over 1.0 on most except for the estia which was .92 or so, and can't determine which will handle wicking the best.

 

[musicman21]

@Izan I'm using a silverplay, which I'm not content with, because I get much better flavor out of my yaeliq rda with 4 mm airflow. I turn down the airflow to 2-3 mm on the silverplay. Just got a tengu v2. Had to return it due to some malfunctions, so now taking a peek at some others : ) As long as I can get a good HOT vape from whichever unit, so it will add to the power of the throat hit, yet be capable of being turned up in the wattage department.

Sorry guys, I'm a little bit of a newbie with RTAs. I love these things. I really hate RDAs. But I am obsessed with the idea of air coming from under the coil, and with tanks altogether, and don't know why I haven't been onto these sooner. I used to use boge 2.0 cartos with my provari a couple years back but retired them when rdas were the new thing. Now I am sick of seeing all of it, and want to go back to basics.

 

[musicman21]

@Grrrr Thanks so much for response! Can you turn the wattage up relatively high to maybe 40 watts on the merkava do you think? Is it relatively easy to wick it? I see that you have to tuck the wick down the gaps on the sides of base, where the air flow control lies, right? And is it mtl completely or a just a tad airier than that?

 

[musicman21]

Don't mean to bother everyone, like I said a newbie here with too many questions, and only experience on boge cartos and a silverplay. I know there is better out there, and I'm trying to get as much feedback as possible. Some may find me a nuisance, and some have already in one thread I believe, but if you are willing, please help me, because I only have a couple of acquaintances I see every once and a blue moon at my local brick and mortar shop who actually use these great quality RTAs. Everyone else strictly uses extreme sub ohm rdas, or sub ohm tanks, and it's just not for me. Thanks!

 

[qorax]

thanks so much @qorax . Sorry misspelled your forum name wrong before. I'm always using a regulated device these days. I always figured building low, at about .3 or .4 and cranking it to 40 or 50 watts would provide a more substantially warm vape when I compared it to my RDA, the yaeliq in the past. I don't need it extremely hot. Just a tad hot to give it a nice boost of a lung hit will do, on top of the 12 mg nicotine I'm using. Because I do believe when I used the Yaeliq, since the chimney airflow was built so high, I was so content with it bc it provided such a great throat hit, with only 4 mm of airflow.

Out of the ones that you listed, which would you say can actually handle higher wattage? Because I've watched all of your reviews by now lol and can see that you build over 1.0 on most except for the estia which was .92 or so, and can't determine which will handle wicking the best.

Hi, all my RTAs can be effectively built to super-subs AND can be hit with 30, 40, 50W Yes, my usual builds are around 1-1.2 Ohms (b'coz that's what is my sweetspot - giving me the vape satisfaction I want) I yet do off-n-on build subs, 0.3 Ohms being the lowest i'd go btw.

AND I have not found any significant (none actually) difference in vape quality between super-subs and my 1-1.2 Ohms. In fact I feel going super-subs is detrimental to the flavor profile of the juice.

I have multiple unit of each atty, the ones you see in my vids. And they are each kept built differently. Just for testing. Some are with Ni200, some in super-subs, some with Vertical coils etc. But the ones I enjoy using are the ones with 1 Ohm+.

So yes, be it the GEM, or the Calix, or Tilemahos, Phen-Lite, whatever ~ all can perform equally well in sub-Ohm territory. What matters is how you wick it based on the viscosity of your juice.

 

[Grrrr]

@Grrrr Thanks so much for response! Can you turn the wattage up relatively high to maybe 40 watts on the merkava do you think? Is it relatively easy to wick it? I see that you have to tuck the wick down the gaps on the sides of base, where the air flow control lies, right? And is it mtl completely or a just a tad airier than that?

I almost exclusively use mech mods and build to around .8 to 1 Ohm I can't speak to high wattage regulated vaping but as qorax has stated it's all related to the wicking/juice viscocity and whether it can keep up etc

As for the Merkava I'm predominantly a MTL vaper and I use the Merkava on the 2nd to smallest air hole and that's a nice MTL vape for me, I have no doubt that opened up it can be lung hit, and yes it's easy to wick it.

 

[musicman21]

@qorax Thank you so much, my friend. A lot of people were telling me it is rare that these are made to be pushed to sub ohm territory and can't handle it, but I thought there was something to that, and they've just never quite tried it, or thought they weren't actually meant to be utilized with low builds.

You seem to be quite the aficionado with these devices here lol Thank you for the great advice. I'm looking into the gp Spheriod and gp heron 1.5 as well. I would rather utilize them as a tank system instead of using the filler material. There's a pre order now for the spheroid v4, but vapourart has the gpheron. Is that easy to build, compared to most that you've dealt with? I love how the gem looks, but cannot find them in stock anywhere.

 

[musicman21]

@qorax Also, I just checked out your momentous rta video and that does look very appealing. Is that one you'd recommend for using 3mm 24g kanthal, though you'd have to lift it above the posts instead of between. Are there any you can recommend that have good spacing for such coils? Thanks for all the help. My search has been narrowed down to a couple now. The shperoid v4 looks like it can match about anything.

 

[qorax]

Any RTA which has a compact chamber will NOT be suitable for 3mm coils. It can be done in most - but is not meant for. Phen-Momentous, GEM and Spheroids are very compact. URBA and Calix are very affable for 3mm+ coils.

 

[musicman21]

Thank you @qorax. I think I'm just going to expand my horizons and see how smaller diameter coils go in the ones that interest me, for so many of these look like such a treat. Thanks for all the help. I will continually be checking out your youtube channel, for you seem to be the #1 guy to keep me up to date with all of these lovely treasures. Just subscribed today. Thanks again!

 

[qorax]

Thank you @qorax. I think I'm just going to expand my horizons and see how smaller diameter coils go in the ones that interest me, for so many of these look like such a treat. Thanks for all the help. I will continually be checking out your youtube channel, for you seem to be the #1 guy to keep me up to date with all of these lovely treasures. Just subscribed today. Thanks again!

Thanks for subscribing buddy