does deeming = a return to smoking

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Jman8

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If they are clearly lying about vaping, not sure why any sane person would trust them on smoking stuff? Or at very least why cite their data regarding "smoking kills?" I partially protest smoke at this point and around 5 a week. I still think smoking moderately rocks.
 

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While the FDA does not effect me as I live in the UK, we have our own version TPD. Some of the details in the regulations differ but the end results will be the same. Our governments have handed the advantage back to big tobacco and big pharma. This has been coming for some time, it was never going to go in any other direction, just way to much money involved for any other outcome.

I won't return to smoking. I won't be buying big tobacco or big pharma products either. I use very basic kit that I can repair with a few simple tools. If needs be I can get copies of the mod's and rda's I use made at pretty much any machine shop. Nearly everything else that I need to vape is available from non vape related stores. The only sticking point is the Nic. I will continue to buy concentrated Nic until it is unavailable to me.
 
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Nope, I have two years to stockpile nicotine. I'll have 14 gallons of 100 mg by the time this stuff gets banned. So I'll be good on nicotine for the next 30 years or so ;)
Lol you think like I do. I'll have a stockpile of DIY supplies/nicotine and backup mods/etc. They can regulate the industry all they want, but they won't be regulating me personally, so...
 
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If they are clearly lying about vaping, not sure why any sane person would trust them on smoking stuff? Or at very least why cite their data regarding "smoking kills?" I partially protest smoke at this point and around 5 a week. I still think smoking moderately rocks.
Although I'll defend your (or anyone else's) right to smoke, I'm somewhat annoyed that you're one of the supposed 70% of vapers that Zeller used to advance the claim that vaping is "ineffective".
 
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Nope, I have two years to stockpile nicotine. I'll have 14 gallons of 100 mg by the time this stuff gets banned. So I'll be good on nicotine for the next 30 years or so ;)
Are you stocking for more than one person? I'm on the high end of the nicotine use bell curve, but a gallon would still last me about 10 years...
 
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