Does this seem right to you?
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Every time I saw lollipops in Playboy, I just knew they were targeting the children..... 
...you must have missed all of the hearings (local state and federal) and the FDA workshops then because save the children is the main theme with cutesie labels and flavors as the stars and let not forget smoke tricks... throw in big increase in use by teens because of course youth targeted marketing, sprinkle in bogus "scientific" studies that help "prove" all that and top it off with a sharp rise in nicotine related poisonings (and 2 deaths) among children from eliquids and you have the ANTZ basic foundation. So in a word yes you should be hearing those alarms loud and clear.
I think it is Safe to Say that Most of the people hear have Not Watched any of the Senate Hearings or FDA Workshops. Because if they had, I don't think Many would Post what they do,
I remember someone once asked Jim Lehrer on the "News Hour" if he knew why Senate Hearings were 2 Hours Long?
Lehrer said... "No. I have Never thought about it?"
His guest smiled and then replied... "The Reason Senate Hearings are 2 Hours Long is because the Average Intention Span of the Average Person is Only 30 Minutes".
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as you have stated most eloquently our fate is already sealed.
if the battle is indeed lost then its guerrilla warfare time.
remember there will be almost 2 years after the deeming reg.'s
are announced before they become the law of the land.
that means a lot more vapers coming online.
in the mean time i am going to fight the good fight.
i understand perfectly well how the system works.
you kiss their ring finger and they'll allow you some
pigs feet while they dine on pork loin.
in the words of the immortal Bluto.
"its not over until we say its over"
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mike
as you have stated most eloquently our fate is already sealed.
if the battle is indeed lost then its guerrilla warfare time.
remember there will be almost 2 years after the deeming reg.'s
are announced before they become the law of the land.
that means a lot more vapers coming online.
in the mean time i am going to fight the good fight.
i understand perfectly well how the system works.
you kiss their ring finger and they'll allow you some
pigs feet while they dine on pork loin.
in the words of the immortal Bluto.
"its not over until we say its over"
regards
mike
There Really wasn't any question about Labeling, CRP and an Age Limit.
So yeah... If you want to phrase it "are fate is sealed" for those concepts, you are correct. But there is a Host of Other items (that Actually Impact Vapers) where our Fate is Not Sealed.
So this Fight is by No Means over.
The beef jerky "chew" is really, really good...
beef jerky chew - Google Search
Have they outlawed that yet?
I can't find it anywhere anymore.
Maybe I have to just order some online.
They haven't outlawed online sales yet, have they?
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BTW - Here is a Post by someone in another thread who apparently has Not Seen the Senate Hearing if have Posted Numerous times in this thread.
Divide and conquer. ANTZ "Cutesy labels are dangerous for the kids."
Vapor " well I agree I have kids and parenting without regulations is hard so I'll give them that I know other vapors like the curtesy labels but they are stupid"
ANTZ "We had a victory it was small but a victory non the less and considering how easy it was we can move along to the larger things and look how much money we saved"
Vapor " what we give you the labels so you would leave us alone now you want to take my strawberry cup cake flavor as well"
Vapor 2 " I only vape tobacco so it seems reasonable that we don't need wonderful flavors to enjoy vaping we will still have tobacco and menthol and all these wonderful mods and sub ohm droppers and tanks."
ANTZ " wow what a huge victory we had today but the fight is not over they still have the dangerous Sub-ohm mods that kill people with atomic sized explosions and burning down whole neighborhoods."
Vapor 2 " what we gave you the tasty flavors now you want my mods?"
I think the brain dead can understand it now.
Vapor " well I agree I have kids and parenting without regulations is hard so I'll give them that I know other vapors like the curtesy labels but they are stupid"
ANTZ "We had a victory it was small but a victory non the less and considering how easy it was we can move along to the larger things and look how much money we saved"
Vapor " what we give you the labels so you would leave us alone now you want to take my strawberry cup cake flavor as well"
Vapor 2 " I only vape tobacco so it seems reasonable that we don't need wonderful flavors to enjoy vaping we will still have tobacco and menthol and all these wonderful mods and sub ohm droppers and tanks."
ANTZ " wow what a huge victory we had today but the fight is not over they still have the dangerous Sub-ohm mods that kill people with atomic sized explosions and burning down whole neighborhoods."
Vapor 2 " what we gave you the tasty flavors now you want my mods?"
I think the brain dead can understand it now.
Which totally explains how almost everyone here began smoking in the first place, right? I'm sure all of our parents fully approved of us taking up the smoking habit, right? Or we all waited until we were legal adults before having our first cigarette.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm dead set against government regulation, but thinking that "good parenting" is going to prevent kids from seeking out these products that look very attractive from a kids point of view can only be described as a serious case of denial. Labels like this look almost exactly like the packaging of children's breakfast cereal which we teach our kids is good and is made just for them. If you think that "good parenting" stops children from doing anything that is wrong then you either never did anything at all in your entire life that your parents told you not to do, you had very bad parents that never bothered to tell you not to do any of bad things or bad habits that you've done, or you have a seriously bad case of denial of the realities of your own life.
That jerky chew was great. I was awfully fond of candy cigarettes too as a kid. Not that I woudl pretend to smoke them. I liked the taste. The 5-10 cent box would usually last less that 5 seconds.
I'm in Michigan and still see that stuff at basically every corner store lol
Oh, yeah, I'm in California.
I guess I should preface my posts with that fact.
Have you ever tried asian pork sung? Rousong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Very similar, and delicious.
Oh, yeah, I'm in California.
I guess I should preface my posts with that fact.
I've never had beef jerky chew but I can confirm that pork sung (aka meat floss!) is delicious!
great... now I'm craving some rice porridge with pork sung, scallions, and maybe a salted duck egg....
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