Sounds like you got a few defective clones.
I have purchased a few myself, none of which had any issues.
I have purchased a few myself, none of which had any issues.
Done with clones!
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Ive got nothing but clones and nothing but good performance from all but one i returned to vendor for a refund, maybe you have bad luck. I cant be too sure, i have a friend who seems to break every ecig i give him within time, strips threads, breaks tanks, things i used for months and months that still looked new he ruined in weeks. I cant say how careful you are with your mods, so dont take it personal, but you can never be too careful imo!
I was almost certain you were joking but it could be interpreted wrong. Admittedly his first post looked more like he was just venting. Always glad to have another older guy like me around to share advice. Peace
OP, just curious what you mean when you say your Atomic clone is broken? I've had mine for 2 months now and it's a champ. My only gripe was that the post holes were tiny, but I drilled them out with a 1/16" bit and now I can fit anything in there! My Atomic handled a drill fine, I'm just curious how yours is broken.
But my Hcigar M16 is a champ. Threads are smooth, nothing catches, the finish on everything is great, and it's survived a few drops. I had a buddy of mine's Panzer clone cross threaded at the locking ring though. He couldn't vape for a few days due to it being stuck in the locked position, but he managed to back it out.
Some clones are definitely better than others
But my Hcigar M16 is a champ. Threads are smooth, nothing catches, the finish on everything is great, and it's survived a few drops. I had a buddy of mine's Panzer clone cross threaded at the locking ring though. He couldn't vape for a few days due to it being stuck in the locked position, but he managed to back it out.
Some clones are definitely better than others
I just got a Diablo clone on eBay for $20 shipped and I'm very happy with it. Then again, I know a few people that have clones and say they're crap compared to authentics. Like herb said everyone has their own experiences. My motto is if it's $20 or less then it's worth a shot. Lol.
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I only have one clone that I just absolutely cannot get working. It is an AIOS clone from Fasttech. I truly am not sure if the clone is bad or I just do not understand how to set it up. LOL
Oh well into the vapocalypse box it goes.
Oh well into the vapocalypse box it goes.
I would say my success rate with clones is about 80%
But that means taking into account the well documented issues that the original had, and not counting that against the clone. The very well known voltage drop on the Blackhawk, for example. Certainly can't expect the clone to be better than the original. ( though some arguably are.)
Do you have access to an authentic to compare? You might be surprised.
But that means taking into account the well documented issues that the original had, and not counting that against the clone. The very well known voltage drop on the Blackhawk, for example. Certainly can't expect the clone to be better than the original. ( though some arguably are.)
Do you have access to an authentic to compare? You might be surprised.
Its funny you say this because I'm currently having the clone vs og debate in my head over buying a mech mod. Looking at going with the smok magneto or one of the various clones on the market. Price is my main concern and the magneto seems like a good cheap starting point. Although since the hana clones have hit the market I'm trying to resist the urge to make an impulse buy. So many choices...
i love all my clones (v3 flip gold, tobh, zenith v2, nemesis etc) except for the CATS but i think thats just becasue i dont like the cats in general...too hard to build. but that air conditioning design needs to e put to use on more rdas
Before I had made the trade with my coworker he showed me his sad attempt at a build (probably why he gave up mech mods). It wasn't firing so I adjusted the positive pin. When I decided to rebuild it today I needed to do the same thing, but it was too tight to adjust. Finally I used pliers and a better screwdriver. This thing wasn't going to budge. I even broke the head off of a flat head bit. Finally it started to turn and the positive post turned with it. At this point I cannot get it loose and the pin is almost stripped. I don't know what else to do. Unless he's a complete ....., I don't see how he could have tightened it down that hard. Possibly melted the insulator to it? Any ideas? If I can get it out I could replace the pin.
Personally, i am against clones that copy the logo ( if they dont copy it then no prbs here)
I also only buy originals.
However, companies such as H Cigar, Infinite, and EH Pro make some good clones.
Having seen clones of my mods side by side with the clones, I cant say that the quality is equal, especially in fit and finish.....HOWEVER
There are many well built clones that perform.
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I also only buy originals.
However, companies such as H Cigar, Infinite, and EH Pro make some good clones.
Having seen clones of my mods side by side with the clones, I cant say that the quality is equal, especially in fit and finish.....HOWEVER
There are many well built clones that perform.
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I think that saying you'll never buy another clone, because you've had a bad experience with a couple of them, is doing yourself a disservice.
There are so many clones, obviously they aren't all bad! If you have unlimited income, it doesn't matter. If you don't, and you decide to never purchase a clone, you're probably going to miss out on quite a bit!
I've purchased two Kayfun Lite + clones, one from EHPro, and love 'em both! I wasn't sure if I really wanted to get into rebuildable attys, and wasn't going to spend $100+, even if I can afford it, without having any experience in rebuildables.
Now that i have owned two Kayfun Lite + clones, and love 'em both... I'm checking out RDA's.
My two cents, but obviously ALL clones aren't bad! Do major research, and don't sell yourself short because of a few bad experiences.
There are so many clones, obviously they aren't all bad! If you have unlimited income, it doesn't matter. If you don't, and you decide to never purchase a clone, you're probably going to miss out on quite a bit!
I've purchased two Kayfun Lite + clones, one from EHPro, and love 'em both! I wasn't sure if I really wanted to get into rebuildable attys, and wasn't going to spend $100+, even if I can afford it, without having any experience in rebuildables.
Now that i have owned two Kayfun Lite + clones, and love 'em both... I'm checking out RDA's.
My two cents, but obviously ALL clones aren't bad! Do major research, and don't sell yourself short because of a few bad experiences.
Interesting, I encountered a similar issue with my friend's IGO. It seemed like the center pin and the connection at the 510 is one piece. I have no clue why there's a slot for a flat head. Similar thing with my Atomic, the 510 connection moves the center post with it. If that 510 connection is supposed to move independently, maybe EHpro neglected that aspect and made it all one piece.
What I ended up doing was grinding down the plastic insulator on the mod's top cap so that the floating firing pin could reach the atty. It's a clone, so I didn't really mind if it didn't work. It did work, however, and my buddy's IGO and my Atomic fire on his mech.
What I would do is take a small hex driver and put it in the holes and use it as leverage so you can center up the positive pole again. Then if you can, grind down the plastic insulator on your mod's top cap to try and get the firing pin to reach the atty. If you don't have a lot of plastic to grind, I wouldn't bother. My friend's mod had about 2mm of plastic and I had to grind it down to about flush to the top cap before it made a connection.
Good luck man!
I understand what you mean, I really do. I would prefer the "real thing" all the time, but my wallet says different. My biggest gripe is sellers trying to pass of a clone as the real thing. I hate that I have to check to see if something is real or not with a scratch off.
The market is too saturated with clones and that makes it frustrating. Like someone said, research research research before spending money on a clone. Sometimes for me, paying for an authentic item outweighs paying for a few mediocre clones. I have several kayfun clones that work pretty good most of the time, but I have never regretted buying the authentic kayfun. There is a difference, especially for someone like me who doesn't haven't superior rebuilding skills. I just bought a mini Kayfun clone. I haven't tried it out yet, but I can tell you, I would never ever spend 165.00 for the real thing. It's fun to get it and if it isn't a five star vape, no great loss. The nice thing about clones is, you can decide if the authentic is really worth it, and buy it later, but the flip side, if you get a bad clone, you might miss out on a really good tank or mod because the clone left a really bad impression.
The bottom line is, I just want to vape and relax. For those people who love to fiddle and fix, the clones are ideal. The truth is I only buy clones cuz my kids spend all my money, leaving me with few options. I need to quit spoiling the kids!!!!
The market is too saturated with clones and that makes it frustrating. Like someone said, research research research before spending money on a clone. Sometimes for me, paying for an authentic item outweighs paying for a few mediocre clones. I have several kayfun clones that work pretty good most of the time, but I have never regretted buying the authentic kayfun. There is a difference, especially for someone like me who doesn't haven't superior rebuilding skills. I just bought a mini Kayfun clone. I haven't tried it out yet, but I can tell you, I would never ever spend 165.00 for the real thing. It's fun to get it and if it isn't a five star vape, no great loss. The nice thing about clones is, you can decide if the authentic is really worth it, and buy it later, but the flip side, if you get a bad clone, you might miss out on a really good tank or mod because the clone left a really bad impression.
The bottom line is, I just want to vape and relax. For those people who love to fiddle and fix, the clones are ideal. The truth is I only buy clones cuz my kids spend all my money, leaving me with few options. I need to quit spoiling the kids!!!!
I just picked up a SvoMesto KayFun 3.1 and it has been good. My first Kayfun.
No leaks at all, I let it lay on it's side all night,, not a leak at all.
I have taken it apart several times now cause I am getting harsh hits.
But I narrowed it down to my juice, not the Kayfun.
Quite impressed with the Kayfun 3.1.
This is a clone of the original Kayfun, which, if I am not mistaken is a clone of the Russian 91%? or is that the other way around
I am not sure.
But the SvoMesto is built in Germany and the machining is so good that you can not see the seams at all.
The threading is smooth as silk.
I mean you have to be looking right at them to see the tiny lines. From just a few inches away, it's looks like a solid piece.
I generally like to only buy originals, such as the original Vision ViVi Nova's, some of the clones are garbage and fall apart.
And I want my money going to the original designer.
But I looked at the Russian 91% and the Kayfun, but the SvoMesto seemed better and I like the size.
For me, I will only find shops now where I can put my hands on things. I will rarely buy online anymore unless I have to.
And that will depend on the item.
For the record, I never would have bought a Kayfun without first getting my hands on it.
I bought an IBTanked, and I am not impressed. Looks good, but I just really do not like Carto's.
Bought an AGAT-2 and have done everything to try and get it working,
I am not sure I would have bought it if I had gotten my hands on it first.
I have others, and sold others that I would never have bought had I picked it up in my hands first.
No leaks at all, I let it lay on it's side all night,, not a leak at all.
I have taken it apart several times now cause I am getting harsh hits.
But I narrowed it down to my juice, not the Kayfun.
Quite impressed with the Kayfun 3.1.
This is a clone of the original Kayfun, which, if I am not mistaken is a clone of the Russian 91%? or is that the other way around
I am not sure.
But the SvoMesto is built in Germany and the machining is so good that you can not see the seams at all.
The threading is smooth as silk.
I mean you have to be looking right at them to see the tiny lines. From just a few inches away, it's looks like a solid piece.
I generally like to only buy originals, such as the original Vision ViVi Nova's, some of the clones are garbage and fall apart.
And I want my money going to the original designer.
But I looked at the Russian 91% and the Kayfun, but the SvoMesto seemed better and I like the size.
For me, I will only find shops now where I can put my hands on things. I will rarely buy online anymore unless I have to.
And that will depend on the item.
For the record, I never would have bought a Kayfun without first getting my hands on it.
I bought an IBTanked, and I am not impressed. Looks good, but I just really do not like Carto's.
Bought an AGAT-2 and have done everything to try and get it working,
I am not sure I would have bought it if I had gotten my hands on it first.
I have others, and sold others that I would never have bought had I picked it up in my hands first.
This store owner and his staff didn't say anything about these being clones. I knew they were clones immediately. But for some one new to vaping, it's dishonest. The first time is was there a kid was rebuilding a new RDA because he melted the insulator off his old one and shorted it out. The owner tried to help, but he knew it was ruined. So the kid ended up buying a new RDA. I think this guy started on the juice side of things, and because the originals are so expensive he stocked his stir full of clones. It was nice to get my hands on them before purchase. Next time it think of getting something from him it will be getting a full build inspection first.
I couldn't disagree more, clones have helped people rid themselves of cigarettes where normal egos or stick batteries just weren't enough. Spending 200 dollars on a steel tube with a serial number that's available for a month or two then put of of commission isn't helping anyone except the mod maker which is useless. I own 10 dollar mods and 200 dollar mods both have their place in the community.
I only had a problem with one clone and it's a HCigar KFL + v3 all my other clones are perfect. atomic, stillare, magma 3x kfl ehpro... love ehpro and Infinite
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