Considering an electronic cigarette, I think they are great, however some companies are using scare tactics to sell you on their brand. More to follow on a specific company in my next post.
Don't believe the lies!
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This type of hype is going to increase as the popularity of vaping increases & it will scam a lot of people out of their hard earned cash. It will also turn many of them off to eCigs. Shame!
Well at least those that have found ECF won't be scammed. Additionally with the web available to most those that do get scammed should really do some homework first. In this day and age a little research can save you $$$$$$ on anything you buy. Why should PV's be any different.
I see this all the time. What it comes down to here is do your own homework. Regular analogs have much larger amounts of DEG in them then E-Liquid, which is not "anti freeze" but a component of it. Its simple chemicals here not gallons of rat poison and cooking oil. I agree the bigger this gets the more controversy we will see pop up. Hopefully with an equally strong counter movement in favor of E-Cigs.
I know, It seems like all these rebrand e cigs have the capacity to at least one pack of cigs to one cartridge lol! And the rebranders are always saying they are way more superior to the competition. I just feel bad for those who try these rebranders first. Bigtime rip offs!
Strange. I seem to be unable to verify that they are a BBB Accredited Business as they appear to claim on their website. Perhaps it's my inferior search skills. Anyone else have any luck?
gotta love the lies..........the first time I tried an ecig on the vegas strip a few years ago, they actually had models demo-ing them.
Exactly.
Funny how that link works......sorry been out of town.
It's an KR808-D2 cartomizer with an E9 battery,
same as the greensmoke, and many more.
I was very unhappy with the customer service, the owner contacted me back on facebook and said that, for some reason, mail sent to a verizon.net address gets kicked back. I couldn't order anything for a week and decided to look around to find out what my cartomizer type was. The secret exposed... I now have a 510 > K2 adapter that rules. Had no idea this thread had grown like this, I was just frustrated at the time I posted it.
I don't think the claim that a specific brand of juice is better because it doesn't contain DEG, vs. a competitor's juice, is necessarily a scare tactic or deceitful. But you can't always trust a suppliers own claims, either. Some juices have tested with unacceptable levels of impurities, and it is something to be mindful of, best to stay away from dirt cheap ejuice from China. If something is too good to be true, like 30ml of high nic flavored ejuice for $6.99 - then it probably is.
Having said that, there are definitely some shady suppliers, poor equipment, overpriced goods, crappy websites, and outrageous claims. It is a buyer beware industry.
Is made in the U.S.A. necessarily better than made in China? No, but China's standards are pretty lax, remember all the cat/dog food, drywall, and baby formula poisonings in the last few years? Of course even here it isn't a regulated industry, so no guarantees.
Having said that, there are definitely some shady suppliers, poor equipment, overpriced goods, crappy websites, and outrageous claims. It is a buyer beware industry.
Is made in the U.S.A. necessarily better than made in China? No, but China's standards are pretty lax, remember all the cat/dog food, drywall, and baby formula poisonings in the last few years? Of course even here it isn't a regulated industry, so no guarantees.
I'm not aware of any e-juice that has tested with unacceptable levels of anything. I know that one was tested that did contain something, but that tobacco contains about 11000X that same thing (can't remember what it was exactly).
I don't recommend e-cigs for non-smokers for that reason, but switching from tobacco cigs they'd have to be made with arsenic and cyanide to be worse for you (and even then it's questionable since tobacco cigs are made with those ingredients).
Rosa, I did a bit of research and this is what I've found:
Nitrosamines (TSNAs) are carcinogens present in Nicotine.
· E-Cigarette cartridges labeled "high" strength contain 8 nanograms.
· An 21-mg FDA-approved Nicoderm patch also contains 8 ng of TSNAs.
· A pack of tobacco cigarettes typically contains over 100,000 ng of TSNAs.
Synthetic nicotine is free of TSNAs, but I can only find out that it's very pricey to make.
DEG, another carcinogen, is left behind when the PG is purified. The maximum concentratrion of DEG permitted in USP PG is 0.1%
For a company to claim that their juice is free from DEGs and then they never posts any test results of batch numbers as promised in the ads for this brand. I want to know where they get the PG they're using from?
Nitrosamines (TSNAs) are carcinogens present in Nicotine.
· E-Cigarette cartridges labeled "high" strength contain 8 nanograms.
· An 21-mg FDA-approved Nicoderm patch also contains 8 ng of TSNAs.
· A pack of tobacco cigarettes typically contains over 100,000 ng of TSNAs.
Synthetic nicotine is free of TSNAs, but I can only find out that it's very pricey to make.
DEG, another carcinogen, is left behind when the PG is purified. The maximum concentratrion of DEG permitted in USP PG is 0.1%
For a company to claim that their juice is free from DEGs and then they never posts any test results of batch numbers as promised in the ads for this brand. I want to know where they get the PG they're using from?
For what it's worth, there are more TSNAs in bacon, hot dogs, and other food items than you'll get from vaping.
If you're really concerned, vape only VG.
If you're really concerned, vape only VG.
I'll really be glad when proper studies are finally done to verify the truth. Until then, I'll stick with vaping instead of smoking thank you very much.
Scare tactics are part of underhanded marketing schemes. When someone tells you how good their product is and then proceeds to disparage their competitor, walk away.
ECF members are part of an informed group. We have resources to find out what's hype and what's true and don't get ripped off very often!
ECF members are part of an informed group. We have resources to find out what's hype and what's true and don't get ripped off very often!
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