Don't carry spare battery in pocket with coins

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fourtytwo

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Is this open batteries onlyor will my ego do something like this too? I never considered it when I threw the thing in my clutch with all kinds of things made of metal? Call me stupid I don't care, the only stupid question is the one not asked!

An eGo is different. It is a small battery in a tube with a button. It also has an auto cutoff after a pre-set time limit. If you carry it with some form of device attached, such as a carto or clearo, you should be safe.
 

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Go to Wal-Mart and get a couple of waterproof match tubes in the camping section for $1.00. You can fit 2 18350 batteries or 1 18650 battery inside the tube. If you are worried about stacking the 18350 then using a plastic washer between the batteries.



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I also collect flashlights and used to build RC cars when I was younger. Both of those hobbies have the same dangers related to battery failures, it just seems like the vaping community is still so new with new people joining daily that battery safety isn't well known throughout the whole community yet.

Li-Ion batteries are dangerous, immediate discharge could result in high temp overload, out gassing of toxic fumes, combustion. Our MODS are essentially pressure vessels and conductors during these conditions, if there are no pressure reliefs designed into the mod either through manufactured failure points or sufficient venting the MOD can either turn into a bomb, or if the sidewall strength is strong enough into a flame thrower or worst a gun, also the MOD can quickly conduct the heat and depending on where the unit is during the failure, it may potentially burn the user if inside a pocket and is not removed quickly enough.

Even though I'm new to these forums I am not new to dangers of batteries and combustion. Hopefully the vaping community stresses vaping safety to all new users much like those in the gun community. Even if you don't agree with guns, the first thing that is stressed to all new gun users are the potential lethal repercussions of careless gun handling.
 

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When someone posts something because they hope it will help others avoid the same mistake, the last thing you need to hear that someone thinks you are stupid or have no common sense. Maybe it wasn't meant that way, but that's how I took it. I have a job where a can read, and being new to all this confusion I sure was reading ALOT. NEVER saw a post about this. I have no idea how batteries work, I just know when they don't , you replace them. Or in this case, recharge them. When I got back to work no one person knew why it happened either. But just as someone pointed out above, it could have been ALOT worse. And just maybe my stupidity could save someone from a tragedy like that.... And I’ll be wearing my dunce cap with pride! :)
 

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JMK67,

Not sure if I came off in a bad way, and if I did I apologize, but to reiterate my point. Battery safety is not something most people know or even care about. The majority of people are only exposed to alkaline or NiMh batteries. Even though your laptops, tablets, and phones use Li-Ion technology, the manufacturers have already integrated safety circuits and fail safes to prevent catastrophic failures. Actually my first gen ipod shorted when I tried charging it on a clock radio. 5 minutes in my pocket and I burned my thigh as the battery had a thermal runaway. I pulled the unit out of my pocket and it was scorching hot and my leg was red and burned. So even with protection circuits failures still happen, but the scary thing about mechanical mod failures is that they could happen inches from our face.

Mechanical mods are as basic as you get, ie unregulated power source (battery), Switch, heating element (coil). With the level of current required for things such as RC cars, high lumen output flashlights, and high current mechanical vaporizers, batteries such as Li-Ions are required. Even though the general use of them seems to be innocent, there are a lot of hidden dangers that are not known to many people.

Most people wouldn't think twice about throwing Alkaline batteries in their pocket, so no big deal throwing in a Li-Ion. But this is a mis-conception and hopefully incidents like this can be learning tools for everyone else. I am no battery expert but there are many similar stories of battery failures such as this.

Either way I'm glad you're okay and hopefully other people can learn from your experience. I honestly think a lot of people may still do the same thing you did just simply because they were not aware of the danger.
 
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Then I guess I'm just an assbrain with no common sense.... I sure didn't give it a second thought. I'm so thankful for all the Einsteins on ECF!
Not really JMK67, you are one of the "early adopters" and blazing the trails for those that follow. Just pass the wisdom you pick up, on to others
 

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JMK67,

Not sure if I came off in a bad way, and if I did I apologize, but to reiterate my point. Battery safety is not something most people know or even care about. The majority of people are only exposed to alkaline or NiMh batteries. Even though your laptops, tablets, and phones use Li-Ion technology, the manufacturers have already integrated safety circuits and fail safes to prevent catastrophic failures. Actually my first gen ipod shorted when I tried charging it on a clock radio. 5 minutes in my pocket and I burned my thigh as the battery had a thermal runaway. I pulled the unit out of my pocket and it was scorching hot and my leg was red and burned. So even with protection circuits failures still happen, but the scary thing about mechanical mod failures is that they could happen inches from our face.

Mechanical mods are as basic as you get, ie unregulated power source (battery), Switch, heating element (coil). With the level of current required for things such as RC cars, high lumen output flashlights, and high current mechanical vaporizers, batteries such as Li-Ions are required. Even though the general use of them seems to be innocent, there are a lot of hidden dangers that are not known to many people.

Most people wouldn't think twice about throwing Alkaline batteries in their pocket, so no big deal throwing in a Li-Ion. But this is a mis-conception and hopefully incidents like this can be learning tools for everyone else. I am no battery expert but there are many similar stories of battery failures such as this.

Either way I'm glad you're okay and hopefully other people can learn from your experience. I honestly think a lot of people may still do the same thing you did just simply because they were not aware of the danger.

You didn't come off in a bad way at all. Thanks for all the info. ;)
 

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There are new people joining our ranks every day.
Vaping is still rather new and a lot more complex then smoking.
I wish some of the more popular reviewers would do some safety videos. We are taught from childhood that playing with matches and lighters is bad but who taught you how to properly handle nichotine juice and lithium batteries?

It's just a matter of common sense.
Batteries are dangerous, don't burn/short/heat them.
Nicotine is really dangerous, don't drink it, leave it out for children to play with and don't buy it at concentration of 100mg/ml unless you know exactly what you're doing.
On 2nd though don't buy it even if you do.
 

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It's just a matter of common sense.
Batteries are dangerous, don't burn/short/heat them.
Nicotine is really dangerous, don't drink it, leave it out for children to play with and don't buy it at concentration of 100mg/ml unless you know exactly what you're doing.
On 2nd though don't buy it even if you do.

IMHO, 100 mg is scarry stuff

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