Dont Dry Burn Your Kanthal
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Some people wrap coils around a screwcwith fine threads so the spacing is uniform. Then unscrew the screw out if the coil and a perfectly spaced coil.
I've been using the LowPro Dripper the past month. The build that works for me requires me to wick the coil before I mount it. I don't know if I would of went for that style build if not for this thread getting me to try no dry burn coils.
Do you really think it's bad to use isopropyl alcohol to clean coils that you don't plan to dry burn? A lot of people say to use it. I'm not saying that makes it right though. I've been using it to clean my titanium and SS coils before wrapping. Even if it is petroleum based or whatever, doesn't it all evaporate in a few seconds?
I wouldn't use isopropyl. I always use grain alcohol like Everclear
Sheesh the typos. It was supposed to be clean the coils with grain alcohol. Sorry about that folks.
Yeah, dry-burning is essential with my heavily-gunking juice. And yes, pulsing it when it's first mounted gets rid of impurities -- you can very often see a little wisp of smoke rise up, and smell it; it smells like the infamous machine oil. But I've always used spaced coils, as they don't concentrate the heat so much and cause burnt wicks.
I went *back* to kanthal after trying out TC with titanium, just *because* you can dry-burn kanthal to clean it, but really can't dry-burn much if at all with titanium.
Andria
It's funny. I come from vaping only RDAs and RTAs with kanthal fused clapton and claptons that have been dry-burned and fiddled. I loved the flavor and since trying fused claptons had never gone back to regular kanthal microcoils. But now after trying Ti spaced coils with temp control, I've achieved a similar, if not better experience, and I have to say that in the two weeks that I've started using TC, I haven't vaped on my last fused clapton built in my El Cabron. It's just collecting dust in my vape stand for now.
I just found Ti underwhelming in the extreme. Very little flavor, and then after just one day, just doesn't work -- since I couldn't dry burn it, that meant making a whole new coil, every single day, from wire that costs more than twice what kanthal costs... for hardly any flavor at all. Just as soon as I went back to Kanthal... THERE's the flavor! I dry-burn/rewick every-other day, due to the high gunk factor, and my 29ga coils last months.
Andria
I use warm water....maybe a little soap between my fingers. Works great.
That sounds so weird to me. What kind of Ti wire and where did you get it from? What atty did you use? What build? What mod? I don't understand. I'm a flavor-chaser. I only built fused claptons for months because anything less tasted like air to me. There is no way I go from that to Ti builds and have awesome flavor and you're saying "very little flavor". Doesn't make sense.
I used 28ga Ti 1 from Unkamen. It was the Evic-VT mod, with my Achilles RDA, which has really excellent flavor production with my 29ga 1.7Ω kanthal coils, fired at 8.5-9 watts. With the Evic-VT, I started at 350F, went to 380F, and even tried 400F when it stopped vaping because of the gunk. Then I switched it to nickel mode and went back to 350F, but all it tasted was burnt.
The only "fancy" coil I've used is @Boden's "bowed-in" coil -- same ohms and same 7 wraps, but contact (more or less) at the bottom and spaced at the top, because of the bow. He suggested it as a way of reducing coil gunking, and it does help a little with that, even with my super-gunker juice, but the real benefit I've found is flavor production; it's subtle, but when I go from it to a straight, flat coil, I really notice a difference. Here's a pic of it, in the Achilles:
Boden's is much neater and prettier, but mine still works very well, despite its lack of aesthetic appeal.
Andria
ETA: I take it back -- I did try some twisted 28ga Ti 1, before I sold the Evic. Wasn't impressed.
So odd. I don't know much about "above-ohm" vaping anymore but maybe it has something to do with wattage and resistance? My style for months was dual fused claptons at around 0.2 ohms and 75-85 watts. Now I'm doing dual spaced titanium 24 or 26g Ti1 from lightningvapes at 0.17-0.2 ohms, 520-570 degrees, and 60-95 watts and I find a very similar, but definitely cleaner flavor experience. From what I've read the flavor differences in wire comes from the flavor that it imparts on the liquids. Stainless steel and titanium are cleaner? metals than kanthal, nichrome, and nickel and so they are touted to impart the least metallic flavor on liquids and so result in the overall better flavor.
Well, there's your answer, and it's just as I said: people vaping under 10w don't NEED TC, it's useless -- I can tell with one puff if the well in the Achilles is dry; the wicks are long and still very wet, so I don't get that nasty dry-hit, but I do taste the metal just slightly, and not so much of its real flavor. I have never vaped higher than 11w, and in the Achilles, never higher than 9.5w. The only sub-ohm coils I have *ever* built were for the TC mod; they were around .4Ω. My sweet-spot is 7 wraps 29ga around 3/32, which gives me around 1.7Ω, and fired at anything between 8.5w-9.5w, though I start it at 8w when I first re-wick.
With titanium, there was simply not much flavor at all -- and my juice is 31% flavor, which, with kanthal, smacks me in the face hollering STRAWBERRY! With titanium, it barely whimpered.
The only similarity in our styles of vaping is that both use ejuice, and both make vapor. But the amount of vapor produced from a sub-ohm coil fired at 60w would put me in a hospital getting epi shots with an oxygen mask over my face.
Andria
Abdria. I like your style. Hollering Strawberry is something I would have said a long time ago.
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