Down to the nitty gritty.

[solonguniverse]

I got started vaping about 6 days ago and I only ordered 10 ml of juice. Needless to say, I've been vaping like a crazy person and ran through all of my juice before my next shipment came in. I have a tiny bit of juice left and I watered it down to help stretch it out. I just thought afterwards this might not be the best thing for my atomizer. Will wetting my carts with this be okay until my juice comes in tomorrow?

 

[wegster]

Get some glycerin/VG/glycerol (USP, kosher if can find it), at a drugstore or at Wal-Mart and use that instead. Some use distilled water or alcohol to think it out a bit, but you can thin too far, the VG will thicken it back up...

 

[rfun6]

What would be the correct mixing of juice to glycerin? What do most of you do? 2 to 1? Just to taste? I have the glycerin usp the other day, but where would you find the vegetable kind?
Thanks

 

[Bones]

What would be the correct mixing of juice to glycerin? What do most of you do? 2 to 1? Just to taste? I have the glycerin usp the other day, but where would you find the vegetable kind?
Thanks

USP Food Grade is the Vegetable Glycerine-

Propylene Glycol is the other that most juices are made with -

Juice to glycerine depends on if you wanna add water and flavor too - Look in the DYI recipes section - Lots of measurements there -

The VG is much thicker - It needs to be thinned with the water.
You have to get a feel for it - too thick and it will get gummed up and too thin it will leak through - Just use your judgment -

I put about 4-5 drops of water in about 2.5-3ml of the VG - seems about right -

You can get the VG at most health food or drug stores - I got it at Whole Foods - $8.00 for a 16 OZ bottle -

The PG is sometimes at drug stores although some are funny about selling it from what I hear - I have not bought any yet - It can also be found at Vet/Ranch supply places for about $20.00/Gallon - They use it for some cow ailment -

 

[Mary Kay]

Veg. G.=Glycerin= Glycol acording to yvilla and she should know! All are the same, Glycerin may vary in thickness though.
You can buy V.G. or P.G. in a few of the suppliers sites here on the board.
Go to DIY e-liquid - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat this is located in Tips and tricks. There are a great many threads that give you recipes. Try Spikey's thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/10224-recipes-only.html

 

[Bones]

Veg. G.=Glycerin= Glycol according to yvilla and she should know! All are the same, Glycerin may vary in thickness though.
You can buy V.G. or P.G. in a few of the suppliers sites here on the board.
Go to DIY e-liquid - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat this is located in Tips and tricks. There are a great many threads that give you recipes. Try Spikey's thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/10224-recipes-only.html

Nope - Not all (VG) Glycerine is the same - Different Grades of Purity and sources - And Glycerine and Glycol are most definitely not the same thing!

This site has a list going from LEAST pure to %100 Pure FOOD GRADE - (C3-H5-(OH)3)
glycerindirect.com
You have to click the "Product Grades" link at the top

If you are not getting %100 Pure then you are getting impurities - If it is not thick like honey - It has been cut with something and often what that is - is not listed - It will just say %90 VG - I personally don't want to vape %10 Unknown stuff -

Here is chemical Data sheet for Propylene Glycol (C3-H8-O2)from DOW -
Propylene Glycol

They can be used the same but they are different compounds and different sources -
For a really long explanation check this post
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...012-propylene-glycol-vegetable-glycerine.html

I'm not trying to split hairs - But it is important to be specific so folks aren't vaping any old thing that looks "close enough" - These are the ones KNOWN to be correct and safe. Sending folks off to the store with "All are the same!" could lead to some major errors in purchasing

 

[Mary Kay]

You are correct I didn't say USP grade. But She and I have been in touch and I had already gone over all the food grade stuff. The previous poster did mention USP food grade. I did not say P.G. is the same as V.G. BTW.

 

[Bones]

Its understand - Not correcting you so much as not wanting someone who just tuned in to get the wrong stuff. It can get confusing.

Sorry I assumed that Glycol was referring to PG

 

[Mary Kay]

Don't sweat it. Better safe then sorry! I was repeating what I had been taught.
By the way how would one get the other grades of Glycerin in a wal-mart or drug store? I know there is a soap and candle making glycerine sold at Michaels craft store. it does not say USP on it.
I am just asking because I am curious, I thought you would have to work in some sort of trade to get it. Do you know?

 

[Bones]

Don't sweat it. Better safe then sorry! I was repeating what I had been taught.
By the way how would one get the other grades of Glycerin in a wal-mart or drug store? I know there is a soap and candle making glycerine sold at Michaels craft store. it does not say USP on it.
I am just asking because I am curious, I thought you would have to work in some sort of trade to get it. Do you know?

That Glycerine Direct site I posted above seems to have them all - And they mention the Kosher type that I have seen recommended here and it only rates at %84 pure with %7 being chlorides/salts - I was in 2 different drug stores (Walgreen's and a local Mom&Pop) that had some that said %99 Glyceine yet they did not say what that other %1 was - Did not say what the source was - nor did it say USP I'm still not really sure what that was - Plus it was $15.00 for 8oz so I put it back

When %100 Pure is so readily available - Why would you want to bother with anything else?

And just to satisfy my curiosity -
What was Glycol referring to in your phrase:
"Veg. G.=Glycerin=Glycol . . . all are the same!"

 

[dijohn76]

You can get 100% pure vegetable glycerin at netrition.com. it was 16ounces for (I believe) $6.49.