Dumb questions about 510 cartomizers

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sfetaz

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1. Is there a PCC that will hold at least 1 510 battery and 2 510 cartomizers? The cignot PCC I have has a slot for extra battery that fits 1 cartomizer, but I am looking to hold 2.

2. When you use the condom method to fill the cartomizer, do you insert the threaded side into the liquid or the mouthpiece side? If you use the mouthpiece side, do you remove the cap? I am confused because I have seen both methods and don't know which one to use. When using the threaded side I notice the cartomizer only lasts a very short amount of inhalations. I have not had time to test using the mouthpiece side but did notice it only absorbed on that side with the cap still on.

3. How many times is a good time to refill a cartomizer before you throw it out?

4. Is there a mega sized cartomizer for the 510? If so where can I get it and how many drops of e-liquid do you need for it?

5. If I hated the taste of any cigarette that doesn't have menthol, is it safe to assume I will not like any exotic flavored e-liquid like cinabon or orange creamsicle unless I mix the liquid with some kind of menthol based e-liquid?

Thanks for any help.
 

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1. there are many different PCCs out there for the 510, finding them at a good price will be hard. or finding one that in long term won't damage ur batteries is another.

2. the condom method can be used either way, just when doing it via threaded side you have to clean it up with rubbing alcohol :) i think you should search "510 condom refill" on youtube and watch some REALLY good vids.

3. I've heard people refill 20+ times. but if you learn how to replace your poly in the carto you can re-use it forever. Search my "Cartomizer Tear Down (CDT)" thread if you'd be interested in that. Some people refill 1 or 2 times and pitch, some will refill it over and over til it tastes BURNT.

4. yes there is, but you need a mega battery i think. or something like the ego, tornada, riva, etc... family.

5. No. I absolutely hate some flavors IRL that i vape non-stop. and there's some flavors i LOVE that i hate vaping. i would suggest trying 3mL samples or getting involved in the PIF Community here at ECF.

Anymore questions... ask :)
 

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1. Is there a PCC that will hold at least 1 510 battery and 2 510 cartomizers? The cignot PCC I have has a slot for extra battery that fits 1 cartomizer, but I am looking to hold 2.

2. When you use the condom method to fill the cartomizer, do you insert the threaded side into the liquid or the mouthpiece side? If you use the mouthpiece side, do you remove the cap? I am confused because I have seen both methods and don't know which one to use. When using the threaded side I notice the cartomizer only lasts a very short amount of inhalations. I have not had time to test using the mouthpiece side but did notice it only absorbed on that side with the cap still on.

3. How many times is a good time to refill a cartomizer before you throw it out?

4. Is there a mega sized cartomizer for the 510? If so where can I get it and how many drops of E-liquid do you need for it?

5. If I hated the taste of any cigarette that doesn't have menthol, is it safe to assume I will not like any exotic flavored e-liquid like cinabon or orange creamsicle unless I mix the liquid with some kind of menthol based e-liquid?

Thanks for any help.

1) I don't use PCCs and wouldn't. The Volcano PCC that I used for a week or so at the beginning ended up being worthless. I switched to using only eGo batteries (from the cheap-quality 510 batteries that needed to be recharged every 1/2 hour to 2 hours) and have been happy ever since.

2) I used the condom method for about three weeks and put the mouth end (with the white caps still on) into the condom. Then I realized that I was using the condom as a middleman, that it was more time-consuming, and it was messier, so I quit using the condoms and started directly dripping into the filler from the mouth end, after removing the white mouth cap with a large paper clip. When refilling, I drip 10 to 15 drops into the filler, depending on how empty the carto is. When filling new cartos, I drip 20 to 24 drops into the filler. I drip all drops into the same spot, while holding the carto at a 45-degree angle. This method forces the liquid to drain into the filler quicker, compared to moving the carto around and dripping into different spots into the filler. The direct drip method is the quickest method I've found to fill cartos, and there's no mess to clean up after the carto(s) are filled.

Now, I don't even keep the white mouth caps on the cartos, because I started using drip tips for mouthpieces. I don't drip into them, but they feel better in my mouth, compared to the end of the cartos. I love the stainless steel drip tip from litecigusa.net. It's expensive but worth it to me.

3) I've been rotating 15 to 20 cartos in the last seven weeks. I vape a lot, so I have to refill each carto about every hour (because I don't vape them until I get the burnt taste...just until there is less flavor and vapor). I'll refill about 12 cartos every day, and 15 to 20 cartos will last at least four weeks doing this, before they get a funky taste that doesn't go away after flushing them (using the method I've described in one of my two blogs).

4) As Shan said, the only Mega carto I know of is for the eGo. I tried a box of five of them and didn't like them that well. You have to fill them using a syringe and needle, it's messy, and I could only vape each one for about 1/2 hour before I got the burnt taste, even though the eGo Mega cartos will take 2mL of liquid. So, I quit using them and only use the Boge 510 soft cap and KR808D-1 cartos. I had to buy 510-battery to 808/901-atomizer adapters (at goodprophets.com for 99 cents each) to use the KR808D-1 cartos, but those cartos produce more flavor and more vapor than the Boge 510 cartos. I'll be using only the 808 cartos after my Boge 510 cartos have been discarded in the future.

5) I never smoked menthols..hated them, so I doubt that I can answer this. But my friend, who only smoked menthols and recently quit smoking to start vaping, didn't like the Volcano menthol liquid I let her try. She is now vaping only my mixture of RY4, Caramel, Nut Mix, and Apple liquids (all mixed together with about 10% or less of Glycerin added - the percentage is based on personal preference, and I'm still experimenting with it...currently using about 2%, and I'm happy with that, because I have more flavor using less Glycerin). If you're interested, Humco Glycerin (same as VG-vegetable glycerine) is available from Walmart on the shelf above the isopropyl alcohol products in the pharmacy section for $3 for a six-ounce bottle and helps to add vapor, dilutes the flavor, dilutes the nicotine strength, and helps to blend the liquids, so you don't want to add too much Glycerin. The reason I add Glycerin is because I order liquids with 100% PG (I like throat hits and more flavor). VG = more vapor, PG = more flavor, more throat hit

Personally, I tried some fruit and tobacco flavors from various liquid suppliers and didn't like any of them. I love the dark, smoky taste of the RY4 mixed with caramel apple and nuts.

Sorry this is so long, but I tend to include a lot of details sometimes. :)
 
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sfetaz

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Thank you so much for your help guys. I actually prefer the condom method and want to do it from the mouthpiece side. Some of the videos I have seen the person does not take off the mouthpiece cap at all, while the ones I have from Cig not (Joye 510 cartomizers. Made by Joyetech.) seems like I need to remove to 2 mouth piece caps first. Is that the case? I am pretty sure when I did it with the caps still on it was a disaster.

One other thing, I sometimes want to switch flavors or mixes in the same cartomizer, is there a way to remove all existing liquid out of this cartomizer without having to basically smoke it down to the burnt taste?
 

Twist

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Thank you so much for your help guys. I actually prefer the condom method and want to do it from the mouthpiece side. Some of the videos I have seen the person does not take off the mouthpiece cap at all, while the ones I have from Cig not (Joye 510 cartomizers. Made by Joyetech.) seems like I need to remove to 2 mouth piece caps first. Is that the case? I am pretty sure when I did it with the caps still on it was a disaster.

One other thing, I sometimes want to switch flavors or mixes in the same cartomizer, is there a way to remove all existing liquid out of this cartomizer without having to basically smoke it down to the burnt taste?

A 'reverse taryn spin' will get most of the juice out of a cartomizer, but if it's a strong flavor (menthol as an example) you'll still need to rinse it really well with hot water. Don't have a link off hand but googling 'taryn spin' should bring up some tutorial videos on Youtube. A reverse taryn spin is the same thing but with the carto upside down; you'll understand when you see it.

Bauway makes mega cartos that are supposed to be compatible with any 510 model. I'm only mentioning them because I don't recommend them though, I would stick with Joye, Boge, SLB, or Royal Smoker ceramic cartos.

My mom smoked nothing but menthol for over 30 years and loves fruity flavors.
 
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