DYIing fruit flavors, strong flavor dominates can't taste the rest

[charly1954]

I'v been DIY juice ever since I started vaping 2+ yrs ago. I have no problem DIYing 1 flavor juices as far as getting the flavor % to where its not to strong or weak. Recently I have started trying mixtures and thats a problem. Does anyone have any tips on mixing multi flavors so it taste like a mixture.

Example: I tried mixing a fruitpunch flavor with Orange (Pushup ice cream flavor), Apple pie crust, Strawberry, peach, and Blackberry. I used the same % on all and all I can taste is Blackberry.

Edited: All flavors are TFA bought from Wizard labs

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

i'm sure someone more clued up than me will come along and help ya but if it was me i would have probably made a batch of each flav and then added them in ratios to another bottle, tried them and adjusted, but making sure the stronger flav's are added at a smaller ratio, i do know that steeping lends well to lots of dif flavs.

 

[charly1954]

I guess what I'm looking for is some type of flavor chart listing fruit flavors strengths. Example, maybe a chart where flavors were rated from 1 to 10, weak to strong.

Say I wanted to mix 100ml using 4 fruit flavor with total of 20%(20ml) flavoring. If 3 where weak flavors of 3 ratings and 1 was strong at 9. I would just delute the strong flavor with PG so it would drop down to a 3 rating. All 4 would then be equal in strenght. Then add 5ml(5%) of the diluted and 5ml each of the other 3 to end up with 20ml flavor.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

I see what you mean, but then i suppose you would also have to be brand specific as dif brands are dif strengths.

Sorry i cant help anymore than i have but as said i would prob make all four flavs up, 10ml each and taste them individually to work out a list of weak to strong and then add ratios of each accordingly to another empty bottle.

its a kind of suck it and see, but you have to also bare in mind that it may change after a steep

 

[charly1954]

Ya, some DIY juices are good straight from the mixing especially fruit, while others may need to breath w/lid off, and others need to steep with closed lid for days or weeks.
For newbee's, setting with lid off is not steeping its breathing and you shouldn't do it but for a few hours. Long periods of breathing will weaken the flavor if done more than a few hours. Like opening a coke and letting it set, the longers it sets the flater it gets. Steeping is setting in dark/cool place with closed lid. Streathing is steeping with lid off.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Yes

i mainly vape fruits or sweets now, i dont steep anything anymore, it could just be all in my head but i really enjoy juice that ive just made hence i only make about 30ml of any flavour at a time now but i do microwave my vg which no doubt heats and binds the flav once shaken, i use anything from 50-95%vg depending on how i feel, i use to mix dif flav's all the time but now i much prefer to mix single flavours and if a certain two go well together i just vape a bit of one in an rda then nxt time i drip i add the other to the rda

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Streathing! <-- thats a new one youve taught me.. i bottle my juice, shake it, take the cap off the nozzle and they pretty much stay like that untill the batch is gone

 

[retired1]

Moved to DIY E-Liquid

 

[charly1954]

Moved to DIY E-Liquid

I looked at DIY E-Liquid and thought it was for only posting E-Juice Reciepts and liquid extract from tobacco. Thats whats directly below DIY E Liquid so I posted in E-Juice General. There is so many catagories its confussing, one person thinks it goes here, another there, and another over there.

 

[retired1]

The Recipes forum is for posting recipes.

E-Liquid Recipes

 

[charly1954]

Streathing! <-- thats a new one youve taught me.. i bottle my juice, shake it, take the cap off the nozzle and they pretty much stay like that untill the batch is gone

I was watching one of Rip Trippers youtube Parrellel coil videos and he was talking about breathing, steeping, and streathing. Thats where I got it from.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

I was watching one of Rip Trippers youtube Parrellel coil videos and he was talking about breathing, steeping, and streathing. Thats where I got it from.

He really is a funny guy i remember the very first video i saw of him, i dont know if it was his first vid but he had a little beard and was a little less crazy, i reckon that beard is definitely to blame.

So what are these flavours that you want to mix together? nvm i see them way up top

 

[Dixie1954]

As far as I know Blackberry is usually a strong flavoring. If you want more help it would help others to know what Brand(s) flavorings you are trying to mix with. There are some good stand alone flavoring percentage charts - but unless you share the Brand(s) I do not know which to post. Off the top of my head I'd say mixing 2 flavorings together - use half of the stand alone percentages - with 3 mix at a third and so on. Hope this helps.

 

[Capt.shay]

No way to even give a hint of percentages if we don't know the brand. One thing I can say is you are taking a fruit punch and then adding a bunch more fruits to it so they are all fighting to be the leader. I would try adding one fruit to the punch or leave the punch out and try to mix the other fruits to get a punchy kind of flavor. Otherwise you have so many flavors competing that it kind of becomes muddled.

Just my $.02

 

[baseballmom]

To mix multiple flavors, you have to find out what you want as primary and secondary/or supporting flavors instead of mix a bunch together at same percentages and expecting it to just work well....BlackBerry can be strong, not sure which brand you use, but I know tfa is and I use at small percentages...like 1% otherwise it takes over...read through the recipe section, see how people blend things, adjust per your tastes as needed, other sites have lists of %'s recc for solo or blends(e liquid recipes), research flavors to see what enhances them if anything(ex cap sweet strawberry-tfa ripe strawberry combo). Even among brands different individual flavors can have varying % strength s,(ex not all tfa flavors are good at 7%, some like BlackBerry are better lower) research helps you see what others think too and how to best use. Might be good to try a well reputed blender's mixes first and then try adapting to practice balancing.

 

[dannyv45]

Read this thread it may answer some of your questions. Look at my post which is the 4th one the first page.

Order of flavour you taste

 

[charly1954]

Orange (Pushup ice cream flavor), Apple pie crust, Strawberry, peach, and Blackberry are all TFA bought from Wizard labs

 

[baseballmom]

Tfa BlackBerry is strong, can take over a mix at mid or high percentages(so can other brands' Bb too), the tfa thread has % rec use for flavors, you might be interested in that or even for other tfa flavors, not sure just how current it is, but it should give general idea, some flavors do have broad ranges. I find it strong, so I use low %...for my tastes, it can be a bully in mixes and a tricky one to use (I made plenty of flops with it myself at 5-6%), easier to start low and work up as needed.

 

[Capt.shay]

Orange (Pushup ice cream flavor), Apple pie crust, Strawberry, peach, and Blackberry are all TFA bought from Wizard labs

And what flavor are you trying to create with these flavorings?

 

[Dixie1954]

IMHO this is still a good stand alone TFA/TPA flavoring percentage site>>> Flavor Percentage Recommendations Hope this helps.