E-Cigarecommendations

[Mach10X]

I fell off the wagon after vaping for about 6 months. I've been on analogs for the last year. My place of employment has provided a financial incentive to quit smoking and a friend of mine gave me her "mistic" ecig she doesn't use any more. I've actually been planing to switch back to vaping for a while now, but was saving up to buy an Ali'i. Sadly these are no longer being made as R&R Manufacturing closed down.


So I pose all of you a challenge, sell me on your favorite vape (hardware).
I do have so preferences however:
-I'd prefer a site that sells a kit that includes the atomizer, battery, and cartridges together so I don't have to place multiple orders. However if you have a kick-.... PV you must tell me about by all means, just let me know.


-I'm looking for a long battery life, something like a screwdriver or box mod would do nicely for me, I'm not necessarily looking for a cigarette clone.


-I'd also prefer voltage control or at least a computer chip voltage regulator so I get a consistent hit every time, VV doesn't need to be a feature but it would be nice.

 

[mooreted]

You didn't mention price so: Provari or Reo:

ProVari Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette

Reo Grand

 

[washvap]

+1

If you want a device that is high in quality then those are great. It'll cost more initially but, they will pay for themselves in time.

 

[bigtiime]

You might be interested in this. The LAVATUBE Welcome back!

 

[player30]

GLV-2 Mini 3.7-Volt Electronic Cigarette [GLV-2-MINI] - $105.00 : Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

Vape-O-Matic Liquinator 3mL

801 Fusion Cartomizer LR - IkenVape Store

 

[Renrav]

You didn't mention price so: Provari or Reo:

ProVari Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette

Reo Grand

The Reo is great for ease of use and durability. I love my Reo mini and its the only mod I use. I must say though, that it does not have any voltage regulator. It's 100% mechanical, which is great for reliability, but the voltage does drop off as the battery loses power. That being said though, I do highly recommend it. I leave the house with an extra 3mL bottle and a battery and I know I'm good for the day. With a grand I probably wouldn't even need that.

 

[whitepony]

i say reo as well

 

[D4rk50ul]

I just went through the buying process and ended up ordering the REO Grand as well. I also had similar specs I was looking for and had done a lot of research last time I bought a mod. I wanted a mod that was no fuss (so I'd use it) that put out good vapor every time and was built to last. I also didn't want to carry around another pocketful of stuff every day just to keep me going until I got home. Here is the mods I looked at and why I chose the Grand.

ProVari - Last time I was buying a mod there wasn't much available in VV. This looks like a nice device but with features also comes things that can fail. It's not a knock to this particular product it is just the logic that more parts means it can break easier. I almost bought this though as they are a very reputable company.

Precise - Man let me tell you these things are beautiful. They will probably last a life time and then some and look great doing it. I didn't get this because I wanted a totally no fuss device and this is just a really pretty / well made version of what I already use. I was torn between this and the Grand.

GLV2 - It's great i've seen plenty of reviews, but again its voltage regulated to 5v and not VV. It's a solid device and 5v is the sweet spot in the past but I had it in my mind I was either going full VV or mechanical.

Buzz Pro - It's just a bit too big for me I think. I want to throw these things in my pocket and not have my pants fall off Now this isn't really the greatest reason to pass up a great mod but like I said I had a very specific set of specs I was looking for.

Grand - It's mechanical but not VV so I did lose out on that aspect. What I realized before and I guess it took me looking at them all to remember is that VV is nice, but you can just change the resistance your atty is to achieve similar results. It may take you some experimenting to get that perfect combination of atty and juice but its doable. I opt'd for this in conjunction with some high end 1.5ohm atty's to get a reliable, no mess, no clutter device that performs. It also solved the problem of having a pocket full of stuff and has a reliable feed system which is a big plus.

Keep in mind I haven't even received this yet its just my thoughts as I was shopping. I also want to add that you cannot get the batteries and charger from the site, you will have to order from elsewhere.

 

[VapeApe]

Welcome back, I just returned myself and asked a very similar question. Good luck with the many options available! Just ordered a egoT set to play with while I explore all the other options like VV.

 

[Mach10X]

Thanks so much for the replies, The Precision looks to be the best so far, however I do want a Reo Grand, just going to wait for them to come out with a voltage regulated one
Feel free to add to this thread or voice your opinions on what's already been posted.

 

[pAth77]

FYI, Evolv is in the process of releasing the Kick, which is a drop-in module that will essentially turn your PV into a variable wattage device. They've just done their third wave of beta testing and are hoping to have them out by the end of the month. It will be sold by a handful of ECF vendors, but SuperT and Nhaler are the only ones that I can think of off the top of my head. It's been tested on a variety of 18xxx tube mods, and there is supposedly a way to use them on other devices (e.g. Reos) as well. So whether you go for a Precise, a Reo, or any other mod that is not VV or regulated....you will soon have a way to make it VW. Just some food for thought.

 

[Mach10X]

Thanks pAth77, I saw the video on the Precision site. I'd prefer microchip voltage regulated...I always figured the VV mods were to allow you to adjust the resistance as the voltage drops to keep the same current
V=IR Voltage =Current * Resistance
It's the current that effects the vapor production and heat.
By my theory, since the voltage drops as the battery drains, the "variable voltage" is simply an adjustable resistor.
So if the resistance stays the same, half the voltage = half the current. If you drop the resistance by half as well then you compensate and get a similar current (ie a strong hit).

That being said, the Kick is not accessible from the outside of the unit you'd have to open it up to adjust it. That would be fine if the voltage was regulated / stabilized

The kick states it's "variable wattage", however it makes more sense to say it's variable resistance, since wattage is determined by Voltage x Current, and the only way to change voltage or current without introducing another power source is to alter the resistance.

 

[pAth77]

My understanding of VV/Vreg and VW is a bit different so someone please correct me if I am wrong. It is not the current but rather the power (wattage) that determines the "heat." While current is a part of the formula, by definition it is the flow of the charge, and the way I understand it...it's the rate at which a battery is discharged. Both VV and Vreg mods utilize a booster that increases the output of a 3.7V battery. The difference with VV and Vreg is that Vreg is regulated to a specific voltage (i.e. 5V) whereas VV allows you to adjust the voltage within a specific range (i.e. 3.0V to 6.0V). Fresh of the charger, batteries will output somewhere around 4.1-4.2V and the output will diminish as it is discharged. VV/Vreg will allow you to maintain a constant voltage output, but it will not take into consideration the fluctuations in resistance that occur in an atty/carto. That is where the concept of VW appeals to many. VW takes into consideration both the decreasing battery voltage and the changes in atty/carto resistance in order to produce a consistent power output. I cannot say whether there is a huge difference between VV and VW in real life application so I'll let those that have used both chime in.

With the Kick, you cannot change the setting on the fly, but IMO that doesn't really matter since those that get it will already have an idea of the wattage they want. I don't think that you can really consider the Kick as "variable resistance" since it does not alter resistance. It measures the resistance of the atty/carto and alters the voltage to produce a specific wattage (W=V²/R).

Again, I'm no expert and this is just my understanding based off of what I have learned here on ECF. Either way, there are a lot of options for you out there, and with all of the advancements that have been made in ecig technology, I'm sure that you'll be happy with whatever you choose.

 

[Mach10X]

Actually we're both right
Using W=V*I and V=IR translates to I=V/R
replace the I from W=V*I with V/R you get W=V^2/R
That being said, you can boot wattage by reducing resistance.... however doubling the voltage quadruples the wattage. Halving the resistance doubles the wattage.

Source: 4 years of college physics (been out of practive 5 years now).

 

[Fitdiculous]

sorry to hear you fell off the wagon... I've been vaping for the past year and a half and no intentions of going back, but I've gotten bored of what I have. Was using the eGo and variations for a while, then got a VV Ali'i and it's still running strong but a bit bulky... got the mini reo and it's been a tank too but it doesn't work with the DCT (dual carto tanks).

Looking to get a simple Box Mod, but would love voltage indicator and voltage adjustment, and at biggest size 3AA box. Any suggestions recommendations? (Sorry to jack your thread).

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Here you go, I've been using one of these without the indicator for a few months, good unit.

Variable Volt Box Mod w/ Voltage Indicator