E-Cigarette Forum Discussion Thread

[mgordon1100]

Nite, fonedude. I'll be heading to bed as soon as my program is over.

 

[ShannonA]

Nitey nite

 

[phonedude]

you know what I do with cheese?








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[revolver]

OMG!

You trolls HAVE TAKEN OVER THE 'EMPIRE' without MY PERMISSION... !?

WHO "gave the command"?

I go away for a few days and now WE have a much bigger territory to our lands?

What's wrong with you?

This means WE will have to do double-shifts...! No more sleeping...!

You ARE insane...!

On a more serious note...

Congratulations... !!!

And while we settle down we should also consider our next 'target'... ! And expand our domains further...!



"The World is Yours"

 

[ShannonA]

Soooo.... yeah. I have held my piece on a couple threads and politely had my say or hinted at it on couple more

 

[ShannonA]

BTW Clay your comment on the CT thread while I feel it might fall on deaf ears was very well put.

 

[Katmandu]

I hate when real life interferes with my forum time!

Sorry guys, had to drop off the radar for a while - will elaborate later if anybody wants or cares to know.

But I'll be back tonite both here and there - with a vengeance - I need some laughs.

Gary - love, love, love your avi! I got some Velveeta and garlic bread - wanna share?

Shannon - you are so awesome!

Mel, welcome! Can't wait to get to know ya a little better - you sound like a hoot!

Randy - do you know if anybody asked Fred about you yet?

 

[revolver]

Im sorry I have not been very active with this project, but my energy was sent to you... Thing is I have been using most of my forum-oriented time (and then some...) in my country-based forum because of our freaking ban... It is more of the same fight, though.

I am following your great great achievements as much as I can, though.

Yep... You certainly do rock !

 

[RichardLOZ]

Wow you guys can sure yap. I actually bother to go into the office for a day to work and come home to 33 pages of catching up to do, and I have yet to hit any other threads on the forums.

Hi Mel from Australia and welcome to ECF. Great bunch over here as I think you have already discovered, and we welcome pretty much everybody with open arms.

Richard

 

[ShannonA]

I don't know what you're talking abour Richard we're a very quiet bunch

 

[ClayK]

BTW Clay your comment on the CT thread while I feel it might fall on deaf ears was very well put.

I'm having a hard time understanding why it seems ok to discriminate or exclude people from any discussion, regardless of what ended up working for them. If they tried whatever method and have experience with it, that should be good enough. I've walked my time in different shoes. I've earned my stripes. When someone else has the same experiences or most of the same experiences as my own, but the only difference is they have an older registration date, I challenge that as discriminatory and prejudicial. A support group is only as supportive as the least supportive person in that group. If there are people that will continue to exclude or berate others in the group, the group breaks down. Good groups (and good group leaders) know this and address it immediately. I'm not saying the least supportive person shouldn't have their say, they should. What I am saying is the other members need to allow that person to express themselves and then attempt to find the common ground so everyone can identify and move forward. Definitely the continuation of elitism or exclusion should not be allowed to continue, if in fact that is what it is.

Part of the beauty and the effectiveness of any support group is the differing points of views and multitude of experiences. If only a couple people shared or belonged to a group, it's scope would be pretty myopic compared to another that had a large variety of experiences and views. As humans, especially intelligent adults, we all learn from the experiences of others as well as our own. Hieuristic learning is the most beneficial in the learning process as well as the healing/sharing process. We aren't children anymore and we don't need to mimic or play cliques or play "mine, mine, MINE!".

 

[ShannonA]

I'm having a hard time understanding why it seems ok to discriminate or exclude people from any discussion, regardless of what ended up working for them. If they tried whatever method and have experience with it, that should be good enough. I've walked my time in different shoes. I've earned my stripes. When someone else has the same experiences or most of the same experiences as my own, but the only difference is they have an older registration date, I challenge that as discriminatory and prejudicial. A support group is only as supportive as the least supportive person in that group. If there are people that will continue to exclude or berate others in the group, the group breaks down. Good groups (and good group leaders) know this and address it immediately. I'm not saying the least supportive person shouldn't have their say, they should. What I am saying is the other members need to allow that person to express themselves and then attempt to find the common ground so everyone can identify and move forward. Definitely the continuation of elitism or exclusion should not be allowed to continue, if in fact that is what it is.

Part of the beauty and the effectiveness of any support group is the differing points of views and multitude of experiences. If only a couple people shared or belonged to a group, it's scope would be pretty myopic compared to another that had a large variety of experiences and views. As humans, especially intelligent adults, we all learn from the experiences of others as well as our own. Hieuristic learning is the most beneficial in the learning process as well as the healing/sharing process. We aren't children anymore and we don't need to mimic or play cliques or play "mine, mine, MINE!".

I agree with you. I also have an objection about the whole offering advice comment...that thread was not actually asking for advice so much as stating the OPs point of view...not the same thing.

 

[mgordon1100]

I don't care what that thread is really about. Every forum is everybody's forum. Once certain people get that through their heads, things will be better. That is, as long as they can stop faulting certain people for their misery.

 

[mgordon1100]

I can't do this guy anymore. He's no more supportive of someone wanting to quit cigarettes, as he probably is of Hitler killing all those Jews.

 

[Cil]

Hello, just found this thread, I haven't the stamina to read all of this hope you're all well.

 

[mgordon1100]

I haven't the stamina to stay at that other place. They are intentionally making things hard, and they are getting away with it. It was the plan, I'm convinced.

 

[Linden]

I have been tossing around the idea of joining the QSMB. I think some of the people there are great and I am so impressed with the way many of them have slowly opened their belief system about quitting to include other methods.
That being said, I am honestly afraid that if i were to go there and say the wrong thing and be attacked for it (or God forbid post something in the wrong section!) that there would be alot of unnecessary drama and anger in my life. For Pete's sakes, just reading it brings my blood pressure up!
I am eternally thankful for the support that I receive here on this forum. I think that those of you that have offered your advice and wisdom there are AWESOME because you are doing LIFE SAVING work. Meanwhile, I will continue to offer support HERE to you guys and to all new members looking to quit through e-cigs.

 

[phonedude]

Doing good Cil. You mean you don't want to read these hundreds of pages. Don't blame you. We probably have varying opinions of how its going but I think overall well.

 

[Trbobitch]

I don't get it... It's ok to say this:

Chantix here! Four weeks of chantix and eight months of determination!! Loser or Whimp?? Naw... I kicked Arsh!!!

Wild turkey could help, and then you wouldn't feel so cold

You make me laugh, Kiwi!! Your funny!!

But not what John said? Or Kristin? Because:

I believe you are crossing the grounds here. If somebody goes into the cold turkey section, and wants to quit cold turkey, why would you...who have NOT succeeded in cold turkey, even consider giving advice? Especially when you KNOW we will get upset. Why are you baiting us. I am trying to be nice, but you guys hover and hover and breathe down our necks. your very intrusive. you keep it subtle, but we are not stupid.

Ummmmm...

 

[Trbobitch]

And with that said, I DO think it's a good idea if we stay out of the other "method" sections. We have our own section there and they know who we are, any post we make in the other sections will be viewed as an attempt to sway people to ecigs, no matter what the poster's intentions are. Keep it to the main board, socializing and the ecig section IMO.