E cigarette tax? .... you chris christie

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RobinBanks

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I don't understand how they think it will raise $35 million in revenue.
vaping is not particularly popular here and I think there's enough brick and mortars that I could count them on one hand. There are a few juice manufacturers here though.

This honestly surprises me from him, and disappoints me. At this point it doesn't effect me, though, because I've never even spent a dime on vape stuff in my own state.

Seems there are a few assmbly members on our side though. Shockingly, a democrat. "The opponents of the tax – five in all — had a sympathetic ear in the committee’s chairman, Assemblyman Gary Schaer, a smoker for more than 40 years.

“You’ll forgive me as I hold my own e-cig in my hand,” Schaer (D-Passaic) said. ‘I will admit to you that after having gone through every anti-smoking possibility… it’s something which I will agree with you has given me some small modicum of help and, more importantly, it’s given my wife and kids some modicum of health.”
 

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I usually don't put much stock in contacting legislators from outside my state, because I really don't think they care, for the most part, about opinions of people who can't vote for them.

But Christie is a little different. I will drop him a line to advise that his appetite for exorbitant taxes will cost him at least one vote should he find himself in a presidential primary here in Florida.

Maybe I should use some alternative phrasing, and leave "appetite" out of it, though.
 

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Christie plans to tax e-cigarettes and e-liquid at the same $2.70 per pack rate that cigarettes have, with legislators apparently worrying that taxing e-cigarettes less than traditional tobacco would be “sending a message out there that they’re somehow safer,” said Assemblyman Dan Benson.

Wow! Just, wow. Yea Dan, we wouldn't want anyone to get that impression. Talked to your doctor lately? Where's Suzanne Powter when you need her? Stop the insanity...

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Definitely, scary. I hope NY doesn't follow NJ's lead if this passes. Seems like Governor Cuomo isn't big on raising taxes right now as he's up for re-election next year, but I could see it happening in the future.
The thing is, if the government can raise taxes on something that YOU don't do, then that means YOU save money. If the taxes are paid by a small legally discriminated against/abused minority then that is even better. Demonized smokers deserve to be punished in the eyes of too many. "It's for the children" after all, not more easy money to the government coffers. Money equals power. I'm sure politicians are looking at Colorado. "150 million in tax revenues? Let's take a good look at legalization! The extra tax revenue is for the children!"
Vote the bastiches out!
 

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It's not about health. It's not about "similar products". It's not about "the children" It's about the MONEY.
NJ spending makes drunken sailors look good.

Raising the gas tax is a "no go" with prices where they are, toll roads (too many drivers are forced to use them, and they have been tripled too recently), the sales tax is one of the highest in the country, the income tax is bucking for number one (Calif and NY keep us from the record), property taxes are at a record high & "we're #1, we're #1....:facepalm:

Where can we raise some money where it affects the least number of voters, e-cigs!!!
How it affects the people involved is not even a consideration.
 
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My wife and I are hard-liners when it comes to government suppression and oppresive taxation of what we regard as the most beneficial public health development so far in this century. We boycott products and services from those jurisdictions. This includes Chicago and our hometown, Evanston, IL. (Needless to say, we're planning on moving out of state when my wife decides to retire — my occupation is highly mobile. Until then, we're temporarily stuck here.)

Our strong belief is that any government which has legislated measures that ensure needless illness and premature deaths of its citizens — for whatever reason — is an evil government. And we will not do business within such jurisdictions. Is boycotting an effective strategy in terms of forcing change? No. But — for us — it is the morally and ethically right thing to do. (Your mileage may vary, and probably does.)

Here's what's sad. When New Jersey banned vaping in public places, we took a look at what products and services we had obtained over the previous year that could conceivably have come from New Jersey. We expected we'd have to do without some things and scramble to find substitutes for others. We found nothing.

I have a feeling that, if trends continue, New Jersey will turn into a vast, depopulated wasteland, rigidly controlled by the likes of Chris Christie and Tony Soprano.
 
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