E cigarette tax? .... you chris christie
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In washington I'm pretty sure they just passed a 25% tax on the fluids that contain nicotine. Funny, they tax cigarettes with the reasoning they are bad for you and create health problems the government will most likely have to incur costs on, so what's the reasoning behind this?
I wonder...
Who does the UK government talk to when it come to e-cigs? Is it vapers? Is it companies that supply eGos and clearos? Is it Giraffes that have red, white and blue stripes?
No - it's the companies who sell their pathetic ludicrously expensive plastic sticks that claim to do "40" cigarettes from 0.8ml eliquid in a cartomizer.
If 0.8ml is 40 cigarettes, then a 30ml bottle is 1,500 cigarettes. That's £279 in tax just waiting to be collected.
Bring it on.
Who does the UK government talk to when it come to e-cigs? Is it vapers? Is it companies that supply eGos and clearos? Is it Giraffes that have red, white and blue stripes?
No - it's the companies who sell their pathetic ludicrously expensive plastic sticks that claim to do "40" cigarettes from 0.8ml eliquid in a cartomizer.
If 0.8ml is 40 cigarettes, then a 30ml bottle is 1,500 cigarettes. That's £279 in tax just waiting to be collected.
Bring it on.
I know. And a check of our prescriptions revealed that, by odd chance, none of them came from a New Jersey pharmaceutical company. Go figger. I would have thought that at least one was made by GlaxoSmithKline or someone like that, but no.
Saw this bumper sticker awhile back, as a NJ resident I would hate this. I mean really, i wouldnt be surprised if they taxed me every time I crap. Can't stand it. God forbid people are trying to better themselves by vaping and helping there overall health, apparently thats just wrong. Ridiculous.
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Yea, but would he tax a new non-pharmaceutical miracle diet formula that promised to keep him from being the walking heart attack he is.
Christie getting elected is proof to me of the dumbing down of society. Our kids and younger generations have been taught that indiscriminateness is a moral imperative, that its better to have no opinion at all than it is to 'h8 on" or judge someone else.
Complete and utter b.s IMO.That judgement is there for a reason and choosing not to use it just makes us dumber as a country and as individuals.
How can you trust someone to govern an entire state when they cant even govern their own body enough to keep their weight in check? Especially someone who earns enough money to hire personal trainers and dieticians and who can afford the technology that makes it that much easier to lose weight?
"Progressives" like him on both sides are the problem IMO. Theres nothing progressive about them.Regressive, degenerate, entitled and completely selfish is more like it.
Complete and utter b.s IMO.That judgement is there for a reason and choosing not to use it just makes us dumber as a country and as individuals.
How can you trust someone to govern an entire state when they cant even govern their own body enough to keep their weight in check? Especially someone who earns enough money to hire personal trainers and dieticians and who can afford the technology that makes it that much easier to lose weight?
"Progressives" like him on both sides are the problem IMO. Theres nothing progressive about them.Regressive, degenerate, entitled and completely selfish is more like it.
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But Christie is a little different. I will drop him a line to advise that his appetite for exorbitant taxes will cost him at least one vote should he find himself in a presidential primary here in Florida.
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The safety angle is a mere ruse. It satisfies the antz out there. Their anti-smoking education they've been pumping out for decades set the stage, and with vaping resembling smoking aesthetically... It's pretty hard to fight that fight.
This allows politicians to tax us. Then for those that stick with cigarettes, they can tax big pharma and the medical industry (and thanks to obamacare, that is another way they can justify taxing us even more to fund healthcare).
By taxing ecigs the same as paper tube cigs, they get to make sure they can recoup some of their losses, and remove some of the incentive to switch to vaping. This was never actually about safety, and has always been about how to reach deeper into our wallets.
This allows politicians to tax us. Then for those that stick with cigarettes, they can tax big pharma and the medical industry (and thanks to obamacare, that is another way they can justify taxing us even more to fund healthcare).
By taxing ecigs the same as paper tube cigs, they get to make sure they can recoup some of their losses, and remove some of the incentive to switch to vaping. This was never actually about safety, and has always been about how to reach deeper into our wallets.
This is a little long, but worth it...Calvin Cooledge on progressives...
About the Declaration there is a finality that is exceedingly restful.
It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning cannot be applied to this great charter.
If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions.
If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people.
Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers.
Tax's are coming for all Ecig products there getting popular and the Government has to cash in! Once the tax's are levied we will get less resistance from Government to Ban them because we all know it's about the MONEY!
It has ALWAYS been about the money! The revenue loss from all of us that have stopped smoking by vaping has been extreme! We all know they are feeling it and it becomes bigger on a daily basis. Until they can recoup the lost revenue, we will all pay the price. When will they realize that there was a little incident in The Boston Harbor over tea taxes and it could be lived again. I for one an sick and tired of politicians standing there with their hands out for my hard earned wages on a regular basis. If it was anyone else, it would be called extortion and able to be prosecuted under the Rico Act! Being it is Government, it's OK then.
I normally resist commenting on his weight problem (we all have our stuff, ya know?) but this is one context where the hypocrisy is just out of control. He knows more than anyone about having a health issue caused by a lifestyle which is demonized and bullied by the rest of society... and yet he goes after people who are quitting smoking.
Before eCigs came along and gave the bullies another way to push smokers around, the tide was turning on the high BMI folks. New York was going after soda pop, until eCigs became a better target.
Obese people who are bullying vapers and smokers will get their comeuppance - all the health arguments are turning on them. When it hits them full force I hope they don't look to me to defend their lifestyle. A bacon and ice cream tax wouldn't bother me in the least, nor will it bother me to see insurance rates for the obese raised to smoker rates.
I agree 100%. One of the things that gets me about Christie, is that he is somehow perceived as a new model for a politician (and promotes himself as such) when he is nothing more than the old style ward heeler that can be found in both parties (Especially now, with the gerrymandered districts.); the elder Daley in Chicago, Boss Tweed in NY, or closer to my home, James Pendergast in KC. Maybe it's just new in that he's a Republican doing it when it was primarily Democrats who invented it.
Yeah no matter who is in power, it's the power that corrupts.
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