E-Cigarettes Are For Drug Addicts

[Superstargoddess]

BigJimW for Prez!
Now Canada has something else to apologize for besides Bryan Adams and Celine Dion.

Well come to think of it Canada gave us RUSH, so we're cool.....

Someone should tell this knucklehead that if he switches to e-cigs he may live longer and have more time to have sex with his sister....

Hey, I used to like Bryan Adams!

 

[Heed]

Oh HELL no! I am the furthest thing from a person who uses drugs, I do not like drugs.

Thanks for a good laugh. Reading that on this board was just hilarious.

E-cigs are for drug addicts -- just like cigarettes, patches, gum, inhalers, etc. They all deliver a drug to the user -- the only difference is the method they use.

Unless you're on 0 nic e-liquid, of course. Then you likely were a drug user who has kicked the habit.

This board is full of drug users -- and I'd wager a large percentage like their drug.

 

[Vaponator]

Oh HELL no! I am the furthest thing from a person who uses drugs, I do not like drugs.

I hate to burst your bubble, and I mean no offense goddess but nictotine is a drug. If you are using nicotine you are using drugs, albeit LEGAL drugs just like alcohol.

If your addicted to Nicotine yes thats right, you are a drug addict.

Addiction treatment centers treat ALL addictions, ......., alcohol, heroine, gambling the same. Addiction is addiction is addiction and the body reacts and craves it from the same part of the brain no matter what drug it is.

I don't like the label of drug addict anymore than the rest of you but technically speaking... We are.


On a on topic response. That guy truely is a ignorant hick!

That also means he is a drug addict.

This board is full of drug users -- and I'd wager a large percentage like their drug.

That I do.

 

[MissVapor]

Video response posted. LOL Here it is

YouTube - Video response to that toothless hick from Canada trashing e-cigs

OMG Jim, you crack me up

 

[Superstargoddess]

I hate to burst your bubble, and I mean no offense goddess but nictotine is a drug. If you are using nicotine you are using drugs, albeit LEGAL drugs just like alcohol.

If your addicted to Nicotine yes thats right, you are a drug addict.

Addiction treatment centers treat ALL addictions, ......., alcohol, heroine, gambling the same. Addiction is addiction is addiction and the body reacts and craves it from the same part of the brain no matter what drug it is.

I don't like the label of drug addict anymore than the rest of you but technically speaking... We are.


On a on topic response. That guy truely is a ignorant hick!

That also means he is a drug addict.




That I do.

Right, I am aware of that. However, I believe that the Canadian guy was referring to illegal drugs. Why would he say that they are for drug addicts since he smokes cigarettes himself? Does he say that analogs are for drug addicts?

Anyway, y'all know what I meant.

Edit: I guess that what I am saying is that I find it offensive for someone to compare vaping to being a drug addict. We all know what we think of when we imagine a drug addict. Does that mean that just because my doctor has me take a Schedule II medication for my mental issues that I am a "drug addict"? Just very offensive to me, someone who smokes analogs, vapes, drinks caffeine, or takes medication (properly) from a doctor- being compared to a typical drug addict.

 

[BC Connection]

This guy is a n00b. Uninformed, zero-research trash talking n00b.

 

[Vaponator]

Right, I am aware of that. However, I believe that the Canadian guy was referring to illegal drugs. Why would he say that they are for drug addicts since he smokes cigarettes himself? Does he say that analogs are for drug addicts?

Anyway, y'all know what I meant.

Edit: I guess that what I am saying is that I find it offensive for someone to compare vaping to being a drug addict. We all know what we think of when we imagine a drug addict. Does that mean that just because my doctor has me take a Schedule II medication for my mental issues that I am a "drug addict"? Just very offensive to me, someone who smokes analogs, vapes, drinks caffeine, or takes medication (properly) from a doctor- being compared to a typical drug addict.

You are correct and thats what makes him ignorant to think a drug addict is someone that uses illegal drugs.

Taking prescribed drugs from a doctor does not make you a addict. Becoming physically dependant on them is another thing, although some people are dependant on medications for other reason too. ie diabetes,depression etc..

I am strictly speaking of drug that have no purpose other that to elevate mood or alter it. Caffiene, nicotine, alchohol, or illegals.

 

[Superstargoddess]

You are correct and thats what makes him ignorant to think a drug addict is someone that uses illegal drugs.

Taking prescribed drugs from a doctor does not make you a addict. Becoming physically dependant on them is another thing, although some people are dependant on medications for other reason too. ie diabetes,depression etc..

I am strictly speaking of drug that have no purpose other that to elevate mood or alter it. Caffiene, nicotine, alchohol, or illegals.

I don't even think that caffeine or nicotine can really even be placed into that category, at least for some people. I drink so much caffeine that I don't even notice anything from it anymore, been drinking soda since I was a kid. And I don't increase my intake of it just to elevate my mood. Heck, if caffeine and nicotine elevated my mood, I wouldn't need this medication!

I feel the same way about the nicotine since after reading some stories here, I have started to feel that I wasn't addicted to nicotine in analogs, but to the hand movement, throat hit, being bored and needing something to do factor of smoking. I've had no nicotine "withdrawl" of any kind from switching to vaping, though I have read that a lot of people have.

No comments about the alcohol, I quit the stuff over five years ago, never want to go back to that for any reason.

Basically, what I am trying to say, is that not all people drink soda or smoke cigarettes to elevate their mood or to alter it. That they don't all feel any sort of effect from it. Not trying to argue with you or anything, just saying what I think on the subject. With something like illegals and alcohol (big amounts of alcohol depending on the person) it's obvious that people are trying to alter their moods, and those types of things are very effective at doing so. But I wouldn't say that someone who drinks a few beers a day, doesn't even get a buzz, and is not even trying to get a buzz- is addicted to a drug. I guess that it's all about the context.

 

[Vaponator]

Ive been through alcohol treatment.

Most addictive and hardest to quit drug accodring to the treatment center.. Heroine. 2nd most addictive and hardest to quit? Yup Nicotine.


They have a list in a linear order from left to right. Left being easiest right being hardest.

Alcohol was somewhere in the middle.

 

[Heed]

Why would he say that they are for drug addicts since he smokes cigarettes himself? Does he say that analogs are for drug addicts?

Likely because as a cigarette smoker he doesn't see himself as a drug addict -- much like you don't see yourself, a vaper, as a drug addict. Self effacement.

We all know what we think of when we imagine a drug addict.

Hmm, an apeal to popularity. We just "all know" what real drug addicts are like -- and they certainly aren't like us. Oh, no. They're smelly, live in filth and worthy of contempt. The fact is that there's drug addicts all around you and they act and look a myriad of different ways.

Does that mean that just because my doctor has me take a Schedule II medication for my mental issues that I am a "drug addict"?

Don't confuse a drug's classification with being an addict. Just because a drug is restricted doesn't necessarily mean it's addictive. And vice versa.

Also, people become addicted to drugs prescribed by their doctors quite frequently. So, if you do become dependant upon it, yes, you would be an addict. And if you don't become dependant upon it, then no.

Just very offensive to me, someone who smokes analogs, vapes, drinks caffeine, or takes medication (properly) from a doctor- being compared to a typical drug addict.

Ah yes, as long as we're dependant on the "allowed" drugs we're not really addicts. We're not those "typical addicts" -- we're better somehow. We get our drugs legally, so we're not really addicts in the "typical" sense.

As for the video, yeah, the guy is failing to see the irony of his position -- much like yourself.

 

[souporvapor]

Vaponator
A little more research on nicotine and you could find that it is being studied for a variety of applications.
Yes - it alters mood - by creating/assisting in the production of dopamine. It is also showing possibilities in treatment of ADD/ADDH, Alzheimers - seems to be showing promise with memory issues - and if I remember correctly the 's' word I cannot spell. Schizophrenia I believe.

so - as a 'drug' nicotine IMO is doing what the high power meds my Dr. attempted to put me on years ago - cannot.
Anxiety/depression - actually I'm just not boring enough for the rest of society.
The prescription- wow - take one when you wake up and 1 every 4-6 hrs for anxiety.... heck 1 pill when I wake up and I'm back to sleep and in a fog for 36 hours....
Don't think so!

Please pass my ScrewDriver!

 

[Mr_Slippery]

I think we all know what Ms Goddess was talking about, so no need to nitpick.

And besides, our friend from the great white north made the distinction by comparing vapers to ...... addicts, or crack addicts, whatever

There are drugs and there are 'hard' drugs.

Societal norms suggest a difference btw nicotine addiction and ....... addiction, for instance.

That's just the way it is, sorry it doesn't fit in you guys little 'technical' box.

 

[rfun6]

Get him Big Jim!! Give him what for !!!

 

[catlvr]

Right on BigJim!! Put that uneducated, inbred idiot in his place!!! Although I must say I believe he lost his teeth due to an apparent .... habit.

 

[derick]

I wonder what company ripped this guy off...

 

[treble]

lol @ big jim.....i always knew you were a tube sucker

 

[Vapinginmyboots]

Video response posted. LOL Here it is

YouTube - Video response to that toothless hick from Canada trashing e-cigs

LOL Good job Big Jim! You put this f-tard in his place, big time! I cant believe the spit this guy is spewing, as at the same times hes spewing it, that lump in the middle of his lungs continues to grow probably as each carcinogin feeds it. The guy should put the freeking thing out and pick up an e-cig already! Bet hes never tried one in his potentially pathetic life!

 

[span]

I believe he deleted the video response... Go JIM!
Although honestly, the only video response that guys deserves is a full 10 minutes of nothing but the middle finger...

 

[Blooper]

Maintain focus people. One Canadian inbred does not deserve this much attention. The amount of ignorance in the FDA and their stupidity is what needs to be handled (although I'm sure their motives go beyond simple ignorance). And remember the best thing you can hope to accomplish in an argument with an idiot is that you just won an argument with an idiot.

 

[BlueSun]

I exclusively vape 0 nic. Does that mean I'm pretending to be a drug user?