E-Cigarettes Are For Drug Addicts

[TommyGunBC]

Hey come on now people I'am Canadian and a vaper and I'm all good
drop the Canadian part, it has nothing to do with Canada . This idiot is just that a IDIOT!! and probably inbred

 

[Scottofalltrades]

That makes me so angry! That hypocrite sits there and calls us drug addicts! I've known drug addicts. I had a friend when I was 14 that died of an overdose. We are trying to prevent all the nasty additives and other horrible chemicals to be spread around to the public and ourselves. I take great offense to the drug addict comment. I feel that after a hard days work I deserve to have something that calms the nerves. And i'll be damned if I will ever pick up another pack of Marlboros. I feel better now than I ever did when I was addicted to the real drug of america (cigarettes)! BIG tobacco IS THE REAL GRIM REAPER!

 

[SogladIquit]

well, well, wellllll.... ain't THAT callin' the kettle black. I for one never wanted to quit the real deal. Had to make a break while helping care for my mother in hospital for 2 months with cancer, then for weeks in rehab post hospital. Both institutions and their properties were smoking free. Indoors/outdoors. There were rent-a-cops everywhere who gave a rat's patutie if your car was stolen, just hired to make sure nobody smoked in the lots. This is not a joke, folks.

 

[Superstargoddess]

Likely because as a cigarette smoker he doesn't see himself as a drug addict -- much like you don't see yourself, a vaper, as a drug addict. Self effacement.


Hmm, an apeal to popularity. We just "all know" what real drug addicts are like -- and they certainly aren't like us. Oh, no. They're smelly, live in filth and worthy of contempt. The fact is that there's drug addicts all around you and they act and look a myriad of different ways.


Don't confuse a drug's classification with being an addict. Just because a drug is restricted doesn't necessarily mean it's addictive. And vice versa.

Also, people become addicted to drugs prescribed by their doctors quite frequently. So, if you do become dependant upon it, yes, you would be an addict. And if you don't become dependant upon it, then no.


Ah yes, as long as we're dependant on the "allowed" drugs we're not really addicts. We're not those "typical addicts" -- we're better somehow. We get our drugs legally, so we're not really addicts in the "typical" sense.

As for the video, yeah, the guy is failing to see the irony of his position -- much like yourself.

Well well, aren't you sassy? Why are you so defensive on this type of thing? Yes, I have known drug addicts. Two of them in my close family have died of OD's. Do I consider us to be like them? Hell no.

 

[Thulium]

Well well, aren't you sassy? Why are you so defensive on this type of thing? Yes, I have known drug addicts. Two of them in my close family have died of OD's. Do I consider us to be like them? Hell no.

Saying that e-cigarettes are for drug addicts is basically the pot calling the kettle paraphernalia, and I understand your sensitivity to being put in the same category as people who offend you. However, as pointed out by others, there are many kinds of drug addicts and stereotyping them the way our ignorant friend on Youtube did or stereotyping them as they have in the media...is all still stereotyping and is supremely short-sighted. Drug addicts are also successful celebrities, politicians, doctors, lawyers, police officers, teachers, soldiers, firefighters... Heroes and villains alike can be addicted to one or more drugs, and many of their addictions go untreated because they are socially acceptable, legal, have no significant adverse effects, or the adverse effects have just gone unnoticed.

What this guy was trying (but failing miserably) to accomplish was to make himself feel better about his addiction by poking fun at other people's attempt to improve themselves. Its like all the people who made excuses for their sedentary lives by pointing out every time a health enthusiast has a heart attack.

We could sit here and argue about what this guy meant when he said "drug addicts", but it seems like a pretty fruitless venture considering that the ignorant ****tard couldn't have known what he meant in the first place as obviously any definition for "drug addict" that could possibly include e-cigarettes would certainly include the analog he was smoking when he said it.

...well, actually there is one other possibility. Perhaps our smoker friend was actually trying for some deep irony and only pretending to be a hosehead. Perhaps what he was really trying to convey was the deeper connection to e-cigarettes as smoking cessation program could make the user of such devices analogous to other dependency programs. Perhaps it wasn't the pot calling the kettle black, but the tweaker was calling the methadone patient a QUITTER.

 

[BigJimW]

I believe he deleted the video response... Go JIM!.

Yes, he did. Well. I guess the toothless truth was a bit too much for him. Oh well.

 

[cassavetes]

1982 called; they want their mullet back.

 

[Blooper]

I guess it sort of makes sense. Drug addiction is a very broad term and usually has a negative connotation attached with it. Some people just like to live in their little holes and stay within the confines of their personal comfort zones and not embrace the "new" in modern society. For example I read a study saying those past the age of 60 who email or facebook/twitter will live an average of 10 years longer than those who don't. Simply because they are embracing the new in society and flexing their mental muscle. “If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.”

 

[Superstargoddess]

Saying that e-cigarettes are for drug addicts is basically the pot calling the kettle paraphernalia, and I understand your sensitivity to being put in the same category as people who offend you. However, as pointed out by others, there are many kinds of drug addicts and stereotyping them the way our ignorant friend on Youtube did or stereotyping them as they have in the media...is all still stereotyping and is supremely short-sighted. Drug addicts are also successful celebrities, politicians, doctors, lawyers, police officers, teachers, soldiers, firefighters... Heroes and villains alike can be addicted to one or more drugs, and many of their addictions go untreated because they are socially acceptable, legal, have no significant adverse effects, or the adverse effects have just gone unnoticed.

What this guy was trying (but failing miserably) to accomplish was to make himself feel better about his addiction by poking fun at other people's attempt to improve themselves. Its like all the people who made excuses for their sedentary lives by pointing out every time a health enthusiast has a heart attack.

We could sit here and argue about what this guy meant when he said "drug addicts", but it seems like a pretty fruitless venture considering that the ignorant ****tard couldn't have known what he meant in the first place as obviously any definition for "drug addict" that could possibly include e-cigarettes would certainly include the analog he was smoking when he said it.

...well, actually there is one other possibility. Perhaps our smoker friend was actually trying for some deep irony and only pretending to be a hosehead. Perhaps what he was really trying to convey was the deeper connection to e-cigarettes as smoking cessation program could make the user of such devices analogous to other dependency programs. Perhaps it wasn't the pot calling the kettle black, but the tweaker was calling the methadone patient a QUITTER.

We can all agree to disagree on that! But we can all agree that the guy from Canada who made that video was a complete idiot!

 

[Joe81]

i wonder if that fool was even from canada, i'm ashamed! i like how the smoker said to just put it down when he doesn't have the will to do it himself...what a way to 'maintain' credibility on his propaganda piece...

 

[Thulium]

We can all agree to disagree on that! But we can all agree that the guy from Canada who made that video was a complete idiot!

I'm not sure what you disagree with. Are you reserving the term "drug addict" to people who's addiction has affected their life adversely? Because even then, there are many examples of people who despite their life setbacks from drug addictions still managed to accomplish some amazing things. Here's a few: Famous Addicts - List of Celebrity Addicts I'm not condoning their addictions, but I'm saying that being in their company isn't exactly the biggest insult.

But yeah, like I said...The guy might as well have been smoking crack and then saying that methadone is for losers.

 

[brownbrown4]

all his video's are b.s. looked at another.... he's jus lookin for Internet fame.... talking trash like a broke glen beck or rush limbagh (sry beck and limbagh fans).

 

[Superstargoddess]

I'm not sure what you disagree with. Are you reserving the term "drug addict" to people who's addiction has affected their life adversely? Because even then, there are many examples of people who despite their life setbacks from drug addictions still managed to accomplish some amazing things. Here's a few: Famous Addicts - List of Celebrity Addicts I'm not condoning their addictions, but I'm saying that being in their company isn't exactly the biggest insult.

But yeah, like I said...The guy might as well have been smoking crack and then saying that methadone is for losers.

I don't know, I just see a big difference between people who smoke analogs or vape and people who do things like crack and heroine.

 

[gregg perrelli]

okay...how many years has this man been on serious drugs, I think maybe this is the future anti drug campain "look at this guy8-o...don't do drugs!" Honestly i want to buy e-cigs just to know i'm doing something this man is not, and that must be doing something right.
The wife of the vapor

 

[brownbrown4]

I don't know, I just see a big difference between people who smoke analogs or vape and people who do things like crack and heroine.

lol, come on SSgoddess.... it's cool to do drugs...
isn't that why people start drinking and smoking? to be "cool".

 

[Joe81]

lol yep, i like how he just has to wear sunglasses in the middle of the night for some reason...

 

[treble]

lol yep, i like how he just has to wear sunglasses in the middle of the night for some reason...

i blame corey hart....he taught us that all you canadians wear sunglasses at night.....don't you?????? ;-)

 

[Joe81]

i blame corey hart....he taught us that all you canadians wear sunglasses at night.....don't you?????? ;-)

lol only excuse for wearing sunglasses at night is to be a celeb with papparazzi camera's blinding them...otherwise, they're an obvious drug addict or just plain fool...

 

[Thulium]

I don't know, I just see a big difference between people who smoke analogs or vape and people who do things like crack and heroine.

Well of course you do. Unfortunately, there is a segment of society that tries to make itself feel better by vilifying others and lumping "everybody else" into the same category. The reality is there is a distinct difference between illicit substances where there is no social benefit from their use and drugs that can be used in moderation for recreation or even medical purposes. Technically speaking, anyone who gets a headache if they don't start their day with a cup of coffee is a drug addict--but that's a completely different animal than someone who becomes violent in order to get a fix.

 

[Heed]

Well well, aren't you sassy? Why are you so defensive on this type of thing? Yes, I have known drug addicts. Two of them in my close family have died of OD's. Do I consider us to be like them? Hell no.

Sassy?

Is well reasoned argumentation now considered "sassy"? Is pointing out other's incoherence now "sassy"? No, it's just a way of responding when you don't have any actual arguments.

Defensive?

How am I being defensive? If anyone is being defensive -- it's you. I'm just trying to get you to see the double standard you are applying -- the hypocrisy of your position. Seems I'm not the only one trying in this thread, but you just refuse to see it -- self effacement.

"Hell no" -- when a plain old boring "no" just isn't enough.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Now that was me being someways closer to "sassy" -- wouldn't want to disappoint.

*shrug*

No point in me responding further -- you'll either get the point or you won't. And it seems like you won't if you haven't by now.