E-cigarettes deliver almost no nicotine

[kevinjames]

What do you think of this article. I'm a noob, trying to quit analogs and I read this and I'm sort of depressed.

Tell me it's bull.... and tell me why you think so.

E-cigarettes deliver almost no nicotine.

 

[permafrying]

i wouldnt pay any attention to it sounds like bull to me. vape some high nic liquid and youll know your getting the nicotine because you get nic sick. plus the e stoge cures my withdrawels no problem unless im really really anxious but thats for other reasons

 

[Maxine]

"Almost no" is not the same as none. But even if it's all in my head, my head is what I use to vape... so it's all good.

 

[StormFinch]

Lol ask the vets around here. Eissenburg ran his original study with people who had never picked up an e-cig before, and IIRC one of the cheaper prefilled cartomizer brands. After the study, several of our number contacted him and he joined the forum to discuss it. Somewhere around here is a long thread with all the back and forth. After he took into account the views here, he ran a continine test on himself post e-cig and found that he did indeed receive nicotine. He's currently re-running the study with seasoned vapers on their own equipment.

I'll post the thread for you if I can find it, but basically the original study was flawed.

Here's the thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/medical-research/69409-cnn-com-today-eissenberg-study-feedback.html screen name teissenb would be the scientist.

 

[cigarbabe]

This study is fairly old news.
Please don't be alarmed by it.
There are many out there who would like to see ecigs disappear for no reason other than " it looks like smoking"
or "we don't know if they are safe".
All those statements are baloney!
Keep on vaping, you are doing the right thing as are many of us.
C.B.

 

[ShannonA]

i wouldnt pay any attention to it sounds like bull to me. vape some high nic liquid and youll know your getting the nicotine because you get nic sick. plus the e stoge cures my withdrawels no problem unless im really really anxious but thats for other reasons

I agree that there are times you can tell you're getting nic. Vape too much nic too fast and you can sometimes even get what I term a mini high...what else would it be from pg?

I think it would be a good thing if these worked this well and we were barely getting any nic though. However I don't think that's the case and I'm ok with that too.

 

[ancient puffer]

Always check your sources. The good "doctor", has published his "study" at tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/19/1/87.full

My bet is that even tho he may have subsequently found out that ecigs do in fact deliver nicotine, he won't publish his new findings, since it doesn't support the "tobacco control" agenda.

Golly, Batman, who do you supposed funded that study?

 

[WiKiD]

Got be a load of... Yeah. I have given myself some crazy nicotine buzzes from chain-vaping 24mg too quickly. It tends to happen when I order a bunch of samples. I would barely get a nicotine buzz off of chain smoking, so experience trumps an article for me.

 

[NicLiq]

Ha! Well, little does he know, we figure out a way to get that nicotine out of there come hell or high water.

 

[stalebird]

This decent nic buzz I'm getting cause I can't stop playing with my new Inferno (t) would beg to differ with this article!

 

[ukeman]

i've over done it with the nic many a time... guess i'm de-sensitized now...

 

[DC2]

Here is the thread where we discuss with Dr. Eissenburg the results of his first study...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-cnn-com-today-eissenberg-study-feedback.html

And here are some threads about some of his subsequent studies after following our advice...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nbergs-study-yep-e-cigs-deliver-nicotine.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eissenberg-study-vindicates-e-cigarettes.html

 

[Nomoreash]

It doesn't say what device they were using either. It could have been at 3.2v with a high ohm atty. Try the same test with a dual coil carto at 5v and 24mg juice.

 

[Eli Huffman]

It's all bs!! I've been vaping for over a yr and I deff feel the nic everytime I vape!!

Vape one,

Eli

 

[hgielm1]

Are there any studies that DO prove that there is actually nicotine being delivered in ecigs? How can some folks worry about using the high strength eliquid if very little nicotine is being delivered? Where is the truth in all this?

 

[hairball]

Wow...is that why I DON'T get sick after vaping too much???? Dumby me thought it was too much nic absorption.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

As cigarbabe pointed out, this thing is buried under the weight of time. As StormFinch mentioned, it was, in any event, flawed science. Which is too bad, when you think of it; I'd be happy for the FDA to trot out Eissenberg as witness for the prosecution, then proceed with the argument that insofar as e-cigarettes are harmless placebos that deliver no nicotine, they therefore must be strictly regulated as drug-delivery devices.

 

[fray]

I feel effects of nicotine when I vape.

My life insurance company found nicotine in my system also.

 

[wdave]

What do you think of this article. I'm a noob, trying to quit analogs and I read this and I'm sort of depressed.

Tell me it's bull.... and tell me why you think so.

E-cigarettes deliver almost no nicotine.

I'm aware that less nicotine is absorbed with an ecig than a real cigarette. This type of information has been posted here before.

Some have suggested e-cigs become available at up to 50 mg nicotine because of it.

This is why I have no problem or guilt vaping 36 mg. And it works for me.

HTH,
Dave

 

[chevelle]

I don't have the link to the thread here but I remember reading about someone who had a blood test done after vaping exclusively for a period of time. He/she posted the results of the test. Results showed a measurable percentage of nicotine in the blood. Much less than the average tobacco user but much more than someone who doesn't smoke or vape. Conclusive scientific evidence? No. Tangible proof that suggests that vaping does deliver nicotine? Yes Indeedy!

Regardless of the reports, I know that after trying to quit analogs in the past made me want to climb the walls from very real, severe physical nicotine withdrawl symptoms. Vaping about 16-18 mg liquid regularly, reduced those symptoms to the point where I don't crave cigarettes at all with little or no physical discomfort. What vaping DOES NOT deliver are the effects of those thousands of other chemicals present in the average cigarette. Some of which, I'm sure, have addictive properties. YMMV, But that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.