E-Cigarettes Give Poor Delivery Of Drug Smokers Crave
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IMO they do deliver what is needed. I smoked 3 packs a day for 40 years and have been smoke free for 11 months. The only time I ever did without cigarettes was when I was in the hospital and then I had a patch to wear. I was never able to go more than one day without cigarettes. I thought I would never be able to quit cigarettes. I loved them more than life.
But I did quit and I find it amazing. Just read the forum. There are thousands of people who quit.
But I did quit and I find it amazing. Just read the forum. There are thousands of people who quit.
I'm like Jesse. No e-cig/liquid combination satisfies like a cigarette. I don't blame it on inadequate nicotine in my liquid and/or carts, not when 48mg is used. It's the other addictive alkaloids that are missing. Jesse finds them in the occasional cigarette; I get them from using snus and dissolvables at the same time I vape.
Given a chance, e-cigs will evolve and improve and find a combination that closely mimics the smoking experience. What a shame it would be to throw this baby out in the anti-bathwater. The promise is there, but the goal has not been reached. Jesse will continue to fret and feel the need for real tobacco and its alkaloids.
Given a chance, e-cigs will evolve and improve and find a combination that closely mimics the smoking experience. What a shame it would be to throw this baby out in the anti-bathwater. The promise is there, but the goal has not been reached. Jesse will continue to fret and feel the need for real tobacco and its alkaloids.
The thing that constantly amazes me about the e-cig is how it (finally) address the other issues about smoking habits that have been blatantly ignored since C. Everett Koop claimed that nicotine should be seen and thus regulated as a drug back in the late 80s, and the parallel staunch anti-smoking movement that it inspired.
I've claimed for years, at the incredulity of my best friends and colleagues, that my smoking habit was based more on the enjoyment of smoking than on nicotine addiction; not withstanding that nicotine is in fact addictive, it doesn't necessarily have to be the thing that's keeping one primarily attached to cigarettes in the way that they are. I've been in situations where I've had to give up smoking for months at a time, and I've never experience nicotine withdrawal to the extent that I see it in other people.
The e-cig is the first alternative smoking system that actually proves my stance. All of us are addicted to cigs for different reasons, or a combination of different reasons. That could include just nicotine craving, or craving for other chemicals added into the cigarette tobacco, or craving for other tobacco-based nitrosamines. Yet, sometimes the result shows up that it's just someone who was mentally addicted to the act of smoking.
I've claimed for years, at the incredulity of my best friends and colleagues, that my smoking habit was based more on the enjoyment of smoking than on nicotine addiction; not withstanding that nicotine is in fact addictive, it doesn't necessarily have to be the thing that's keeping one primarily attached to cigarettes in the way that they are. I've been in situations where I've had to give up smoking for months at a time, and I've never experience nicotine withdrawal to the extent that I see it in other people.
The e-cig is the first alternative smoking system that actually proves my stance. All of us are addicted to cigs for different reasons, or a combination of different reasons. That could include just nicotine craving, or craving for other chemicals added into the cigarette tobacco, or craving for other tobacco-based nitrosamines. Yet, sometimes the result shows up that it's just someone who was mentally addicted to the act of smoking.
What is the reporter from the first piece smoking?
"So which stop-smoking methods are most effective?
• Chantix, a prescribed medication that blocks nicotine receptors in the brain, has the highest success rate at 44 percent, Lerman said. Those who use Chantix and receive counseling can boost their chances of success by up to 10 percent, she said.
•Nicotine inhalers, another doctor-prescribed method, have about a 22 percent success rate, compared with 8 percent for a placebo.
•Zyban, a prescribed medication, initially was developed as an anti-depressant (Wellbutrin). For smoking cessation, it has about a 30 percent success rate.
•Nicotine gum, about 23 percent.
•The patch, 17 percent."
Let's just report the week 4 results as if the are the final results.
44% for chantix??? is that including or excluding the death toll???
If you are really interested in switching you will eventually get off whatever crappy beginner e-cig you bought because you don't know any better and after a bit more research move on to one that works for your individual habit better.
"So which stop-smoking methods are most effective?
• Chantix, a prescribed medication that blocks nicotine receptors in the brain, has the highest success rate at 44 percent, Lerman said. Those who use Chantix and receive counseling can boost their chances of success by up to 10 percent, she said.
•Nicotine inhalers, another doctor-prescribed method, have about a 22 percent success rate, compared with 8 percent for a placebo.
•Zyban, a prescribed medication, initially was developed as an anti-depressant (Wellbutrin). For smoking cessation, it has about a 30 percent success rate.
•Nicotine gum, about 23 percent.
•The patch, 17 percent."
Let's just report the week 4 results as if the are the final results.
44% for chantix??? is that including or excluding the death toll???
If you are really interested in switching you will eventually get off whatever crappy beginner e-cig you bought because you don't know any better and after a bit more research move on to one that works for your individual habit better.
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IMO, you have to want to quit smoking when you come over to e-cigs. People think it'll be easy...it's never easy to get off cigarettes. But e-cigs are the easiest way to do it, I have no doubts about that. Still, it does require some willpower.
It was not easy to switch to e-cigarettes. I was a royal %^(#& for 2 weeks. My husband was pleading, "Please, have a cigarette. Not for me, Honey, but for the other people I am afraid you may physically harm...." 
I made my PV work for me in spite of it. Now that I have been off cigarettes for the most part since Sept, when I do have the odd one I do not like it or find it fulfilling in the least.
Eventually I'm going to cut out the nicotine, but I am scared I'll gain weight, so I am taking my time before beginning that task.
I smoked heavily for 11 years, and am now what I thought I'd never be - a non-smoker, thanks to my PVs.
I made my PV work for me in spite of it. Now that I have been off cigarettes for the most part since Sept, when I do have the odd one I do not like it or find it fulfilling in the least.
Eventually I'm going to cut out the nicotine, but I am scared I'll gain weight, so I am taking my time before beginning that task.
I smoked heavily for 11 years, and am now what I thought I'd never be - a non-smoker, thanks to my PVs.
See my comments a couple of posts above. People are addicted to cigs for a number of different and overlapping reasons. Totally unexpected success stories abound on this forum, from people who had no intention to quit, but were gadget freaks or just wanted to check e-cigs out of curiosity. Many quit after their first day with the e-cig (including me). So depending on what was the nature of your cig addiction, the e-cig has shown amazing reults to the magnitude of 40+ years "hopelessly addicted" cig smokers, with no intention to quit, suddenly quitting on their first day of e-cigs. after 40+ years of relentless daily smoking.
I'm not a particularly impressionable person, but those results speak for themselves.
I have to agree with Chip.
I bought my first e-cig when the tax increase hit last Spring. I hoped to cut in half my 3 pack a day habit to save some money.
A bit later, I realized I hadn't had a cigarette in 3 days. The open packs were lying all over the house, so it wasn't like I even hid them from myself.
I was a stanch smoker and every time an anti commercial came on I lit one up "just because they wanted me not to"
No one was going to heavy-handed force me to do something I didn't want to.
I bought my first e-cig when the tax increase hit last Spring. I hoped to cut in half my 3 pack a day habit to save some money.
A bit later, I realized I hadn't had a cigarette in 3 days. The open packs were lying all over the house, so it wasn't like I even hid them from myself.
I was a stanch smoker and every time an anti commercial came on I lit one up "just because they wanted me not to"
No one was going to heavy-handed force me to do something I didn't want to.
Well it is interesting, BUT for me i wanted to quit, Taking the first step was the hardest, then for what ever reason this is working for me, ecig's have made "not" smoking pain free. So they can say whatever they want to say in thier articles. Im so thrilled to be able to say Im smoke free, this is the longest i have gone without smoking in over 20 years.
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Perhaps it's a mindset.
For me, I had that awful panic attack whenever I even thought of quitting (and I tried them all, patches, gum, wellbutrin, hypnosis...not Chantix, tho)
and because I wasn't TRYING to quit perhaps it came easily. I could have one whenever I wanted. Just wound up not wanting them.
If I had been wanting to quit with my e-cig, it undoubtedly would have been more difficult because I would have felt I was depriving myself of the cigarettes.
Maybe. I think.
For me, I had that awful panic attack whenever I even thought of quitting (and I tried them all, patches, gum, wellbutrin, hypnosis...not Chantix, tho)
and because I wasn't TRYING to quit perhaps it came easily. I could have one whenever I wanted. Just wound up not wanting them.
If I had been wanting to quit with my e-cig, it undoubtedly would have been more difficult because I would have felt I was depriving myself of the cigarettes.
Maybe. I think.
I have to agree with Chip.
I bought my first e-cig when the tax increase hit last Spring. I hoped to cut in half my 3 pack a day habit to save some money.
A bit later, I realized I hadn't had a cigarette in 3 days. The open packs were lying all over the house, so it wasn't like I even hid them from myself.
I was a stanch smoker and every time an anti commercial came on I lit one up "just because they wanted me not to"
Perhaps it's a mindset.
For me, I had that awful panic attack whenever I even thought of quitting (and I tried them all, patches, gum, wellbutrin, hypnosis...not Chantix, tho)
and because I wasn't TRYING to quit perhaps it came easily. I could have one whenever I wanted. Just wound up not wanting them.
If I had been wanting to quit with my e-cig, it undoubtedly would have been more difficult because I would have felt I was depriving myself of the cigarettes.
Maybe. I think.
In all the time I have been lurking around here on the forum, This is the first time I have seen anyone who described my thoughts and attitudes to the T when I started e cigarettes. I felt exactly as you did about being told NOT to smoke. I also shared the same experiece with "not trying to quit". I just was looking for something to help defray the costs and maybe replace some of the real cigarettes that were killing me. 2+ months later here I am. I have not smoked a cigarette in weeks now. I also never told myself could not smoke a real cigarette and in the beginning, I did smoke. Then one day I just wasn't smoking cigarettes anymore. I Still give myself permission to smoke real cigarettes. I just don't seem to have any good reason to.
This is exactly what I am thinking. I'ts like e-cig just kind of sneaks into your life and gently takes the analogs away before you even knew what happened!
That, to me, is the sign of a first-rate quit-smoking device!
It is unfortunate that some people can't find their way here or to other forums before they purchase/try e cigs. I cannot imagine how things would have gone for me if I had not found myself here digging into all this great info and support. I posted to the story about e cigs not delivering. I think these articles are being put into press by the cigarette manufacturers. We all need to post our experiences any time we encounter them. This BS can only be stopped by sheer numbers of it worked for me testimonials. This many success stories cannot be a placebo effect!
I was one of the lucky ones. I started with Smoke Tip, which turned out to be a kr8 and a really decent starter. I started in June 09, and never joined this forum until September. I was looking for more flavors and longer batteries. Coming here has only enhanced the experience and the ability to share knowledge.
I totally agree with PrincessDee and Farrar01
I would do the same exact thing. Some of those commercials were just so over the top they were ridiculous and the anti-smoking Nazis just don't realize it.
Recently however there was (IMHO) an effective anti-smoking commercial and it was effective because it was simple:
A doctor walks into an exam room and tells the man sitting on the table: You have lung cancer . . . they repeat the same scenario with the doctor telling the man he had various illnesses brought on by smoking and in the end the voiceover says something like: if you keep smoking what do you expect to hear? Or something like that . . .
But again, I thought it was successful because it was simple and realistic.
I was a stanch smoker and every time an anti commercial came on I lit one up "just because they wanted me not to"
I would do the same exact thing. Some of those commercials were just so over the top they were ridiculous and the anti-smoking Nazis just don't realize it.
Recently however there was (IMHO) an effective anti-smoking commercial and it was effective because it was simple:
A doctor walks into an exam room and tells the man sitting on the table: You have lung cancer . . . they repeat the same scenario with the doctor telling the man he had various illnesses brought on by smoking and in the end the voiceover says something like: if you keep smoking what do you expect to hear? Or something like that . . .
But again, I thought it was successful because it was simple and realistic.
If everyone would do what I do, we could get this message across a lot quicker. If I post on a web site in response to someone talking about trying an e cig or if someone asks and is interested in them when I'm out and about (this is becoming a half dozen times a week lately), I suggest they visit this forum and one other that is not as good, but helpful.
I even have a standard email that I send out to those I meet to give them the links that I talk about. How many follow up, I don't know, but I'm just so happy about how this has worked out that I can't stop trying to help others. The e cig is great, but this forum really helps for those not fortunate to have the e cig as the be all, end all. I needed a couple snus portions a day to get me totally off smokes and it took me 7 months to realize it. I didn't even know snus existed until coming here.
Everyone's story varies a bit, but the bottom line is that many thousands have quit with e-cigs where nothing else worked. The above story, "...realized I hadn't had a cig in 3 days" is a very common one. They work. Personally, I was afraid I would never be able to quit, after trying most everything. With e-cigs I was able to cut back to about 5-8 cigs a day from 2 packs. After a week I cut to one-a-day. After 2 weeks I realized I hadn't had one one a few days. That was last June, and I have NO desire to go back - I do fear that a ban would force me back. Folks, keep that in mind next Nov. when we can vote for smaller, less in-your-face government. Let's cut the agencies budgets 50% - especially the FDA. Dr. G.
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