E-Cigarettes Give Poor Delivery Of Drug Smokers Crave

[Belletrist]

i agree with chipcurtis. my smoking habit was 'incurable' (i thought) and i had no intentions to quit, but was just curious about vaping. fell in love with it and it satisfied all the habitual stuff from smoking--haven't looked back.

 

[Kilroy]

I'm like Jesse. No e-cig/liquid combination satisfies like a cigarette. I don't blame it on inadequate nicotine in my liquid and/or carts, not when 48mg is used. It's the other addictive alkaloids that are missing. Jesse finds them in the occasional cigarette; I get them from using snus and dissolvables at the same time I vape.

Given a chance, e-cigs will evolve and improve and find a combination that closely mimics the smoking experience. What a shame it would be to throw this baby out in the anti-bathwater. The promise is there, but the goal has not been reached. Jesse will continue to fret and feel the need for real tobacco and its alkaloids.

You have a good handle on what smoking tobacco is all about, and nicotine plays a minor role. But there are a lot of us that can subsist with the one component provided by the vaporizer. Are we better off, or just fooling ourselves?

 

[cptr13]

I haven't read this whole thread so someone may have covered this point, but I'm positive I'm getting nicotine. I've smoked a handful of analogs since starting vaping a few months ago. Last week when I had one, I realized I didn't get a buzz. When I go nic free long enough for the nicotine to leave my system, and I smoke, I get a buzz, like we all did when nicotine was new to us.

How many of you get a buzz when you have an analog? I'm betting no one. Because we're getting nicotine.

So the no nicotine delivery is pure bs, we'd be able to tell plain as day as long as we're relatively analog free.

 

[VictorySpeedway]

I responded to the writer:

I smoked a pack a day for 38 years. I tried quitting cold turkey, tried patches, gum, hypnosis, everything but Chantix. None were effective for very long. Sooner or later, I visited the convenience store and purchased another $7.00 pack of smokes. Out of desperation, I bought a "personal vaporizer." I took one puff on my "PV," and threw most of a pack of cigarettes in the trash. That was on December 9, 2009. I have had no - none, zero - urges to light up a cigarette as the electronic version mimics the act of smoking to a tee, including nicotine delivery, minus the dangerous chemicals and combustion by-products of tobacco. I would suggest that, rather than rely solely on scientific studies (University of Virginia... isn't that the same state where Phillip Morris has its headquarters?), you talk to as many "vapers" as you can find. Their stories will be very similar to my own. As far as I'm concerned, I'm an ex-smoker and, as long as I have my "e-cigs," will remain one.

 

[bestthingever]

See my comments a couple of posts above. People are addicted to cigs for a number of different and overlapping reasons. Totally unexpected success stories abound on this forum, from people who had no intention to quit, but were gadget freaks or just wanted to check e-cigs out of curiosity. Many quit after their first day with the e-cig (including me). So depending on what was the nature of your cig addiction, the e-cig has shown amazing reults to the magnitude of 40+ years "hopelessly addicted" cig smokers, with no intention to quit, suddenly quitting on their first day of e-cigs. after 40+ years of relentless daily smoking.

I'm not a particularly impressionable person, but those results speak for themselves.

What he said.

 

[PaulB]

I guess this thread is as good a place as any to vent some paranoia--only it's not paranoia if it's true.

I think the mind-set we (as smokers or ex-smokers) are up against is that our second-class citizenship entitles us only to "treatments" that are unpleasant. Yes, we must be treated but, as smokers, we also must be punished. If the treatment brings pleasure it is automatically suspect.

 

[ChipCurtis]

I think the mind-set we (as smokers or ex-smokers) are up against is that our second-class citizenship entitles us only to "treatments" that are unpleasant. Yes, we must be treated but, as smokers, we also must be punished. If the treatment brings pleasure it is automatically suspect.

This reminds me of an anti-drug-war stand-up routine by Bill Maher where he talks about, if Jesus were alive today, why he would be against medical marijuana use. He said he just can't picture this peace-loving, long-haired radical rabbi/carpenter from 2000 years ago walking up to you, pulling a joint out of your mouth, wagging his finger, and saying, "Ah Ah Ah, my friend... that's a slippery slope. We'll have none of that."

Then he goes on to talk about how, in the minds of the ultra-religious among us, how their "compassionate God" always ends up needing to use punishment and often violence as the way for humans to learn a lesson.

 

[basic_atheist]

That courant.com article is nothing short of being anti-ecig hogwash pushing Big Pharma Drugs. I gave it a piece of my mind!