E-Cigarettes rejuvenate tobacco smoker’s lungs: leaked study

[Poli]

Anyone else hear about this?

A study sponsored by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that associated electronic cigarette use with improved lung function will not be released to the public, according to sources with knowledge of the findings.

E-Cigarettes rejuvenate tobacco smoker

 

[supertrunker]

Isn't the FDA a "science-based organization"?

hehehe.

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[xtwosm0kesx]

Sounds about right....sigh.

 

[DrMA]

I wouldn't put it past the FDA to do something like this, though I remain a bit skeptical.

 

[AgentAnia]

I wouldn't put it past the FDA to do something like this, though I remain a bit skeptical.

Though I really want this to be true, I share your sketicism. Have we become too cynical?

 

[dragonpuff]

Anyone else hear about this?

A study sponsored by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that associated electronic cigarette use with improved lung function will not be released to the public, according to sources with knowledge of the findings.

E-Cigarettes rejuvenate tobacco smoker

I want so much to believe this. I have no doubt that if a study like that were conducted, we would see results like this... but...

With no sources whatsoever, how do we know this is real??

Please someone prove that this is real? Pretty please?? I want to believe!!!

 

[Kent C]

I want so much to believe this. I have no doubt that if a study like that were conducted, we would see results like this... but...

With no sources whatsoever, how do we know this is real??

Please someone prove that this is real? Pretty please?? I want to believe!!!

I looked Didn't find anything using some of the parameters in the story. Dr F did a lung capacity section in his 2013? study - basically asking how they 'felt':

http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/2013/04/how-electronic-cigarettes-affect-lungs.html

see chart #7

 

[Anjaffm]

Well, actually, the findings of such a study would be nothing new or even surprising.

A 100% switch from smoking to vaping is - not to put too fine a point on it - smoking cessation.
A 100% vaper will experience the negative side effects of smoking cessation.
A 100% vaper will also experience the positive effects of smoking cessation - including those that come directly from no longer putting smoke and tar into his / her lungs.
--> Of course breathing improves after smoking cessation, if it was impaired before in connection with years / decades of inhaling smoke and tar.

And this "rejuvenates lungs" is the same language that is used in those smoking cessation / quit smoking advice pages.

The result is completely logical.
What is not logical (or subject only to the perverse logic of greed) is that we have not seen these obvious results more often.

 

[Alto101]

How can we get some pressure on the FDA to release this study? This study obviously doesn't support their political agenda so it is going to take something serious to get this released. I would love a giant lawsuit against the FDA.

 

[Alto101]

Doing some math from the article...after 6 months, 74% of the participants of the group who used E-juice with nicotine remained tobacco free! With that kind of success rate; any logical person would argue that e-cigarettes should be promoted by the FDA, right? Not only were 74% successful in remaining tobacco free; they also had over a 50% improvement in lung function!

What percent of people remain tobacco free after six months with the FDA approved garbage?

 

[B2L]

Doing some math from the article...after 6 months, 74% of the participants of the group who used E-juice with nicotine remained tobacco free! With that kind of success rate; any logical person would argue that e-cigarettes should be promoted by the FDA, right? Not only were 74% successful in remaining tobacco free; they also had over a 50% improvement in lung function!

What percent of people remain tobacco free after six months with the FDA approved garbage?

Unfortunately, the only math our illustrious elected officials are concerned with is the shrinking tax revenue from tobacco sales and the large contributions from BT and BP.

 

[sonicdsl]

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What percent of people remain tobacco free after six months with the FDA approved garbage?

The accepted number by honest folks is ~5% success rate using NRT products.


I remain quite skeptical about the validity of this report. I would love Bill or Carl to weigh in with their thoughts on this one.

 

[2coils]

If this were to be true....a leaked study, it makes absolutely zero sense IMO, that it was leaked to this source and only this source. I call I will say, if it were true, the study would have been filed in the incinerator room at FDA headquarters immediately upon arrival!

 

[MonkInsane]

Doing some math from the article...after 6 months, 74% of the participants of the group who used E-juice with nicotine remained tobacco free! With that kind of success rate; any logical person would argue that e-cigarettes should be promoted by the FDA, right? Not only were 74% successful in remaining tobacco free; they also had over a 50% improvement in lung function!

What percent of people remain tobacco free after six months with the FDA approved garbage?

That's the problem with E-Cigs - no repeat business for big pharma. Don't be gullible - this is all about money.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

I'm from the if it's to good to be true crowd it probably isn't.

The problem is the numbers sound close to what would be expected if they gave people who were thinking about quitting decent equipment and some help with it.

I'll just wait for further conformation either way.

 

[turner.curtis]

What percent of people remain tobacco free after six months with the FDA approved garbage?

Looking just at Chantix here FDA Charts, being fair at least 597 stayed tobacco free for 6 months per the data from Open FDA.

 

[sonicdsl]

Looking just at Chantix here FDA Charts, being fair at least 597 stayed tobacco free for 6 months per the data from Open FDA.

Because 572 were deceased?

 

[sqirl1]

I would love Bill or Carl to weigh in with their thoughts on this one.

Yeah guys where are you? When I first saw this thread that's the first thing I scanned the responses for, until I hear from them it's as good as fake. Now if it is confirmed, that's litterly criminal activity that might just mean we already win because no federal judge would accept the current FDA's credibility if they're busted doing this crap. Where's Edward Snowden an Jullian Assange when you need them?!?!?

 

[Spazmelda]

I'm from the if it's to good to be true crowd it probably isn't.

The problem is the numbers sound close to what would be expected if they gave people who were thinking about quitting decent equipment and some help with it.

I'll just wait for further conformation either way.

Actually, the numbers seem a little too good to me. It says the study took two years, so it would have had to have been started at least two years ago, with some device that was common at that time. I'd think if the researchers were already determined to prove ecigs 'bad' or ineffective, they would have picked something crappy. 70 something % complete switching with a (likely) crappy ecig would be pretty amazing. I don't know... I'd love for this to be true though.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

I was thinking Ego + carto tank, second generation type equipment.