E cigs get banned. Solutions?

[Momba]

I've recently found out that e cigs are trying to be banned in the state of Maryland, this is bad because I live here. Maryland is the worst state to live in, just ask anyone. This being said, we must find an alternative to e smoking if there is one. I've heard of bad neighborhoods before being crack houses or heroine houses but it's quickly becoming the age when you'll here people say" stay away from him, he's a vap-head". The only alternative to sitting at home and e smoking in your closet, and getting an out of state po box under the alias Rusty Shackleford ( thats mine u can't take it ) is to do as follows. 1. buy nobacco juice. 2. Some egg head must figure out how much nicotine is in 1 drop. 3. put the drop(s) on your wrist and wait for it to soak in. Nicotine can be soaked in threw your skin. But im still in the fight, E cigs saved my life, and my relationship. Least I could do is save them, or try. Thanks for reading.

 

[smokin n jokin]

The only way I can see to keep them from being banned is to voluntarily offer to pay a huge tax to Federal, state, county and local goverments on anything related to vaping.

 

[Loc]

we have to nip this in the .... before it spreads to the rest of the country. First its maryland and then the whole country is in a panic over e-cigs. I think the main reason people have a problem with them is because they think its going to make kids want to smoke, because they look all sleak and cool with their l.e.d. lights, and candy flavors. I'm just not sure what we can do to remedy the situation. Because flavored analogs were recently banned here in AR. So Flavored drug dispensor device's: such as the nicotine in e-cigs will undoubtedly meet their demise sooner or later. The only thing that gives me hope about the wholes situation is that maybe general public will see how many people are quitting analogs with e-cigs. Although I am afraid the law makers will see the same thing and think "well we have to put a stop to these things, cause they are taking away from our sin tax money" Then they will say it is for the children. We may have to take over Washington

 

[Momba]

Mcdonald's puts MSG flavors in all their foods. Coors light put "Enhanced" aka Liquid Hops into their beer. Those .......s over at Snyder's put Hot Buffalo Wing flavors on pretzels! They're delicious! Aslo 2 out of 3 of those will kill you. They're need to be more studies conducted about e cigs. I fear however, our best out come will be O mg Cartomizers with flavors OR a major company, Marlboro perhaps buys the patend for e cig divices and markets them in red shiny boxes

 

[UntamedRose]

I'm in a state that is talking about banning e-cigs to.. It was vetoed once but now back on the chopping block.

what can we do, educate as many people as you possibly can about it...convert as many smoker into vapers(both so they can help and for their health)....bug the mess out of your local representatives

However...after looking over the bill fro maryland. http://mlis.state.md.us/2010rs/bills/hb/hb0720f.pdf Should it pass...you might be kinda ok. (but still fight)
It isnt making possession owning/use of e-cigs illegal...you just cant sell them.
Which means you might want to start looking into the DIY stuff now, just in case

 

[BradSmith]

The only way I can see to keep them from being banned is to voluntarily offer to pay a huge tax to Federal, state, county and local goverments on anything related to vaping.

Yep you got to pay that bribe to stay alive.

 

[Momba]

true, but they shouldnt mess with us at all. But hey health cares free now, so smoke away right. Once uncle sam foot the bill for 2000 people a day with tobacco related illnesses you wont be able to turn ur tele on with out seeing a Njoy add.

 

[Momba]

By the way heres some facts for ya. 50mg of nicotine will kill us. 91.7 mg of ....... will kill you. Something like 1000mg of THC can kill. How many people must die from making their own juice?

 

[CES]

The Maryland ban died in committee, but there is still legislation to restrict indoor usage. Here are links to information about actions you can take and people to contact. You can also get more information in the campaigning subforum

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/80133-what-do-proposed-bans-4-states.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/78337-email-addresses-il-md.html

 

[kcr]

Because flavored analogs were recently banned here in AR. So Flavored drug dispensor device's: such as the nicotine in e-cigs will undoubtedly meet their demise sooner or later.

You are aware that no one actually sold flavored cigarettes--right? Well, there were clove cigarettes, but they are now sold as cigars... That whole thing was a publicity stunt.

You can buy flavored nicotine gum with the FDA's blessing. Why is flavored nicotine liquid any different than that?

 

[dude13248]

because they know " " what the gum is all about and what has in it and what it can do to you" ".. Ridiculous, they know real cigs are bad..

 

[NCC]

Maryland is the worst state to live in, just ask anyone.

You've obviously never lived in Florida.

 

[Ashtarot]

You've obviously never lived in Florida.

I have to agree with you on that. Fl is only good for a visit, I would never want to live there year round again.

 

[Celarnor]

Something like 1000mg of THC can kill.

Where'd you get this data? 1000mg of THC won't even kill a mouse (LD50 of ~1300 mg/kg).

Humans would have to consume some 1500 pounds in 15 minutes to die from THC.

...... Madness — The Federal Response to California's Medical-......... Law
George J. Annas, J.D., M.P.H. New England Journal of Medicine. Volume 337:435-439 August 7, 1997 : Number 6

 

[Momba]

I was only guessing on the THC LD. I really hate to go by Wikipedia but 1300mg is correct. Everyone is different though. A man recently stumbled home with a bac ( blood alcohol content) of 0.38. Went to the hospital the next day with a huge headache. Took 3 days to rid him off all the alcohol and a week of cotton mouth. Gotta love our town drunks.

 

[PaulCincy]

That is one reason I keep a lot of supplies, especally attys and batteries.....Juice and cart fillers I could make....But, the attys and batteries would be a problem.. I wonder if a "D" cell battery can be used......lol...Just kidding...But, yes we all need to do something about the FDA and States prohibiting E-cigs...
Also, almost forgot, maybe I should also buy an extra charger for my Ego....?
Later, PaulCincy

 

[Momba]

Yes. I would like to see the FDA do a study on the nicotine absorption rate. According to my sources, my poppop, tobacco uses to be dried,chopped,and smoked. They didnt add anything to it. He said his friend johnjohn used to dip his tobacco leaves in his moonshine and let them dry before he smoked them. He swore it made the feel good feeling last longer. Poppop thought he was crazy and john later died in WW2 somewhere in france. (from some sort of land mine, not tobacco). That all ties back into my original thought, hope u enjoyed the trip, that nicotine dosent absorb into the lungs as well as pre treated nicotine does. So one puff of a cig vs one puff of an e cig will not be equal. Unless maybe a 48 mg juice, not cut down, is used then maybe drowning your lungs in the stuff may equal a cig. A friend once told me that nicotine will stick to your lungs and absorb slowly I.E that a cig may give you a larger dose but an e cig will last longer. any thoughts?

 

[Zippo]

The Federal and State governements are going to try and figure a way of taxing both the hardware and liquid used for E-Cigs. The state tax in my state is $3.00 a pack for regular cigarrettes. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that e cigs are way safer than a regular tobacco cigarette (anologs).But the FDA is causing a problem with them and shipments are being seized and held up at customs. So the FDA is saying, keep killing yourself with the anolgs and keep the revenue coming in while we keep you from a safer aternative. YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!

 

[clyde2801]

1. Get a good quality mechanical pv that you can completely clean and service yourself. (cough ggts cough cough)

2. I doubt a state will outlaw e cigs completely, but will ban the sale of them instead. Find a good supplier in another state that will ship to you. Choose one that mails discreetly, i.e., the package is listed as coming from VK, not Vapor Kings.

3. Regular batteries and chargers (18650, 14500, cr123, cr2)will not be banned, obviously. If you've got a decent 2nd or 3rd gen mod, you're already good to go there.

4. The weak point is juice and attys. May want to stockpile your faves before it takes effect just in case suppliers don't want to take the risk of shipping to you. Find a good brick and mortar store or a buddy in another state that can handle getting stuff to you.

5. If worst case scenario comes, learn how to use pg/vg to cut down nic strength on your stockpile and taper yourself off so you can quit. Write angry letters to your governor, reps, president, congressional delegation in the meanwhile.

6. If feasible, move to a better state.

 

[Momba]

True true. This country is going to hell in a hand basket. Im going to a local tea party soon to protest the new health care bill, well law now 3 I just don't get it. I can't find the logic for attacking us. We're still very much under ground. I been vaping for a year now and just recently had the guff to vap in plain site at an olive garden. I got tons of attention from the female waitresses and laughed my ... off while on brave girl choked on my Tequila Cardomizer after taking a drag of my manual Vapor king. Im currently chokeing on a banana flavored one right now lol. I just want one, one little thing to make life better. I got sex and e cigs. thats it.