e-juice nicotine strength vs analog cigarette nicotine

[feniks]

Hi vapers

need some advice as so far I've been reading guides and asking e-juice vendors about it, but haven't gotten satisfactory answer yet ...
so, i've been smoking Light cigarettes for ... ekhm ... 17 years or so, tomorrow will get my first e-cigarette. for starters I ordered (and received already) e-juices from HighBrow with 6mg nicotine levels. is it equivalent (considering the absorbed amounts, not absolute amounts)? if it's too low, I assume I will have a need to vape them more often "than I should", right?

or should I get next shipment of e-juices (still testing, so might try another vendor too) with let's say 12mg nicotine?

as far as I know 18mg is closer to regular analog cigarette, but can't find definite answer on Light equivalent, some say it's between 6 and 12mg others say it's 6mg right on spot ... and others claim it's rather 18mg or 24mg LOL ... I guess all are corect, all that changes is ust the amount of juice needed to get vaped in a given time, right?

here's the most "technical" nicotine absorption explanation I found so far:
Breaking it down

Thanks.

 

[gthompson]

You aren't going to find a definite answer because there is none, just educated guessing. There has been no real research.

 

[Winemiller1]

I started out on 12mg and it wasn't enough of a throat hit, then went to 18mg, and it was great. The problem was I began to vape more than I would smoke (back when I smoked).... so I would have to limit myself. I have now gone back to 12mg with more powerful devices and it's working good, but I may go and get some 18mg juices for the morning drive as that's when I crave it most. I started out 3 relatives on 18mg and they all thought it was perfect, but they vape closer to how they use to smoke and it works good for them. If they chain vape for awhile though they would have the same problem I had with getting a bit too much, and feeling the jitters, etc. but none of them complained and have stayed with their 18mg juices. I think 18mg juice if vaped like a cigarette is like a Marlboro Light (if used on a small e-cig battery) but if you go up to the variable voltage, and dual coils, and Low Resistance cartomizers, I belive you can go down to 12mg and still keep the good throat hit. I have tried 0, and 6, and I would suggest against them, unless you have some super powerful vape machaine, as they won't feel like anything otherwise, but rock concert vapor machine vapor with some flavor. I started with e-cigs and 18 and then 12, and now have an eGo Twist, but still isn't enough, so just bought a Provari, and I think the 12 will be good for 90% of the time, and will have 18 for those times where I want good authentic analog experience. I mostly use Halo Juices Tribeca, and Prime, but have been experimenting a bunch with lots of flavors. Hope this helps.

 

[feniks]

thanks for input guys.

Winemiller1, my PV for now is an eGO C Twist with standard Clearomizer (2.4 ohm I think), so I will be able to adjust voltage all the way up if needed. I also understand from your own experience (that's the reply I was looking for!) that I might need to get more 12mg juices soon tho

A co-worked (ex-smoker of Parliaments) took 18mg juices and he admitted he was getting dizzy after the first vape in mornings, to the point he had to sit down LOL ... I don't want that feeling, and I believe it comes from increased (than usual) nicotine levels when compared to analog cigs.

I am waiting on Innokin VV with iClear in the mail, but ti will take time, so for now my ego c twist will have to do. might try LR clearomizers, but I read that I'd need to be careful with higher variable voltage levels or it might burn out quickly.

 

[Jaysin]

6mg is way too light IMO. I smoked PAD camel lights for almost 20 years. I vape with 18mg. Seems good too me. Don't get cravings. I think I will try to go down to 12mg eventually but 18mg has been working well for me so far.

 

[mostlyclassics]

A co-worked (ex-smoker of Parliaments) took 18mg juices and he admitted he was getting dizzy after the first vape in mornings, to the point he had to sit down LOL ... I don't want that feeling, and I believe it comes from increased (than usual) nicotine levels when compared to analog cigs.

feniks, everyone's different -- you're not your co-worker. If you do inadvertenetly besmack yourself with a Vitamin-N overload, just wait a little while and the symptoms will pass. Then you'll know what your limits are.

Bear in mind that vaping is not anything like smoking! The only thing the two activities have in common is that they both enable you to ingest nicotine. And the nicotine hit from vaping is nothing like the one from smoking -- vaping is more akin to pipe smoking than it is like cigarette smoking.

In my case, for instance, I'd always smoked ultra-lights, three packs per day of them. I started out with 24 mg/ml e-liquids but found they weren't enough. So, for a while, I was on 36 mg/ml. But after I'd whacked myself upside the head with nicotine overdoses, I took it down to 24 mg/ml again. And since I've switched to VV or VW devices (Lavatube and Vamo), I've dropped it to 18 mg/ml e-liquids.

But that's just me. Your mileage may vary, and it probably will.

 

[feniks]

6mg is way too light IMO. I smoked PAD camel lights for almost 20 years. I vape with 18mg. Seems good too me. Don't get cravings. I think I will try to go down to 12mg eventually but 18mg has been working well for me so far.

I think I will throw in a 30mL bottle of 18mg flavor to my next order too ...
Used to smoke 1.5 packs of Camel Lights (Blue nowadays) ... still do actually LOL! I guess I really want to switch to vaping if I think I already stopped smoking haha, I have tricked my mind already LOL, funny

feniks, everyone's different -- you're not your co-worker. If you do inadvertenetly besmack yourself with a Vitamin-N overload, just wait a little while and the symptoms will pass. Then you'll know what your limits are.

Bear in mind that vaping is not anything like smoking! The only thing the two activities have in common is that they both enable you to ingest nicotine. And the nicotine hit from vaping is nothing like the one from smoking -- vaping is more akin to pipe smoking than it is like cigarette smoking.

In my case, for instance, I'd always smoked ultra-lights, three packs per day of them. I started out with 24 mg/ml e-liquids but found they weren't enough. So, for a while, I was on 36 mg/ml. But after I'd whacked myself upside the head with nicotine overdoses, I took it down to 24 mg/ml again. And since I've switched to VV or VW devices (Lavatube and Vamo), I've dropped it to 18 mg/ml e-liquids.

But that's just me. Your mileage may vary, and it probably will.

yeah, now I think that 6mg is way too low as well .. but I don't want 24mg ... nor 36mg ... that's sounds too drastic to me LOL. 12 & 18mg should do maybe over time 6mg will do with max voltage or something ... my goal is to limit nicotine a bit (by vaping that is) and leave no cigarette stench or ash behind me LOL.

I agree, that experience with vaping can and will vary from person to person. ordering 12mg sampler from vape dudes if I can get the 40% off code working (after their checkout resets at 1am EST), wil also throw in 2 bottles of some 18mg juice ... also trying to convert my wife to vaping as well ... I want to leave cigarettes behind in out household!

 

[Jaysin]

I think I will throw in a 30mL bottle of 18mg flavor to my next order too ...
Used to smoke 1.5 packs of Camel Lights (Blue nowadays) ... still do actually LOL! I guess I really want to switch to vaping if I think I already stopped smoking haha, I have tricked my mind already LOL, funny



yeah, now I think that 6mg is way too low as well .. but I don't want 24mg ... nor 36mg ... that's sounds too drastic to me LOL. 12 & 18mg should do maybe over time 6mg will do with max voltage or something ... my goal is to limit nicotine a bit (by vaping that is) and leave no cigarette stench or ash behind me LOL.

I agree, that experience with vaping can and will vary from person to person. ordering 12mg sampler from vape dudes if I can get the 40% off code working (after their checkout resets at 1am EST), wil also throw in 2 bottles of some 18mg juice ... also trying to convert my wife to vaping as well ... I want to leave cigarettes behind in out household!

Congrats on your decision. Yep camel blues. 18 works good for me. I do vape a good deal. Probably more than I used to smoke. My logic was that I wanted something strong enough to get rid of the cravings. I really wanted off the smokes. I figured after a few weeks I could drop it down. I haven't had any tobacco in 30 days now! Still on 18mg.

 

[feniks]

Congrats on your decision. Yep camel blues. 18 works good for me. I do vape a good deal. Probably more than I used to smoke. My logic was that I wanted something strong enough to get rid of the cravings. I really wanted off the smokes. I figured after a few weeks I could drop it down. I haven't had any tobacco in 30 days now! Still on 18mg.

grats on leaving smokes behind!

one last question, to anybody and everybody, what mixture are you using most commonly? so far I have 4 bottles of 80/20 (PG/VG) and for new order from vape dudes I selected similar (70/30 in that case), is that all right? somehow I see they say 50/50 is their standard, but my co-worker mentioned something about different than 80/20 or 70/30 ratios that summed up to being a potential problem sometimes (forgot why).

 

[Buggs5347]

Sometimes people are sensitive to PG or VG. Most often it's PG, so you may need lower or no PG. Perhaps that is what he was talking about.

 

[feniks]

Sometimes people are sensitive to PG or VG. Most often it's PG, so you may need lower or no PG. Perhaps that is what he was talking about.

yeah, read about that too ... hoping neither me nor my wife are allergic or sensitive to PG, because I just placed a big order with Vape Dudes (thanks for 40% off!!), 160mL of 70/30 juices ... 15 different natural flavors, mostly 11mg nicotine, but I included also 40mL of 16mg ...

I think what he meant was (if I recall correctly) that VG alone is thicker than PG or something among those lines and burns differently or sometimes not at all if voltage is too low or resistance of atomizer too high ... or something like that ... sorry can't remember correctly.

 

[feniks]

received ego c twist and 2.4 ohm clearomizer (vision 2.0) today, yay!

vaping Highbrow Cheesecake Torte 80/20 6mg nico now at 4.2V. in deed too low on nico as was said, I can tell because I tend to take 3-5 puffs every 10 minutes or so LOL, but it does taste good
with 11 or 16mg nicotine it should get more under control, at least for first few weeks.

amazing experience so far, I love it ... need to get another e-cig and convert my wife soon ...