E-Power and ohn's?

[jersey girl]

Hi,

I recently purchased an E-power 14650, 1050 mah, regulated 3.7v and use it with lr 1.7 ohm sc carto's. This set up vapes great for me.
But, I have been spoiled by a tank I use on my 808 ego. Love knowing how much juice is left or how much to fill.

There are clearomizer, fluxomizers, and several other clear carto's out there that I can use with my E-power.

What concerns me is the ohm ratings of 2.4 or 2.8. Would these damage my e-power?

What is the range of ohm's I can use with it?

By changeing ohm's how does it effect the vape?

I have tried to research this. But could not find anything that relates directly to my equipment.

Sorry noticed the ohn instead of ohm in title but could not edit.

 

[Jimi D.]

The higher the ohms, the less vapor it produces. It will not damage your batteries.

 

[Reidus]

Jersey,
You shouldn't use less than a 1.7ohm on the E-Power. I'm planning on using the 1.7s and the Boge 2.0 LRs (my kit comes in tomorrow. A sleepless night for me, lol.). Here's a down-and-dirty layman's explanation: the larger the difference between the ohm and volt, the more heat is generated. The more heat, the more vapor. Too much heat though, and you fry the carto (and possibly the battery as well). So, on a 3.7v device like the E-power, a 1.7ohm will create more heat and a warmer vapor than a 2.0. A 1.5 Dual coil will create a cooler vapor than either (Dual Coils effectively doubles the ohms; so they could be considered a 3.0 carto). A 1.5 single coil could fry your battery. As far as tanks, clearomizers, etc. go, talk to the folks at Crystal clear Vaping. He can set you straight on what would work.

 

[Off Topic]

The new moffsets on the epower are rated to handle 1.25ohms.

They had a lot of problems with the old ones. That's what I'm reading at CCV, anyway.

Crystal Clear Vaping

 

[jersey girl]

Reidus,

Thank you, that is really great to know. I will never use less then 1.7ohm.

Is both LR and SR ok?

 

[Off Topic]

You should have no problems, either way. The LR will give you more heat.

 

[xbassman]

Jersey,
You shouldn't use less than a 1.7ohm on the E-Power. I'm planning on using the 1.7s and the Boge 2.0 LRs (my kit comes in tomorrow. A sleepless night for me, lol.). Here's a down-and-dirty layman's explanation: the larger the difference between the ohm and volt, the more heat is generated. The more heat, the more vapor. Too much heat though, and you fry the carto (and possibly the battery as well). So, on a 3.7v device like the E-power, a 1.7ohm will create more heat and a warmer vapor than a 2.0. A 1.5 Dual coil will create a cooler vapor than either (Dual Coils effectively doubles the ohms; so they could be considered a 3.0 carto). A 1.5 single coil could fry your battery. As far as tanks, clearomizers, etc. go, talk to the folks at Crystal clear Vaping. He can set you straight on what would work.

I have seen this a couple of times today.
Actually your battery will see a 1.5 ohm single coil or dual coil the same. (as 1.5 ohms)
With the dual coil the voltage is split between 2 3 ohm coils.
Since the coils individually have a higher resistance they don't get as hot as a single 1.5 ohm coil would, but your battery can't tell the difference.

 

[Reidus]

I have seen this a couple of times today.
Actually your battery will see a 1.5 ohm single coil or dual coil the same. (as 1.5 ohms)
With the dual coil the voltage is split between 2 3 ohm coils.
Since the coils individually have a higher resistance they don't get as hot as a single 1.5 ohm coil would, but your battery can't tell the difference.

That's good to know. I'm an Accounting professor; I know next to nothing about electricity, so I just repeat what I'm told, lol.

 

[Reidus]

The new moffsets on the epower are rated to handle 1.25ohms.

They had a lot of problems with the old ones. That's what I'm reading at CCV, anyway.

Crystal Clear Vaping

This is also good to know. But will 3.7 volts fry the carto?

 

[AttyPops]

This is also good to know. But will 3.7 volts fry the carto?

Using what ohm carto? 2.0 ohm is about as low as most go with 3.7 volts (6.845 watts). Some push it to 1.7 ohms (8.05 watts).

So it won't fry it then. Going lower = burnt juice since it's too hot anyway.

That rating you're quoting (well, that he is quoting) is the electronic circuitry rating... not really important as long as it can handle the carto (which it can... it could even handle a 1.25 ohm per that quote... that's not to say you want to use a 1.25 ohm carto).

 

[sailorman]

You can safetly use 1.5ohm attys or cartos on your battery. The main problem with lower resistance coils is the current they draw, which can harm low mah batteries or switches not designed to handle the amperage draw. The other thing about LR coils is that, because they get hotter, they don't last as long. A 1050 battery, particularly a high drain battery, is perfectly fine with the amperage drawn by a LR coil.

There are only 2 formulas you really should know when dealing with resistances. Both of them are 3rd grade arithmetic.

First one relates to the watts. Watts = power = heat. (that's not one of the formulas). The more watts, the hotter the vape. Most juice vapes best between about 6 and 10 watts.

Watts = Voltage X Voltage / ohms.

example: 3.7V x 3.7V / 1.5ohms = 9.12 Watts. A little warm, but right in the "sweet spot" for a lot of juices.

The other formula is"

Volts / ohms = Amps.
This is where you find out how much strain you're putting on your battery.

3.7V / 1.5ohms = 2.47 Amps.

Some small batteries can't handle that much current (amp) draw.

If you use a 1.7 ohm carto instead, you're watts change to 8.05 at 2.18 Amps.

That is a pretty big change in Watts, but not much change in current. Any battery that can't handle 2.46 Amps probably can't handle 2.18 Amps either. So, the only real reason to use 1.7ohm instead of 1.5ohms is for a "cooler" vapor.

Don't even bother with a dual coil carto on a 3.7V device. A 1.5ohm dual coil is just two 3ohm coils in one housing. You might as well take two e-powers, tape them together, sitck a 3ohm carto on each one and vape them at the same time. You need at least a solid 4.5-5V for a dual coil to work well. If a single coil 3ohm carto doesn't give you a good vape on your PV, then a dual coil will only give you twice as much of it. So here's a third formula: 2 x crap = crap.

 

[Off Topic]

That's only true if you are trying for heat in the flavor. I like the high volume of cool vapor that 1.5DC produces. Depends on the flavor and the likes of the person using it.

I've run the smoktec mega dual coil on my provari. Much over 4v has the flavor hotter than I like.

But, really, if you are thinking of buying a $60 E Power, Spend another $20 and get a Lavatube, and this entire conversation becomes academic.

 

[sailorman]

That's only true if you are trying for heat in the flavor. I like the high volume of cool vapor that 1.5DC produces. Depends on the flavor and the likes of the person using it.

I've run the smoktec mega dual coil on my provari. Much over 4v has the flavor hotter than I like.

But, really, if you are thinking of buying a $60 E Power, Spend another $20 and get a Lavatube, and this entire conversation becomes academic.

I agree about the Lavatube, generally. At $75 for the new version, it's a deal but, right or wrong, the whole notion of VV is intimidating to a lot of people if no one is around to "hold their hand" so to speak.

But.... running a 1.5ohm DC on a 3.7V device is giving you two coils, each consuming 4.57 watts. If you account for loaded voltage, it could be as little as 3.8 watts. That's not cool, that's downright cold. Frankly, I'm surprised it's hot enough to vaporize at all. At least with 4V, it's 5.33 watts. That doesn't sound like much, but it makes a huge difference. People complained left and right that the first LTs wouldn't work with 1.5ohm DCs when, in fact, they provided 3.7 volts to a DC. So, if that's cool with you, more power to ya. But I think you're in a distinct minority.

 

[jersey girl]

Reidus,

Once you try both the 1.7 lr and 2.0 lr, on your e-power, I would be interested in knowing the difference in vape you experience.
I have 1.7 lr DC that came with my kit and 1.7 lr sc that I purchased seperately and see no difference in them at all.

In moving to a clear carto, I guess the only thing to do is try it now that I understand it won't harm my battery. I was hoping someone would come along that all ready did the trial and error on an e-power.

Thanks to all that replyed very helpful as always. Which is what I love about ecf, I no longer have to wing it.

 

[DaveP]

That's good to know. I'm an Accounting professor; I know next to nothing about electricity, so I just repeat what I'm told, lol.

As an accountant, you are good with tables. You'll like this link. Just find your ohms rating on the atty/carto and cross it to the closest entry to the voltage of your battery. Click the chart for a larger, more readable version.

Safe Power and Vaping Chart

7 to 8 watts is where most people find satisfaction. If you like 1.7 ohms, the 2.8 and 3 ohm attys will be cool and less flavorful to you at 3.7v.

 

[kingcobra]

Pretty cool table there, and that does jive with my own experiences. What you tend to get when you get in the pink is burnt juice, with some setups at least, and that's a tip that you might have things too cranked as well

 

[yzer]

I have used three different Smoktech LR cartomizers on the E-Power 14650. Mine is equipped with the latest switch module: good for as low as 1.5 ohm, regulated 3.7V and includes the 5-click switch safety.

-Smoktech single coil 1.7 ohm XL: The warmest of the three, lots of vapor.

-Smoktech single coil 2.0 ohm XL: Cooler than 1.7 ohm. Battery lasts noticeably longer. Actual difference between 1.7 ohm and 2.0 ohm single coil is 1.25 watts. Produces almost as much vapor as the 1.7 ohm. This is my favorite of the three and my go-to carto.

-Smoktech dual coil 1.5 ohm XL: Coolest of the three cartos, too cool for my taste. I suspect you really need a 4.2V or higher APV for this.

Smoktech makes flanged versions of these three cartos for use with Smoktech tanks. Some are available with a choice of either one or three holes. The three-hole cartos are provided for use with high percent VG juices.

 

[Reidus]

I've seen that table and yes, I enjoyed it very much ;-). Steeljan has a video that explains VV, LR, SR, etc. in a way that even an accountant like me understands. Here's the link.

Low Res, High Volts, 3.7V, 5V, VV? Wtf?!! - YouTube

Enjoy!

 

[jersey girl]

I have used three different Smoktech LR cartomizers on the E-Power 14650. Mine is equipped with the latest switch module: good for as low as 1.5 ohm, regulated 3.7V and includes the 5-click switch safety.

-Smoktech single coil 1.7 ohm XL: The warmest of the three, lots of vapor.

-Smoktech single coil 2.0 ohm XL: Cooler than 1.7 ohm. Battery lasts noticeably longer. Actual difference between 1.7 ohm and 2.0 ohm single coil is 1.25 watts. Produces almost as much vapor as the 1.7 ohm. This is my favorite of the three and my go-to carto.

-Smoktech dual coil 1.5 ohm XL: Coolest of the three cartos, too cool for my taste. I suspect you really need a 4.2V or higher APV for this.

Smoktech makes flanged versions of these three cartos for use with Smoktech tanks. Some are available with a choice of either one or three holes. The three-hole cartos are provided for use with high percent VG juices.

Yzer,
Glad you stopped by as I knew you own an e-power.
I was just thinking of switching to 2.0 ohm on my next order as I was hoping battery would last longer and carto's would not get a hot.

 

[Reidus]

Jersey, I'ver ordered the 2.0s. I'll let you know how they work. Yzer, will a Smoketech tank work on an E-power? Remember, the cone is different than the Kgo.