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I thought your comment was very understandable indeed Trog... and so it made me feel the need to add the (small) added outcome of the newest (afaik) contact with the doctor. What you do with that added small piece of info and whether it makes any difference at all for you as to the whole - that's up to you of course. Why would there be anything wrong with that?
Couldn't he have just given us a circuit diagram so we could try ourselves? Reminds me of the Pandora, a portable handheld Linux games computer, a project almost too good to be true, started in a garage or something and designed by a very small team, you just know it looks kewl but have doubts it will ever make it and turn into vaporware!! Luckily for Pandora, prototypes are out there and they are nearly ready for final release! Lets hope this device makes it that far!!
I think you make a good product at a fair price Trog, but comments like these are why I will never purchase anything from you!
It is a good idea, applying a pulse width modulated signal to the the atomizer at the resonant frequency of PG would excite the molecules making it easier to vaporize reducing power consumption and extending battery life. Using pulse width modulation also allows you to adjust the duty cycle for optimum atomizer temperature (no overheating, longer atomizer life) and would further reduce power consumption hence longer battery life. You could even just turn it on and smoke it auto shutoff after ~5min (approx time to smoke a cigarette). Although it would waste a lot of juice that way.
Not sure but it sound like he did not design the circuit, had it out sourced i would assume . If you want to build one just look in the datasheet for any micro controller capable of pulse width modulation, they will have examples of hardware and software.
Bingo!!! Now have a gold star
Tho .....ing about Trog after one post is a bit of a silly idea no?Bingo!!! Now have a gold star
Yeah I'll proly get flamed to hell, but it is meant as constructive criticism. I mean losing sales because of a big mouth is not the best business plan! I am a small business owner myself (not ecigs) and I just like to see the small guys succeed!
I would have to agree with this. I support nice constructive people. The Janty folk have always been very cordial, and that goes a long way. I hate to see Trog being such a debbie-downer about a new product that might compete with his.
Can someone give me a nice conclusion about this threat. I read first 10 pages, but can't understand what is it. A power pack and.... how it works?
I'm a little confused too but I skimmed through the entire thread. Basically I think is is a power pack with a usb passthrough, except the passthrough doesn't have a resistor so it sends more electricity through the atomizer, therefore creating more vapor and burning off buildup. I could be wrong about this though.
some people really dont understand do they...
i have not .....ed about a possible product that might damage SD sales.. people assume too much..
in the kindest possible way i was simply trying to put a lame dog to sleep..
the fools that are to stupid to be aware of my (good) intentions are simply keeping the poor thing alive and in its misery..
trog
i have not .....ed about a possible product that might damage SD sales.. people assume too much..
in the kindest possible way i was simply trying to put a lame dog to sleep..
the fools that are to stupid to be aware of my (good) intentions are simply keeping the poor thing alive and in its misery..
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Oh ffs give it a rest Trog - the thread will die when it's good and ready, it doesn't need any help from you.
and that's another SD sale you've just lost..............
and that's another SD sale you've just lost..............
it should have been closed long ago... take the trouble to read back a little and you will find i did suggest that.. this tread should be closed.. if it had have been it would disappear into the bloody archives where it belongs long ago..
joe.. please closed this redundant thread.. let it die gracefully.. only u or a moderator can..
and as i so often hear.. we are all entitled to our opinion.. this is simply mine..
seeing my reasons for wanting it closed so blatantly misunderstood saddens me..
trog
Although I am a noob here and don't have much credit, I rather enjoyed this tread and look forward to see where it goes. Using pulse modulation to power the atomizers is ground breaking stuff and I applaud Doc's efforts. Our society thrives on invention and people who just won't accept the crap they keep feeding us. Secondly I see no damage in leaving this tread open to see where it goes. This thread is a work in progress and progress doesn't happen over night.
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Why? Who is it hurting?
How is it redundant? I only see one thread on this topic. So what are your reasons then? Don't be sad, it is not our fault you can not express yourself in an understandable way.
Now back to PWM.
Atomizer failure is due to heat, they are designed to operate at temperatures of 180-200 deg.C. Now I have noticed more than once atomizers glow bright cherry red to almost orange. This is indicative of temperatures in the 825-1000 deg.C range. Anything operating this far out of its design specs is going to fail prematurely.
So if we can controll the maximum temprature of the atomizer via reduced duty cycle, the atomizer should last indefinitely longer.
Atomizer failure is due to heat, they are designed to operate at temperatures of 180-200 deg.C. Now I have noticed more than once atomizers glow bright cherry red to almost orange. This is indicative of temperatures in the 825-1000 deg.C range. Anything operating this far out of its design specs is going to fail prematurely.
So if we can controll the maximum temprature of the atomizer via reduced duty cycle, the atomizer should last indefinitely longer.
i can (and probably have) to those to with a little wisdom and technical knowledge..
to the rest who choose to believe in whatever science fiction techno babel is placed before them i cant.. or at least i tried not to..
why not start your own thread on the topic...
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