Easiest RTA for newbs?

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Desert Fox

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If you're a newb into building coils and wicking, I would recommend doing it on RDAs first, since there is more leeway for building coils and wicking on them. With RTAs if you don't wick it right, it will leak for most of them.

However, if you really want to start with RTAs, I would avoid getting the Griffin or any Geekvape products for that matter, since it seems to be the new in thing for recommendations. They are poor in quality and quite a few members here have experienced leaking and stripped screws.
 

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Nope... not at all.

First, $30 is not bad for a top of the line RTA.

Second, I recommend starting with a kayfun, a Lemo, or a Kanger Subtank Mini with its RBA.



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Nope tge Kayfun is not adjudtsblr unless you drill out the airflow.

Since you want easy AND adjustable; you are looking for the Subtank Mini with tge RBA installed.
If you just want something cheap and easy to build:
KANGER SUBTANK Mini – VAPEHAPPY
RDAs and RTAs are like potato chips, more than likely you'll want to try several.
me too! very easy to wick and virtually leak proof. if the op needs more air, then the serpent by wotofo.
+1 for the subtank mini & RBA base!
The subtank mini is fairly easy to build on. I just got the griffin 25 and its a ton easier to build on. Anything with a velocity style deck will be stupid easy to build on

Just curious, but why do you guys keep recommending the Subtank Mini while it has been replaced with the very similar Toptank mini for some time now?

Do you all think the old Subtank is better than a Toptank?

Because from what I gather they're identical except for the top-fill on the Toptank, which makes it a more logical tank to recommend to a newbie imo.
 

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Just curious, but why do you guys keep recommending the Subtank Mini while it has been replaced with the very similar Toptank mini for some time now?

Do you all think the old Subtank is better than a Toptank?

Because from what I gather they're identical except for the top-fill on the Toptank, which makes it a more logical tank to recommend to a newbie imo.
Good question. I love the toptanks, very easy and have used the RBA without problems. Do have a subtank coming, but only bought because it was so cheap.
 

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If you're a newb into building coils and wicking, I would recommend doing it on RDAs first, since there is more leeway for building coils and wicking on them. With RTAs if you don't wick it right, it will leak for most of them.

However, if you really want to start with RTAs, I would avoid getting the Griffin or any Geekvape products for that matter, since it seems to be the new in thing for recommendations. They are poor in quality and quite a few members here have experienced leaking and stripped screws.
Oh the bottom airflow RDAs like Freakshow Mini, Nova 22, derringer etc never leak?

I lived and hated the freakshow Mini.

Loved it for flavor.
Hated it for running out the airflow every time my Atty leaned over.

It was the freakshow Mini leaking that. Forced me into using the. Rogue.
 
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Oh the bottom airflow RDAs like Freakshow Mini, Nova 22, derringer etc never leak?

I lived and hated the freakshow Mini.

Loved it for flavor.
Hated it for running out the airflow every time my Atty leaned over.

It was the freakshow Mini leaking that. Forced me into using the. Rogue.

I never used those RDAs, so I don't know. RDAs usually don't leak unless it's overfilled, there is more leeway to how it's also wicked. With RTAs, if the wicking is wrong, it will leaked.
 

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Just curious, but why do you guys keep recommending the Subtank Mini while it has been replaced with the very similar Toptank mini for some time now?

Do you all think the old Subtank is better than a Toptank?

Because from what I gather they're identical except for the top-fill on the Toptank, which makes it a more logical tank to recommend to a newbie imo.

Two reasons.

1. I have used tge Subtank series of attys, and build the STM RBA for my sister.

2. Every top filled Tank or RTA i have used so far has PEED (leaked) on me.

Lemo 2
Bellus
Kayfun Mini V3
Goblin Mini V2
Bachelor Nano
And others.

People have seen me Rave about tge Goblin Mini of Silverplay Nano.

I don't recommend the v2.

I wrote a nice review of the Kayfun Mini V3 but the next morning Juice was all over The counter. If leaked because of the weak O rings On the drip tip. I like the V3 buf i have to close the Juice Control when i set it aside for my daily vape.

I want to vape my ejuice instead of wear of waste it.

Top fill is a good idea buf having a vacuum in a top filled Tank or RTA IS CRITICAl!

Until they work out the bugs in top fill i will stick to and recommend bottom filled attys.
 

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I never used those RDAs, so I don't know. RDAs usually don't leak unless it's overfilled, there is more leeway to how it's also wicked. With RTAs, if the wicking is wrong, it will leaked.

Fair enough but what happens when you drip to vape and you are called to tge phone even though you are on a smoke break?

I will take an RTA every trip of the train


Besides after re wicking a few times one learns proper wicking techniques.

My daily vape is a Fasttech Kayfun Monster Mini V3, and I carry it lying down on the side in my pocket, and I have for months first with the eVic VTC Mini, Mini Volt, and now the Istick Pico. Over all oc the months i have vsped it; it may have leaked 2-3 drops and that was because vi had not tighened the tank correctly after a new wick.
 

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    Just curious, but why do you guys keep recommending the Subtank Mini while it has been replaced with the very similar Toptank mini for some time now?

    Do you all think the old Subtank is better than a Toptank?

    Because from what I gather they're identical except for the top-fill on the Toptank, which makes it a more logical tank to recommend to a newbie imo.
    I don't recommend the Top Tank because they don't include a spare glass or spare o-rings. The RBA was changed to smaller holes higher off the deck.
     

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    Kayfuns don't have adjustable airflow because they don't move enough air to keep a canary alive to begin with.

    For a first RTA I don't think the SXK Wine can be beat for ease but the air isn't adjustable. It has pretty good air but slightly tight. But as a tank to learn on its great. Easy and leak free and very forgiving of wicking.

    I wouldn't over think the first cause the second and third follow quickly.
     
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    Kayfuns don't have adjustable airflow because they don't move enough air to keep a canary alive to begin with.

    For a first RTA I don't think the SXK Wine can be beat for ease but the air isn't adjustable. It has pretty good air but slightly tight. But as a tank to learn on its great. Easy and leak free and very forgiving of wicking.

    I wouldn't over think the first cause the second and third follow quickly.

    The SXK is nice but i found the airflow of the Nebula Wine quite sufficient.

    Mine had more airflow than either the Kayfun Monster Mini V3, of Silverplay Nano.

    Mg only problem with the Nebula Wine was the whistle
     

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    The SXK is nice but i found the airflow of the Nebula Wine quite sufficient.

    Mine had more airflow than either the Kayfun Monster Mini V3, of Silverplay Nano.

    Mg only problem with the Nebula Wine was the whistle

    It's not a perfect tank, none are, but for easy it's tought to beat. Plus the 5ml is a lot of juice!!

    I rarely use mine but my wife loves hers. Different strokes and all that.

    I have a Merlin on the way so opinions are subject to change. I'm a four post guy but can't deny velocity decks are simple.
     

    Two_Bears

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    It's not a perfect tank, none are, but for easy it's tought to beat. Plus the 5ml is a lot of juice!!

    I rarely use mine but my wife loves hers. Different strokes and all that.

    I have a Merlin on the way so opinions are subject to change. I'm a four post guy but can't deny velocity decks are simple.

    I don't give a hoot about the architecture of the deck Kayfun, 2 Post, 3 Post or 4 Post.

    All i really care about is flavor.
     

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    I want something with easily adjustable airflow so is a kayfun really what I'm looking for? The tfv4 RTA is $20 and the rda for the tfv4 nano tank is $12 I might as well get the tfv4 RTA if I'm going that route right?
    You will find it a little easier to build on a RTA with the larger build deck than on the smaller rba decks. The TFRTA or RDTA with the Velocity style deck are easy to build on as is the Griffin or Griffin 25.
     

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    If you're a newb into building coils and wicking, I would recommend doing it on RDAs first, since there is more leeway for building coils and wicking on them. With RTAs if you don't wick it right, it will leak for most of them.

    However, if you really want to start with RTAs, I would avoid getting the Griffin or any Geekvape products for that matter, since it seems to be the new in thing for recommendations. They are poor in quality and quite a few members here have experienced leaking and stripped screws.
    I haven't had any problems with the new Griffin 25, Tsunami or the TF RDTA. No stripped screws and only leaking if the wicking is not sufficient. I don't find building on an actual RTA any different than building on an RDA. All will leak if the wicking is not correct. Bonus with the RTA is you don't have to drip or forget to drip and suffer the dry burn dragon vape. Also on the RTAs with adjustable Juiceflow and airflow you can dial in the vape you want.
     
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