I am vaping 7 leaf Hopscotch now and maybe there is a slight floral flavor, but I guess I like it because it helps complete the flavor profile. I think this is one of the more interesting juices I've tried at ECBlend, or really ever. It's very mello and nice, good evening vape.
I order all ECblend juices with extra flavor, but never double any of the individual flavors in a complex juice. I don't think they do this very well and the people who try this often are disappointed in what they get. The RY4 on it's own with no extra flavor, is very, very good and I'm really an RY4 head. I definitely get no floral flavor in this custom juice, caramel should be the star with the blend.
I absolutely agree Lombaowski. When I first got my ECB RY4 it was caramel heaven. I'm a caramel fiend btw.
I would actually argue (as a personal preference) that I prefer 7 Leaf Hopscotch as a morning vape since it is so very smooth. I need a smooth non-harsh vape earlier in the day to kind of prime myself for the stronger vapes later in the day.
Anyway... One of the orders I had placed in the past few months was RY4 with Extra caramel, no extra flavor. It started off great, and has mostly only gotten better. After my initial 10ml bottle it became my ADV, and I ordered a 125ml bottle. I think I've probably got around 20 - 30ml left (I vape lots of different juices during the course of 24 hours). Over the past month the flavor has changed though.
At first it was heavy caramel, which I really enjoyed and I could vape it right out of the box. But as time went on it got even more caramel flavored, which I thought was odd, though not unpleasant. So I placed an order for their RY4 with extra flavor and extra tobacco, thinking I might mix the 30ml bottle of XFx2 I got with what was left of the 125ml bottle I still had.
Now I'm not quite so stupid as to mix the two without a test. So I put around 5ml of my extra caramel bottle into an Innokin iCan with about 1ml of the extra flavor extra tobacco to see how they would mix and left it to sit for a couple weeks. I've got enough different juices, and a huge bottle of RY4, to hold me over. Some of those other juices though have been fighting the RY4 w/ extra caramel for my ADV (damn you Niquid Soho). Considering how much juice I've got, I didn't have to worry about the steep time.
Even mixing pre-steeped juices you still need to give it time to mix.
Anyway...
I had the RY4 extra caramel that I have come to love, with the extra tobacco that I just wasn't sure about...
I basically wasted the RY4 extra caramel.
When I loaded a clearo with the RY4 mix I also loaded up another (both iClear 16s) with the extra flavor extra tobacco juice so I could get a clean taste of the juice I wanted to mix with the one I already loved.
Even after letting both sit for a over a month, the floral notes were still HUGE, even more so in the XFx2 obviously. I have to say I've noticed this with a lot of ECBs tobacco blends. 7 Leaf Hopscotch I can still taste it in to a degree, but again, it's not so much the floral flavor that comes through but a uh... powdery... consistency... Man I really wish there was a better way to convey that in a vape.
And please, don't get me wrong. I LOVE 7 Leaf Hopscotch. I've got it sitting in 3 different tanks right now, and my bottle is getting low. Next time I place an order, I'm getting a 125ml bottle of it. I can't see my vaping arsenal lacking the 7 Leaf Hopscotch. It's just too damn tasty. Though tasty as it is, it has some issues, for me at least.
I will also still order ECBs RY4. It's part of the Triumvirate of ECB juices I will never be without. For me it's 7 Leaf Hopscotch, RY4, and Caramel Machiato (just avoid adding the sweet cream, makes it taste like a good coffee with spoiled milk to me).
Anyway, back to the topic at hand...
The intense floral flavor doesn't excuse ECBs tobacco juices.
I've let 2 other tobacco juices from ECB sit for well over a month, and both are so incredibly floral it tastes like I'm eating flowers.
One is Cuban Gold. This is a flavor that I had previously mixed with berry flavors to try and recreate a berry cigar when I was still using analogs. And when I made that custom flavor, it was great. But as my taste buds healed, it got worse and worse. So I ordered a 15ml bottle of Cuban Gold thinking that either I was going to love it, or hate it.
Guess what. I hated it. Again, that floral taste in a straight tobacco flavor was, and still is even after almost 2 months of steeping, so overwhelming it's hard to ignore.
I also ordered a 5ml bottle of Cuban Sunset. This, I think, was a blend of strawberry (could be wrong) with cuban gold.
Again, incredibly floral even after a month of steeping, but not nearly as bad as the Cuban Gold.
Thus finally brings me to the point I originally tried to make.
ECBlends has some incredibly awesome juices. I haven't found a vendor that quite matches what they can produce, so long as it isn't a tobacco flavor.
Thus they aren't perfect. Their tobacco flavors seem to use flower extracts to try and replicate a tobacco flavor.
Other vendors have come closer to a tobacco flavor without resorting to using floral extracts. This is where it hurts ECB.
And again, don't get me wrong, ECB has some amazing juice, even in the tobacco line like the 7 Leaf Hopscotch. It would just be nice if they were to... sad to say... grow a pair and produce their own tobacco line, ditching the whole perfume floral idea in the process. I'm sure it would be great with the other flavorings they have available.
im hoping for some insight. Appreciate any help. 
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