ecigs/ vaping "just as bad for you"

[Hey.al]

Hello, new to forums, this is my 2nd post . I was so excited that I had quit smoking cigarettes and am feeling so much better until i went to the doctor for a regular checkup. When the nurse asked me if i am a smoker i happily said "nope, switched to ecigs". She looked at me and said "your still a smoker". I got into a debate with her because i have done a little research and from what ive read, it is definitly healthier for you! I guess my question is, has anyone done more research than me and found some actual scientific literature on the subject? I would love to arm myself with actual scientific fact rather than "well i read this online".

 

[KayJO]

I told my doctor and she said "That's great". Doctors and others need to be educated in vaping. I think that will come with more and more info on it and us educating.

 

[TFL!]

Go to CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association and look around that site. They have a lot of info.

 

[Aawa]

Not everybody is educated on e-cigarettes. People still think that e-cigarettes are still smoking because you are inhaling foreign materials into your lungs to get a nicotine transfer.

CASAA has some really good information. Also I recently watched a video on youtube from a scientist that has been studying e-cigarettes for the last 4+ years, and smoking for over 10+ years. I wish I could find the link to post as she made some great points.

No personally, I think the healthiest thing is to just not inhale vapor or smoke into your body. But everybody has their vice and I would much rather vape than smoke.

 

[tj99959]

You need to understand that right now we are on the eve of FDA deeming regulations, and every special interest group out there is trying to stake out their territory. So there is more misinformation floating around than you can shake a stick at, and it's no wonder that folks (health care providers included) are a little confused right now.

There have actually been quite a few peer reviewed published studies (all of them positive), but it is easy for them to get lost in all the media hype.

 

[CMartin]

Hello, new to forums, this is my 2nd post . I was so excited that I had quit smoking cigarettes and am feeling so much better until i went to the doctor for a regular checkup. When the nurse asked me if i am a smoker i happily said "nope, switched to ecigs". She looked at me and said "your still a smoker". I got into a debate with her because i have done a little research and from what ive read, it is definitly healthier for you! I guess my question is, has anyone done more research than me and found some actual scientific literature on the subject? I would love to arm myself with actual scientific fact rather than "well i read this online".

Look, to many people 'smoking' is a synonym for addiction to nicotine. Simple as that. You are still addicted to nicotine. Nicotine is bad for you. Not as bad as many other things, but it's still bad. It's a fact. Proven time and over again. Vapeing is just less damaging to your health. Much less damaging, but still it's not healthy by itself. Don't be mad at the nurse. Translate her remark "you are still a smoker" to "you are still feeding your nicotine addiction." The rest is semantics.

 

[skoony]

depending how the hospital or clinic you go to is set up they could be getting additional funding
depending on the amount of smokers that use there facilities through grants or other government
funding mechanism's,or private and non-profit funding.
regards
mike

 

[Lurch]

Recently visited my Doctor for my regular check up. He asked if I was still smoking. I told him that I had begun vaping. He was very supportive! He admitted that he had not done any substantial research on the topic, but believed it had to be better than smoking!
I love having a Doctor that is supportive and willing to look into things versus immediately dismissing new ideas....

 

[Bunnykiller]

so I guess having a glass of wine with dinner makes me an alcholic?? so in effect, they dont see it as reducing the potential of the associated harm smoking creates by switching over to a method that is healthier.... ya just cant win can ya?

 

[djsvapour]

You're not still a smoker. end of story....

The fact someone thinks you are and wants to argue that point/definition is a bit mad, or prejudiced.

 

[YKruss]

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Nicotine is bad for you. Not as bad as many other things, but it's still bad. It's a fact. Proven time and over again. Vapeing is just less damaging to your health. Much less damaging, but still it's not healthy by itself.

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I would like to know why nicotine is bad.

 

[Timactionfigures]

How can a person who doesn't inhale smoke be a smoker?!

That there is all the scientific FACT you will ever need!

 

[DetraMental]

All my doctors are supportive of vaping and none consider me to be a smoker. I don't know why the nurse said what she did. I've actually been told by my docs to go out and tell all smokers about my success with vaping!

 

[Vermonster13]

Declarative statements like "nicotine is bad for you" from a person with 14 posts always make me shiver. So much misinformation among vapers, it's not hard to see how confused nonvapers can be.

 

[CMartin]

I would like to know why nicotine is bad.

Besides being addictive, it constricts your blood vessels, increases your blood pressure.

 

[schleppcar]

In my opinion - a glass of wine with dinner wouldn't make me an alcoholic - my own definition of 'addiction' is when something I habitually did to gain pleasure turned into something I am compelled to do to avoid pain. I am absolutely addicted to nicotine because I get irritable, anxious and generally don't feel that great if I don't have any. I don't like feeling that way so I smoked cigarettes. Vaping - or smoking vaporized ejuice, is just a less harmful way of delivering the nicotine to me. I thank God for these things - because I hated smoking and hated the need I had to do it. No one wants to be enthralled. But at least it's less harmful (or at least seems to be right now) to me than cigarette smoking, less offensive (odor, smoke, staining etc) and makes me feel like I'm doing SOMETHING to get away from cigarettes! Sure it's smoking - but instead of burning plants and paper I'm burning oil. The vapor produced isn't as lasting as pipe or cigarette smoke - I'm not dropping butts on the ground, or in ashtrays but I'm certainly doing the same thing. I'm vaporizing something to feed myself nicotine. Don't get me wrong - I love these things and absolutely feel they're an amazing and fantastic alternative to cigarettes ... but I'm not offended if someone calls me a smoker. Not at all. My addiction is less harmful than many others and NOW I've reduced its impact on the people around me and to myself. I'm proud to vape. It's a damn good step in the right direction - call me what you will. Smoker, vaper, nic addict - whatever. I'm not offended because I'm NOT smoking stinking cigarettes and NOTHING will diminish that accomplishment for me.

 

[CMartin]

Declarative statements like "nicotine is bad for you" from a person with 14 posts always make me shiver. So much misinformation among vapers, it's not hard to see how confused nonvapers can be.

Good thinking. You got me. If you remember to ask your doctor about nicotine side effects and consequences, tell him he knows nothing; 'cause he isn't ECF member. How else would he know ?

 

[Vermonster13]

You're not burning anything or smoking anything.

 

[DetraMental]

Besides being addictive, it constricts your blood vessels, increases your blood pressure.

I don't know if nicotine is as addictive as all that since I still craved cigarettes for the first 6 months of vaping at 18mg. What I mean is that I was getting my nicotine so why was I still craving those cigarettes.. It seems I was addicted to something else in them there sticks. I'm now at 6mg of nic and plan on going lower, Hmmmm. Secondly you are correct that nicotine does cause constriction of blood vessels and increases one's bp but this is temporary and does go away once the nicotine leaves the blood stream.

 

[Sue1971]

Sooooo, um what if someone vapes 0mg nicotine??? are they still a "smoker"

I Do not smoke anymore, I VAPE, I am working on getting to 0mg nic. And I just may continue to vape, because I enjoy it