ECOpure Rich, RIP... any alternatives?

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Excellent, this is exactly what I was looking for. I hope the flavor is right. On the main page they also talk about reformulating to create a more "rich" taste.... hopefully, it's not as extreme as what Intellicig has done.

"ULTRApure e-liquid is made in the USA with pure vegetable glycerin, 99+% pure nicotine,
and the purest ingredients available. ULTRApure e-liquid does not contain candy oils,
sugars, or fruit flavorings.
"

Congrats! :thumb: Hopefully it will be close to the original.
 

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foobar, how close is Malty from BWB to the original? I have Malty, but I never got a chance to try the original. Is the original as thick as Malty? VG, depending on several factors, can be thin, somewhat thick, and thick as molasses--BWB Malty is thick as molasses!

I've not tried BWB. They don't mix 100 VG.
 

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BwB Malty Toffee is the clone. It's very similar... and in no way a downgrade. great juice.
One of the all time top 10 for me.

It has a higher VG ratio than bwb's other juices... but it does still have significant PG...

as far as an all vg juice? I would look at Caramel Tobacco from Bluemist... there are a few reviews of it in youtube... it prompted me to try a while back and I am glad I did... not as "rich" at single flavor, but a quality and inexpensive juice
 
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Want2Vape's "Pure" is definitely not a clone. I think it tastes like their atty cleaner liquid with a little bit more sweetness. Cleans the atomizer but not very delicious.

If that's the case I should vape some of the atty cleaner :D I haven't had the straight PURE, but the PURE Smoke is like Malty (from BWB) tobacco to me. The non-tobacco half of it is like Malty on steroids to my toung, same sweetness but stronger. Plays well with the leathery, smoky tobacco. It's a juice I love, but not one I'd recommend to many.

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BwB Malty Toffee is the clone. It's very similar... and in no way a downgrade. great juice.
One of the all time top 10 for me.

It has a higher VG ratio than bwb's other juices... but it does still have significant PG...

as far as an all vg juice? I would look at Caramel Tobacco from Bluemist... there are a few reviews of it in youtube... it prompted me to try a while back and I am glad I did... not as "rich" at single flavor, but a quality and inexpensive juice

Now way! I did not know that. Now, I will say that I like both the Maltys but Malty Toffee is a sinister-ly awesome juice. That juice does not make me wish I had tried the "original' or anything like that because it is fine on its own.
 

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Excellent, this is exactly what I was looking for. I hope the flavor is right. On the main page they also talk about reformulating to create a more "rich" taste.... hopefully, it's not as extreme as what Intellicig has done.

"ULTRApure E-Liquid is made in the USA with pure vegetable glycerin, 99+% pure nicotine,
and the purest ingredients available. ULTRApure E-Liquid does not contain candy oils,
sugars, or fruit flavorings.
"

I would suggest trying this sample pack. http://www.innovapor.com/ultrapure-e-liquid/ultrapure-e-liquid-3ml-6-pack/

You can test different flavor and strengths, etc.
 

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Yo guys got me hungry. Just made up a low nic Chai tea with backwoods brew Malty and some Bavarian Creme. No steeping needed but of course it can and will, maybe...only made 3 MLs. Love "going to the store" in my own kitchen and making juice for dimes to the dollar. And....I have toffee I've never tried. So Malty and Toffee are next. Couldn't you get 100% VG nic base and flavor your own?
 

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No. I don't think so. I think he misread some things

Really? I just went to WizardLabs and the description for Ethyl Maltol is "an aroma of spun sugar or cotton candy". That's exactly how I remember Malty. Says it can give a sweetening effect without adding actual sweetness like sugar or sucralose. Has my attention.

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I would suggest trying this sample pack. http://www.innovapor.com/ultrapure-e-liquid/ultrapure-e-liquid-3ml-6-pack/

You can test different flavor and strengths, etc.

E-mailed Innov regarding my search for a new flavor and they promptly responded with,

"We currently do not have a flavor that has the caramel flavor like
ECOpure Rich. We are in the process of developing a flavor that will
have a similar caramel flavor. It will be called Royal and should be
available soon."

+1 for customer service.
 

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Yes, VG nic and dissolving the EM crystals in VG should get you there.

Okay, time to take it up a notch! I started searching around for ECOPure +EM and found several links of people attempting to mimmic this amazing flavor.

Ethyl Maltol
Caramel Popcorn and "Pirated Pure" diy recipes

Relevant snippets,

"My daily vape I call "Pirated Pure" due to it's my homebrew copy of a UK VG liquid.

Start with Ethyl Maltol Crystals 1/4 tsp to 9ml Everclear, shake until dissolved. ( again I like strong, can adjust here. 1/4 to 10ml is the average recipe I've seen)

Makes 20ml of 8mg
4.4 ml of 36mg VG nic liquid
12.6 ml of my VG mix listed above (80/20 vg and distilled water)
3ml of the Ethyl Maltol/Everclear mix
( this is at 15%. You can add a few more drops if you want it stronger)"

This sounds like a good start. Any hints of adding a _VERY_ light hint of tobacco? ECOPure Rich definitely has more than just EM in it. I suspect it's some form of tobacco flavoring as this was advertised on Intelli's site. However, it's very very subtle.

I'd be very interested in attempting to brew my own. If the community can help me narrow down some ingredients to start with I'd definitely explorer this possibility. Need to stop vaping my ECOPure Rich to make sure I have enough left to compare it to my batches!!
 

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Very cool Foobar. I can't help since I've never had Rich or have any diy experience, but I'll be curious if you can come up with a satisfactory clone.

Last night was the first time I looked through WizardLabs flavors since I plan on buying some unflavored from them, and might pick up a couple concentrates to alter my bought juices. So far Ethyl Maltol, Koolada, and Tobacco Absolute are on my list. I 'm most excited about the EM to try to make my own Malty Tobacco with a premade NET.

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