That is not an Intellicig eliquid. It is one that Intellicig-usa now sells, but who makes it? Not Intellicig. Intellicig continues to make EcoPure, but no longer export it to the USA.
ECOpure Rich, RIP... any alternatives?
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That is not an Intellicig eliquid. It is one that Intellicig-usa now sells, but who makes it? Not Intellicig. Intellicig continues to make EcoPure, but no longer export it to the USA.
The ECOvape Rich is nothing like ECOpure Rich. Whoever is making it for them is completely off the mark in flavor and probably has never tasted ECOpure Rich. The flavor that they seem to be focused on is tobacco and it should be the Ethol Maltol, which is now non-existent. I have never tasted tobacco in ECOpure Rich. I'm not sure if they are trying to replicate ECOpure Rich or not.
Check out the color difference in the juice. Cignots Basic Sweet Naked is closer to the color and taste by far. Take a look at the color of ECOvape Rich, you can see the dark color is from all the tobacco flavoring they have added to it.
Check out the color difference in the juice. Cignots Basic Sweet Naked is closer to the color and taste by far. Take a look at the color of ECOvape Rich, you can see the dark color is from all the tobacco flavoring they have added to it.
Is that it that EcoVape is off from EcoPure is that EcoVape is off and not very tasty?
ECOvape is off and not very tasty to me. I don't like tobacco juices but loved ECOpure probably because it didn't taste like tobacco to me. I could smell the tobacco scent coming out of the ECOvape box when I opened it, it's that strong.
If you are looking for ECOpure, EVOvape is not the answer, at least not yet. I'm hoping their goal is to replicate ECOpure Rich.
Thanks for such an honest answer. I really appreciate how you conveyed your opinion. I am looking into a way to get some EcoPure. We shall see...
You are welcome. I spent $75 on 3 bottles of ECOvape Rich because I thought it was only a name change. I was floored when I received this stuff. Intellicig USA then sent me 3 replacement bottles of their second try of the reformulation and it too was no better. I sent them an email yesterday letting them know how far away they are, I'm awaiting a response.
I'm in the same boat. I don't know anyone outside the US that will ship me ECOpure. If you find a way please let us know and I will do the same.
Well at least it seems they know they are off the mark. PM coming in...
I was looking into this recently, as I've been needing to get back to using 100% VG e-liquids. I've been using PG/VG blends for awhile, primarily using various Vaperite tobacco flavors, but Vaperite's e-liquids are harsh on my ECHO clearomizers and cartomizers (lots of performance robbing buildup). My first thought was to go get some of AVE's Boba's Bounty, which has been pretty good stuff in the past for me, but their website is having all kinds of issues. For the most part, you can't get anything reliably from Alien Visions right now. In fact, most of the time their website is "closed", which is annoying, but hopefully they will get past that growing pain - eventually. A shame, as they have some good all VG e-liquids, which is what they specialize in.
So, I've been looking around for other options. I've tried Intellicig's ECOpure Rich in the past and was alright with it. It ran particularly well in all my e-cigarette gear without gumming up the works, which was a nice plus in their favor. I hate replacing cartomizers and clearomizers all the time. That gets expensive. Now I see things have changed up with Intellicig USA and their e-liquid formulations, which might be a good thing for those of us that wanted a bit more tobacco flavor, or maybe not? Either way, their e-liquids are still pricey, so I didn't really want to take a chance on them right now until I see more reviews online. So far, the reviews are very mixed.
In the meantime, I see that Rize Vapor has got ECOvape in a variety of flavors (more so than on Intellicig's site), and what they offer appears to be cheaper, though they also still offer a multiple bottle purchase discount. They also have some all VG tobacco flavors of their own (as well as fruity and menthol stuff), so I just put in an order with them for 4 different 10ml samples. With shipping that came out to less than $27, which is not bad. I ordered some of their RiZe Flue Cured and RiZeTurkish Gold, as well as their ECOvape RICH and ECOvape DARK RICH, all in 16mg nicotine strength. On their website those are all well reviewed, but I don't think that necessarily means much. I don't actually see much in the way of RiZe e-liquid reviews online (other than from Vapenstein), though I know they've been around for years.
I will review these flavors after they come in and steep awhile, posting the results here. Of course, I don't expect any of these to have that malty taste element to them, but I could be wrong on that. ECOpure RICH was always just a so-so tasting e-liquid to me anyway, but I did like how clean tasting and running it was. When I did use it in the past, more often than not I would use it as a base to add other, more tobacco-like tasting e-liquids to. That worked out fairly well, but the cost of doing that was just a bit to "rich" for my blood, so I had to find other alternatives. I'm looking forward to trying out the RiZe stuff, as well as the new ECOvape formulations. I hope they run well in my equipment. They are certainly cheaper to buy from Rize Vapor compared to purchasing them from Intellicig USA, so that'll be pretty cool if the flavors and performance workout for me. I'll be happy if even if only one of the flavors works out for me.
Have any of you had any previous experience with RiZe e-liquids? If so, what did you think?
So, I've been looking around for other options. I've tried Intellicig's ECOpure Rich in the past and was alright with it. It ran particularly well in all my e-cigarette gear without gumming up the works, which was a nice plus in their favor. I hate replacing cartomizers and clearomizers all the time. That gets expensive. Now I see things have changed up with Intellicig USA and their e-liquid formulations, which might be a good thing for those of us that wanted a bit more tobacco flavor, or maybe not? Either way, their e-liquids are still pricey, so I didn't really want to take a chance on them right now until I see more reviews online. So far, the reviews are very mixed.
In the meantime, I see that Rize Vapor has got ECOvape in a variety of flavors (more so than on Intellicig's site), and what they offer appears to be cheaper, though they also still offer a multiple bottle purchase discount. They also have some all VG tobacco flavors of their own (as well as fruity and menthol stuff), so I just put in an order with them for 4 different 10ml samples. With shipping that came out to less than $27, which is not bad. I ordered some of their RiZe Flue Cured and RiZeTurkish Gold, as well as their ECOvape RICH and ECOvape DARK RICH, all in 16mg nicotine strength. On their website those are all well reviewed, but I don't think that necessarily means much. I don't actually see much in the way of RiZe e-liquid reviews online (other than from Vapenstein), though I know they've been around for years.
I will review these flavors after they come in and steep awhile, posting the results here. Of course, I don't expect any of these to have that malty taste element to them, but I could be wrong on that. ECOpure RICH was always just a so-so tasting e-liquid to me anyway, but I did like how clean tasting and running it was. When I did use it in the past, more often than not I would use it as a base to add other, more tobacco-like tasting e-liquids to. That worked out fairly well, but the cost of doing that was just a bit to "rich" for my blood, so I had to find other alternatives. I'm looking forward to trying out the RiZe stuff, as well as the new ECOvape formulations. I hope they run well in my equipment. They are certainly cheaper to buy from Rize Vapor compared to purchasing them from Intellicig USA, so that'll be pretty cool if the flavors and performance workout for me. I'll be happy if even if only one of the flavors works out for me.
Have any of you had any previous experience with RiZe e-liquids? If so, what did you think?
I have spoken with the vendor about the liquids, and I meant to get some (I forgot), but I have yet to try them.
Are you guys still interested in getting ECOpure Rich from UK? I just checked their list of countries that they ship to and I see that United States is not on the list (BOOOOOOOOOO!), but Germany is (if you can say "höchstgeschwindigkeitsbegrenzung" in German correctly three times, you get a free bottle of ECOpure Rich. Just kidding 
). I have a friend in Germany. I can buy it from here and have them send it to Germany and then my friend can send it here.
It seems like a lot of jumping through hoops to get this juice, which begs the following question: Is ECOpure Rich really that good? What does it taste like?
). I have a friend in Germany. I can buy it from here and have them send it to Germany and then my friend can send it here.It seems like a lot of jumping through hoops to get this juice, which begs the following question: Is ECOpure Rich really that good? What does it taste like?
I've recently had a chance to try out RiZe's ECOvape RICH and their DARK RICH, along with RiZe's Turkish Gold and their Flue Cured e-liquid flavors. I got them about 2 weeks ago, but have let them steep more than a week before giving a review them here. To be honest, the extra week and a few days of steeping doesn't seem to have made much of a flavor diifference with any of them. None of these e-liquid flavors are bad, but none of them particularly stand out either. All of these were tried out in 16ml nicotine strength level, which is a bit higher than I normally use these days. They are all 100% VG, with no PG blended in. All were vaped on an ECHO auto battery, using new CE4 type clearomizers (tanks).
The ECOvape RICH is the darkest of the 4 e-liquids by far - a dark, semi-clear red color. It tastes dark, and rich, in a molasses-like sort of way. It has a sweetness to it, and is very heavy, with a touch of artificiality to it. I personally don't like it because it just doesn't have the right tobacco-like taste notes to it for me. It has pretty darn good throat hit though, and is vaguely reminiscent of smoking a cigar, or even pipe tobacco. I can really taste that rich red coloring, which is one of the main flavor impacts it gives me. It is nothing at all like any of the old ECOpure tobacco flavors that I recall. This stuff gives me a head buzz pretty quickly. Vapor production is very decent, though nothing particularly amazing. There is nothing ECOpure malty about it to me.
ECOvape RICH is much lighter in color than the DARK RICH, but is still a bit darker than the 2 RiZe e-liquid flavors I also tried. I would call it a honey color. It too doesn't really have any kind of a malty flavor, but is certainly less heavy tasting than the DARK RICH, without the molasses-like flavor component. ECOvape RICH also has less throat hit than the DARK RICH, but it still has plenty enough throat hit at this nicotine level. This e-liquid also still fails to deliver quite the right tobacco-like flavor feel for me, but it is definitely more cigarette-like than the DARK RICH flavor. It has a sweetness too it as well, but not as much as the DARK RICH (which in itself was not overly strong). In a way, it kind of tastes like a DARK RICH light, but without the heavy molasses like flavor. It also tastes a bit more dry and green leafy - which may be why it feels more like cigarette tobacco to me. All in all it isn't bad, but it doesn't have that clean vaping impression that one used to get from ECOpure RICH, but it is also somewhat more genuinely tobacco-like tasting and feeling. Vapor production is fine.
Now to the RiZe e-liquid flavors, both of which are fairly light in color - a light honey color.
First, RiZe's Turkish Gold. This is a light flavor, with a gentle sweetness. It is almost minty in flavor, but not quite. It is cleaner tasting than either of the 2 ECOvape e-liquid flavors I tried. It may even have a touch of malt flavor to it, but it is hard to tell for me. I haven't had a malty flavored e-liquid in a long time. It really isn't all that particularly tobacco-like in flavor, but it surprisingly pleasant, in a fairly low key kind of way. It has a leafy flavor, but almost more of a leafy mint, rather than tobacco leaf. This makes it slightly weird, as it has a bit of leafy green bitterness too it. Vapor production is pretty much on par with the ECOvape e-liquids. Throat hit is not bad, but that slight plant-like bitterness this e-liquid has isn't terribly tobacco-like, so it really doesn't appeal to me. It tastes nothing like a real Turkish cigarette, or even an e-liquid like DeKang's Turkish Blended - which definitely has a more genuinely a slightly spicy Turkish tobacco flavor to it, but is also a mostly all PG e-liquid.
RiZe Flue Cured. This has quite a nasal exhale throat hit packed into it, on par with the ECOvape DARK RICH. That throat hit kind of overwhelms the flavor of this e-liquid, making it difficult to describe accurately. Like RiZe's Turkish Gold, there is a slightly malty flavor component to this e-liquid, but not very strong. This is what provides the sweetness to this flavor, as seems to be the case with RiZe's Turkish Gold. But thankfully there is no leafy green bitterness here. Nor is there any woodsy tobacco flavor or mint. There is a tobacco flavor, but it is generally low key in itself. Despite that, there is a tobacco-like richness to this flavor, which along with its good (possibly too strong) throat hit is what gives this e-liquid its primary characteristics. This makes it more cigarette tobacco-like than the other 3 e-liquids overall. Vapor production is good, adding to this affect. Inhale is smooth. It is the exhale that is a bit throat hit harsh.
Of these 4 e-liquid flavors, I prefer ECOvape's RICH and RiZe's Flue Cured. Both are the most cigarette style tobacco-like of the bunch, with the ECOvape RICH having a bit more discernable flavor complexity, and less throat hit harshness. Both are otherwise quite different from each other, with the Flue Cured flavor having a fuller, heavier vapor feel to it. Neither is terribly much like Intellicig's ECOpure RICH, except in the most general of ways, and in that all 3 are 100% VG e-liquids. If you are looking for a close match to ECOpure RICH, none of these will suit you, but may be of interest anyway. They are decent enough all VG e-liquids, but I for one will probably experiment mixing them together to see if I can end up with something a little more to my liking. All of these e-liquids lack in flavor complexity, which is something I personally enjoy, so I will keep looking around for other all VG e-liquids that will hopefully suit me better. The RiZe e-liquids show some potential, so I may check out some of their other flavor offerings.
The ECOvape RICH is the darkest of the 4 e-liquids by far - a dark, semi-clear red color. It tastes dark, and rich, in a molasses-like sort of way. It has a sweetness to it, and is very heavy, with a touch of artificiality to it. I personally don't like it because it just doesn't have the right tobacco-like taste notes to it for me. It has pretty darn good throat hit though, and is vaguely reminiscent of smoking a cigar, or even pipe tobacco. I can really taste that rich red coloring, which is one of the main flavor impacts it gives me. It is nothing at all like any of the old ECOpure tobacco flavors that I recall. This stuff gives me a head buzz pretty quickly. Vapor production is very decent, though nothing particularly amazing. There is nothing ECOpure malty about it to me.
ECOvape RICH is much lighter in color than the DARK RICH, but is still a bit darker than the 2 RiZe e-liquid flavors I also tried. I would call it a honey color. It too doesn't really have any kind of a malty flavor, but is certainly less heavy tasting than the DARK RICH, without the molasses-like flavor component. ECOvape RICH also has less throat hit than the DARK RICH, but it still has plenty enough throat hit at this nicotine level. This e-liquid also still fails to deliver quite the right tobacco-like flavor feel for me, but it is definitely more cigarette-like than the DARK RICH flavor. It has a sweetness too it as well, but not as much as the DARK RICH (which in itself was not overly strong). In a way, it kind of tastes like a DARK RICH light, but without the heavy molasses like flavor. It also tastes a bit more dry and green leafy - which may be why it feels more like cigarette tobacco to me. All in all it isn't bad, but it doesn't have that clean vaping impression that one used to get from ECOpure RICH, but it is also somewhat more genuinely tobacco-like tasting and feeling. Vapor production is fine.
Now to the RiZe e-liquid flavors, both of which are fairly light in color - a light honey color.
First, RiZe's Turkish Gold. This is a light flavor, with a gentle sweetness. It is almost minty in flavor, but not quite. It is cleaner tasting than either of the 2 ECOvape e-liquid flavors I tried. It may even have a touch of malt flavor to it, but it is hard to tell for me. I haven't had a malty flavored e-liquid in a long time. It really isn't all that particularly tobacco-like in flavor, but it surprisingly pleasant, in a fairly low key kind of way. It has a leafy flavor, but almost more of a leafy mint, rather than tobacco leaf. This makes it slightly weird, as it has a bit of leafy green bitterness too it. Vapor production is pretty much on par with the ECOvape e-liquids. Throat hit is not bad, but that slight plant-like bitterness this e-liquid has isn't terribly tobacco-like, so it really doesn't appeal to me. It tastes nothing like a real Turkish cigarette, or even an e-liquid like DeKang's Turkish Blended - which definitely has a more genuinely a slightly spicy Turkish tobacco flavor to it, but is also a mostly all PG e-liquid.
RiZe Flue Cured. This has quite a nasal exhale throat hit packed into it, on par with the ECOvape DARK RICH. That throat hit kind of overwhelms the flavor of this e-liquid, making it difficult to describe accurately. Like RiZe's Turkish Gold, there is a slightly malty flavor component to this e-liquid, but not very strong. This is what provides the sweetness to this flavor, as seems to be the case with RiZe's Turkish Gold. But thankfully there is no leafy green bitterness here. Nor is there any woodsy tobacco flavor or mint. There is a tobacco flavor, but it is generally low key in itself. Despite that, there is a tobacco-like richness to this flavor, which along with its good (possibly too strong) throat hit is what gives this e-liquid its primary characteristics. This makes it more cigarette tobacco-like than the other 3 e-liquids overall. Vapor production is good, adding to this affect. Inhale is smooth. It is the exhale that is a bit throat hit harsh.
Of these 4 e-liquid flavors, I prefer ECOvape's RICH and RiZe's Flue Cured. Both are the most cigarette style tobacco-like of the bunch, with the ECOvape RICH having a bit more discernable flavor complexity, and less throat hit harshness. Both are otherwise quite different from each other, with the Flue Cured flavor having a fuller, heavier vapor feel to it. Neither is terribly much like Intellicig's ECOpure RICH, except in the most general of ways, and in that all 3 are 100% VG e-liquids. If you are looking for a close match to ECOpure RICH, none of these will suit you, but may be of interest anyway. They are decent enough all VG e-liquids, but I for one will probably experiment mixing them together to see if I can end up with something a little more to my liking. All of these e-liquids lack in flavor complexity, which is something I personally enjoy, so I will keep looking around for other all VG e-liquids that will hopefully suit me better. The RiZe e-liquids show some potential, so I may check out some of their other flavor offerings.
The RiZe tobacco flavors are supposedly all extracted tobaccos (in one way or another.) I have yet to try them, but your synopsis tells me that there is some extracted tobacco in there. As to what kind of extraction, it is likely third party extracted (the people at RiZe seemed to not know much more than specifically saying the tobacco flavors comes from tobacco and are not artifical), but any more than that would be anyone's guess.
This is very sad. Although I rarely buy EcoRich...due to the price...it IS the ONLY pre-made liquid I like. I make my own from VG and nic (picky about the nic also) and EM. But I did enjoy a couple of EcoRich bottles every yr. Hopefully someone will bring it back? I tried the Malty from BWB a couple of yr's ago and did not like it. I could taste the PG.
Its an old thread but I found it when I was thinking about trying some Ecopure Rich, I guess thats not going to happen now. Anyway, if anyone else happens by this thread Im also curious about other similar alternatives. I vape mostly pg but am willing to try any ratio. Cignots Sweet Naked was named as a similar juice, and not having tried either, is there a slight tobacco'ish background?
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Sitting here with these bottles of EcoPure Rich looking at me, they are as perplexed as I am about the tag "tobacco." There is no tobacco to speak of in this liquid, but I guess one could say that the juice has a cig-like hit? Maybe? Not really. Just tying to draw some parallel.
Thats interesting, now I really wish I could have tried it just to see where the idea or perception of its faint "tobacco'ish,ness" quality might be from.
Holy cow! ECOpure is going away?? Disaster. It's my only vape
Going away? It's gone--at least for shipping to the states. You have to find away to get it from the UK. $$$$
There have been many threads dedicated to the DIY of ECOpure Rich, the only 3 ingredients are
Ethyl Maltol
Water
VG
No other ingredients at all... according to the Ecopure purity statements available online.
Few of the clones have gotten the percentages right, and many have added PG due to the dissolve rate of Ethol Maltol (apparently best in PG), but can be done in water or VG... or to help throat hit.
Ethyl Maltol
Water
VG
No other ingredients at all... according to the Ecopure purity statements available online.
Few of the clones have gotten the percentages right, and many have added PG due to the dissolve rate of Ethol Maltol (apparently best in PG), but can be done in water or VG... or to help throat hit.
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