ECOpure Rich, RIP... any alternatives?

[Kent C]

Update from billybc on another thread....

post#25

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9-intellicig-ecopure-rich-3.html#post10196863

 

[billybc96]

Oh, wow. I'm sorry, I totally forgot to make note on this thread of the recent success I've had using Cignot's Basic Sweet Naked e-liquid flavor as a replacement for ECOpure RICH. If you click on Kent C's posted link above, you'll see that I think the stuff rocks as a near ECOpure RICH replacement. I don't think it's quite as rich, but it is good enough in all other respects, including flavor and performance. Plus, it is nearly half the price of what ECOpure's e-liquids used to sell for in the U.S. Admittedly Cignot's S&H rates seem a little higher than they need to be, but are not outrageous. Large enough orders ($75+ I think) get free shipping, so I guess that's something. They are also a little slow at shipping. Delivery for me took about a week, but that's better than getting ECOpure RICH shipped from Europe.

Cignot's other Basic Tobacco flavors use only about 4% PG (Sweet Naked and their Basic Naked flavor use none), but also don't use Ethyl Maltol at all, so they simply don't compare at all in flavor. In fact, Cignot's Basic Tobacco flavors (though not bad) didn't taste particularly special to me, and are overall fairly average (or even below average) in flavor. However, they are fairly thin and do appear to run well in cartomizers without any gunk build up or coil/wick burn out issues common with many other high VG juices. Because of their flavor, I can't really recommend them. However, Cignot's Basic Sweet Naked is a whole other animal.

If you are looking for an ECOpure RICH replacement, now that it has sadly gone bye-bye from the U.S., Basic Sweet Naked is it. It has the same relative clarity (with a very slight yellowish tinge), is functionally thin, runs clean, and has the right flavor and vape impact. I don't really know what else to say about it. There may be some other VG e-liquids out there that are nearly as good a copy of ECOpure RICH (or even better?), but I have yet to come across one. Give it a try. I'd like to read what other forum members think about this juice, and how close a match they think it is.

 

[Exchaner]

I am impressed by Ecopure's great throat hit. The secret seems to be the amount of water added to the Vg helping to increase the vapor production hitting the throat. Has anyone experimented along those lines? I have tried adding 15% DW with positive results, but not enough to match the TH on the real thing. I have also read that Intellicig uses deionized water as opposed to distilled.

 

[billybc96]

Deionized water, eh? I guess that'd be worth a try. Please let us know how well that works out if you try it.

 

[Exchaner]

Deionized water, eh? I guess that'd be worth a try. Please let us know how well that works out if you try it.

Looking for a source for deionized water with no luck so far. It is used in manufacturing circuit boards .... Anyone with info where to buy?

 

[Kent C]

Lab Grade Deionized Water, 0.05 micron, 1 gal. for sale. Buy from The Science Company.

This is UV sterilized which kills bacteria and viruses which can exist in deionized water because some organics aren't ions. deionization will deionize the mineral contents but not the organic content of water.

 

[Exchaner]

Thanks Kent. That is great help.

 

[AaronY]

According to my readings on ecf Malty at backwoods brew is the same concept. Or you can DIY by using Malty 10% one adjust to taste

I did not find bwb malty at all the same. It lacks the crispness and has a strange back round flavor IMHO. Do you have any other suggestions?

 

[AaronY]

Intellicig (Euro) sent me thins in an email: Dear Mann,

Unfortunately due to Intellicig's recent Acquisition by British American Tobacco in December 2012 we no longer ship to the USA. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

I guess you can hook-up with some one in Europe to buy for you, but that seems like a whole lot of work.

Intellicig USA still has not responded to my query.

They responded to me saying that it was unpopular. Which I think is not the case seeing the response here and the shipping embargo. It is sad that they did this. Has anyone tried intel cig usa new flavors?

 

[Mr.Mann]

They responded to me saying that it was unpopular. Which I think is not the case seeing the response here and the shipping embargo. It is sad that they did this. Has anyone tried intel cig usa new flavors?

Yes, and they are laughable recreations of EcoPure. I have some EcoPure from the UK and some EcoVape from the states and the two aren't remotely close. It had nothing to do with popularity, obviously.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Same here so far. Nothing to match. Nothing even close.

EDIT: forgot to add that I have some Basic Sweet on the way from Vicki. Fingers crossed and thanks to Kent for the heads-up.

 

[Exchaner]

Yes, and they are laughable recreations of EcoPure. I have some EcoPure from the UK and some EcoVape from the states and the two aren't remotely close. It had nothing to do with popularity, obviously.

How is the new recreation for throat hit?

 

[billybc96]

The Cignot Basic Sweet Naked has good throat hit in comparison to ECOpure RICH. The new U.S. Intllicig/RiZe ECOvape RICH was okay as well, but not quite as rich and hard hitting. The flavors doesn't compare. I'm not even sure if there is any Ethyl Maltol at all in ECOvape RICH. It sure didn't taste like there was to me when I tried it. I condidered ECOpure RICH to be a good base to mix with other e-liquid flavors, but ECOvape RICH is definitely not.

 

[Exchaner]

Has anyone noticed Ecopure regular has a better throat hit than the Rich version? I am thinking perhaps Ethyl Maltol mellows the vape.