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Theyre the FS ego batteries from mypvshop, which have this awful skirt stopper built on them, and if i shave that off itll cover the button for the battery. Its either spend 20 minutes shaving down every order of emdccs with a manual file, or spend a dollar and stop having to worry about it, and im sure an extender can come in handy elsewhere. The quality and lifespan of the batteries hasnt let me down yet, especially at 11 bucks for a 1100mah, but the actual construction of the connector leaves something to be desired...
 

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Theyre the FS ego batteries from mypvshop, which have this awful skirt stopper built on them, and if i shave that off itll cover the button for the battery. Its either spend 20 minutes shaving down every order of emdccs with a manual file, or spend a dollar and stop having to worry about it, and im sure an extender can come in handy elsewhere. The quality and lifespan of the batteries hasnt let me down yet, especially at 11 bucks for a 1100mah, but the actual construction of the connector leaves something to be desired...

oh, wow ... sounds like you need to get some kgo's from hoosier as soon as they come in (this week?). they really do fire hotter than the ego's! mine are kgo 1100's, and i think the ones at hoosier are the same. just my preference over ego batts. i'm not affiliated with hoosier. lol
 
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VG, I noticed Hoosier says not to use an eGo charger to charge the KGOs but they don't sell a KGO charger. What do you use? Thanks :)

that's weird! what do they expect people to use? come to think of it, i think i read that, too, but i've accidently charged my kgo's on the ego charger or vice versa with no problem. sometimes i get them mixed up. anyway, house of vapor was selling kgo's awhile back, too (for more money than hoosier). i'll have to check them out again.

just checked house of vapor and they are selling the kgo 1100 chargers for $7.99 each.
http://thehouseofvapor.com/KGO1100.aspx

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Thanks VG. Their batteries are $7 more than Hoosier!!! I hate paying shipping from 2 companies, one for the battery and one for the charger. Why can't suppliers get what we need so we can buy from one place? I guess I would need a cone too or does the eGo cone work... of course not, silly me for asking.
 

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VG, I noticed Hoosier says not to use an eGo charger to charge the KGOs but they don't sell a KGO charger. What do you use? Thanks :)

It says not to use a Joyetech charger :)

When I emailed them earlier this week I asked when batteries *and* chargers would be in. Brent said he thought they'd be in by Friday.
 
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The newest emdcc cartos I received fit the Joye batts just fine without doing anything to them. However, for the cheap Smok Tech batts I have to use the shorty extender. For something strange, I have two Riva 510 batts, one I have to use the extender, and the other doesn't need it.

The cheap Smoktech batteries are 3.7 volt batteries :D

You can grind half a mm off the skirt where the atty screws in or raise the post on the carto, battery or both. The Smoktech batteries hit harder than eGO batteries :D

I've got two of 'em - one just died today but I'm using the other one and it'll blow a bigger cloud than my eGO battery will :)
 

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I can't get the EMDCC to work on the VV eGo even with raising the posts on both the battery and the carto. Any ideas what would make it work? Thanks

Are you talking about the VV ego PT or the newer ego VV? What else is working for you, do you have any other dcc carto to try on it?
 

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Are you talking about the VV ego PT or the newer ego VV? What else is working for you, do you have any other dcc carto to try on it?

It's the VV eGo PT. Geez, I keep getting these confused. :facepalm: (My eGo VV works with everything once the post is raised.) I was able to get the eGo Mega Carto to work by lifting the posts and everything else I have works okay. I don't have any other DCs to try but it appears the skirt on the EMDCC is too long and not allowing it to make contact? Or the VV eGo PT might have a deeper well where the center post is??

If I can find my tiny magnets can I put one between the battery and the carto to see if that helps it make contact?
 
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Yep, or a 510 to ego adapter. I have the ego VV PT and it connects just fine. But I'm always having to lift the center pin up quite a bit to get it to fire the emdccs. That center pin goes up several mls, maybe you are not elevating it enough to make contact? I was hesitant at first to mess with it, but the pin is very mobile. Probably all you need is one little bit more. But they will fire up an emdcc once you have contact no problem. I found the best little carto for use with the Ego VV PT is the Boge 2.0 at 3.7 V setting. Nothing not to like about it. I use a swirl drip tip on the carto and just top off as I vape. Nice little PT despite the connection pin problem which seems to be a universal problem with different devices that require a 510 connection.

Edit: oops meant to say a shorty and possibly a 510 to ego on top of that. I just tried an emdcc on my ego vv pt. I haven't used one on it for quite awhile. It would not fire. I had to really get that pin up. Trick is to take a pin or other device and lift up on one side of the pin as far as you feel comfortable with. Then elevate the other side without causing the first side to drop back down. Do this gently but of course you don't want to ruin the center pin either by applying too much pressure.
 
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If I can find my tiny magnets can I put one between the battery and the carto to see if that helps it make contact?

Yes. They can be hard to get back out, but I threw a 3 mm magnet in one a while back for another carto that wouldn't connect right and it worked fine as long as I made sure it was centered and not shorting off the sides.

I sort of wonder if the low resistance isn't tripping the protection circuit. If you have raised the post on the device and raised the center pin in the carto and still aren't getting it to fire, I have to wonder if it really is maybe making good contact but is tripping the circuit.
 

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Yes. They can be hard to get back out, but I threw a 3 mm magnet in one a while back for another carto that wouldn't connect right and it worked fine as long as I made sure it was centered and not shorting off the sides.

I sort of wonder if the low resistance isn't tripping the protection circuit. If you have raised the post on the device and raised the center pin in the carto and still aren't getting it to fire, I have to wonder if it really is maybe making good contact but is tripping the circuit.

I don't think the MV VV PT has that sort of protection circuit, but it may. It's a pretty simple device. But even if it did, since the dual coils are in parallel at 1.5 each the device should see it as standard resistance? At least that's what I thought. Maybe one of the coils is not firing on that particular carto. I have a VV box that won't fire my 2.0 cartos, they trip the 145000 protected batteries, what a pain. But I won't use unprotected since I saw a pic of one that exploded a device. Pretty dangerous if you ask me.
 

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I don't think the MV VV PT has that sort of protection circuit, but it may. It's a pretty simple device. But even if it did, since the dual coils are in parallel at 1.5 each the device should see it as standard resistance? At least that's what I thought. Maybe one of the coils is not firing on that particular carto. I have a VV box that won't fire my 2.0 cartos, they trip the 145000 protected batteries, what a pain. But I won't use unprotected since I saw a pic of one that exploded a device. Pretty dangerous if you ask me.

How was the battery exploded? Improper use? Shouldn't explode from normal use, there are plenty of lithium ion batteries out there that dont spontaneously explode
 

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I don't think the MV VV PT has that sort of protection circuit, but it may. It's a pretty simple device. But even if it did, since the dual coils are in parallel at 1.5 each the device should see it as standard resistance? At least that's what I thought. Maybe one of the coils is not firing on that particular carto. I have a VV box that won't fire my 2.0 cartos, they trip the 145000 protected batteries, what a pain. But I won't use unprotected since I saw a pic of one that exploded a device. Pretty dangerous if you ask me.

Parallel ~3.2 ohm coils are seen as ~1.6 ohms. Most passthroughs have an amp cut off whether it be that the switch can only take so much or an actual protection circuit or that the power source can only produce so much.

Unprotected batteries: Well, that's a topic in and of itself. It depends on the chemistry and design of the battery. Lithium Ion batteries used in mods need to be protected. Unprotected li-on rechargeables are not safe for vaping, and especially so when stacked. LIMN chemistry (IMR batteries), Ni-MH chemistry, and the lifep04 batts and a couple of other safe chemistry type batteries require no protection circuit. For instance Ni-MH cells are individually vented and a venting failure produces a very small amount of hydrogen - and that's about it.

Occasionally, a safe chem batt will have a catastrophic failure and I've seen a few sets of photos of the results here on ECF (among other places). Occasionally, a protected li-on battery will also have a catastrophic failure. I have personally seen batteries fail in all three situations where failure occurs - over charge, over discharge, and short. Some of those were safe chem batts and some of them were li-ons. There is a thread in this section about an eGo-t battery that flamed out, and I saw a bulged go-go battery a few months ago, so it can happen even to the commercial mass-produced eCigs with built in circuits.

The last set of battery failure photos I saw here on ECF were of a top-of-the-line AW IMR. The ones before that were a protected trustfire - and the ones before that were from some tenergy li-ons (failed while stacked). -- It isn't a common occurance, but it is something that anyone using rechargable batteries should be aware of.

So, my conclusion is that as long as unprotected li-on batteries are completely avoided, your chances of experiencing a catastrophic failure is equally low across the common battery chemistries.
 

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Wow, thanks for all that, means what I've read about the dual coils was not correct as far as the devices go. And the battery pics were all I needed to stay away from unprotected if possible.

But what is strange is that my VV box will use the dual coils but balks at the 2.0 boges??? So if it fires the emdccs at 1.6 ohms why does it not like the 2.0s?
 
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