ego-T Atomizers and editorial comment

[rotis47]

Ya...I'm a noob. Post #1.
Does anyone else find it bewildering that with all the creative design and development efforts by all those involved in manufacturing e cig hardware that a more reliable atomizer has yet to be developed? I loathe putting out negative comments and energy but I had to ask the question. I am very lucky that I can afford to buy as many supplies as I need and will continue to do so. Analogs are no longer an option. PV's are what finally helped me to quit smoking. I also didn't realize that this effort would become sort of like a little part time job. That is OK though because I have bit of OCD in me and tinkering can be fun. I have tried all sort of methods to resurrect the dead attys to no avail. Some go for 3 weeks, some go for 3 days. Thanks for listening. I will work hard to be more positive and move the discussion along.

 

[Beans]

Hi rotis47 welcome to ECF!
I can't give an opinion on that one.....I have NO love for attys. I'm strictly a Carto girl I find them irritating as heck.

 

[Stosh]

Welcome to ECF !!!

Keep your attys damp always, and don't let them get too hot, they'll last a bit longer.

You are correct in desiring better equipment, but vaping can be a study in contrasts, start with
heating an element that's very low resistance, to almost glowing enough to
vaporize a liquid without burning it.
And do with a battery that's often too small in size to provide enough power,
but nobody wants to have to carry a huge PV.

Then put it all in a package the size of a king size cigarette and make it last all day.

Perhaps someday, the technology is just too new right now, it's like we're using the first
cell phones ever made (google some pictures )

 

[Xiox]

Hi rotis47,

I don't know if you have tried the Cisco Spec series of attomizers (501 and 306). I cannot say they are the ultimate solution, because I haven't yet used them long enough, but there are reports from users using one atomizer for as long as several months. I personally don't find that so hard to believe - my current Cisco 306 atomizer is in it's fourth week and still performing as it's brand new (and I do not perform any maintenance on it whatsoever). And apart from longevity their performance is in another world compared to regular style atomizers. All this of course applies if you are a fan of direct dripping.

If you are looking for a tank based solution I have to agree the factory supplied products are far from perfect. As long as custom build tank mods are concerned I cannot comment because I haven't tried any of them, I suppose someone with more experience might share their impressions....

 

[Baldr]

Early cell phones to current cell phones, there is a huge difference in size. I don't think we're going to see that in PV's.

There is already a ton of research into batteries, and has been for some time. PV's aren't driving that research, it would be happening anyway. And battery size is one of the biggest limitations on PV's. Those early cell phones had a lot of electronic stuff which they've been able to make smaller, and the battery research helped make them smaller. But I think it's unlikely that a huge battery breakthrough is right around the corner that will let us have teeny-tiny batteries that let us vape at 6v for days at a time.

What can easily be done with batteries has already been done. Sure, I expect we'll see some small improvements now and then, but battery research has been so important in so many fields for long enough that we're unlikely to see any huge improvements that will make PV's a lot smaller.

Atomizers/cartomizers/tanks, that technology is relatively new, and hasn't had much in the way of large corporations pushing research. We're more likely to see significant improvements there. But in that area, I don't think size is likely to change a lot. This stuff simply isn't that big, with the exception of fluid storage, so it's hard to make that part significantly smaller.

 

[tj99959]

Well the atty that I'm using right now I got in April. The trick is simple, just don't use one until it rolls over dead. I use an atty for a day-two days and then toss it in an old coffee cup. When I get 3-4 atties in the cup they get to go on a nice overnight bender. I then blow the alcohol out, and give each a short dry burn. When there isn't two weeks worth of backed on gunk to get rid of, it's surprisingly easy.

 

[Stosh]

Early cell phones to current cell phones, there is a huge difference in size. I don't think we're going to see that in PV's.......

Agreed, but cell phones are about 30 years old, with a huge marketplace available.
With e-cigs around, I may just last long enough to see the improvements.