Ego Twist and Viva Nova or Startup Kit!

[Pappy]

What Biziou said. +1

 

[Will P.C.]

What Biziou said. +1

Can't get much better than this!

This forum is great!

 

[John D in CT]

What Biziou said. +1

1 + 1 = 2. Epic post, Biziou. You gonna vape the stuff for Will as well?

If I were to tweak that at all, I'd get a spare charger (both pieces) for backup, and maybe 1 each of the Vivi Nova "regular" and "Mini". And just maybe a lanyard - for $4.95 - that I wish I'd gotten a long time ago. Now I always know where my rig is - right around my neck. Very nice.

 

[Will P.C.]

1 + 1 = 2. Epic post, Biziou. You gonna vape the stuff for Will as well?

If I were to tweak that at all, I'd get a spare charger (both pieces) for backup, and maybe 1 each of the Vivi Nova "regular" and "Mini". And just maybe a lanyard - for $4.95 - that I wish I'd gotten a long time ago. Now I always know where my rig is - right around my neck. Very nice.

I can't have the lanyard in jail for fear I will harm myself or someone else according to the COs.

I am now onto the ejuice part in my mission. Is 18mg in 15ml considered middle of the road? Any good specialty places with a .... load of flavor selections?

Edit
Is this ego tank cone a necessity? if so, I need to contact the place to add it on since I forgot to add it

 

[rum87mage]

so a lil off topic here i know your asking about the twist but have you seen the kgo vv yet? Its cheap 25.00 its vv 3-6 volts and it can be used as a passthrough so you dont need to buy 2

here is the bat it comes with a charger
KGO V.V. 650mAh

here is my video i use the viv nova tank on it
Kgo vv Battery 3.0-6.0 volts review - YouTube

 

[catoliver]

I can't have the lanyard in jail for fear I will harm myself or someone else according to the COs.

I am now onto the Ejuice part in my mission. Is 18mg in 15ml considered middle of the road? Any good specialty places with a .... load of flavor selections?

I was a pack a day smoker when I started vaping. I bought the 24 mg for the first month because I didn't want to fall off the wagon. These past 2 months I'm holding steady at 18 mg and honestly didn't notice any difference.

 

[Biziou]

Edit
Is this ego tank cone a necessity? if so, I need to contact the place to add it on since I forgot to add it

Not necessary at all, just personally I had to have it immediately, once I saw the twist/vivi without it. I'd also be more hesitant to stick my twist in my pocket without, as that battery post just looks so frail and spindly without some stabilization.

^With and without. It's that bit between the tank and the battery. It looks even more wonky without it if you went with a full sized Vivi Nova.

Juice is a subjective thing, so it's harder to rec. You'd probably get a different answer from almost everyone you ask. But Vapedudes has a pretty solid selection of flavors, and a one-time 40% off coupon code ("vapedudes") so you can take some different kinds of flavors out for a whirl and see what you might be into - it might surprise you what you like!

 

[rum87mage]

if you want a strong throat hit and smoked alot then 18-24 mg nic juice. I found that the dkang red usa 24 mg was a great throat hit and tastes really good.Its a 100% pg juice and in the vivi nova at 5 votls i get alot of vaper. if your looking for real thick vaper then 50pg/50vg would probly be the best. 100% vg is really really thick. 100% vg is really thin and seems to wick better

 

[John D in CT]

I can't have the lanyard in jail for fear I will harm myself or someone else according to the COs.

I am now onto the Ejuice part in my mission. Is 18mg in 15ml considered middle of the road? Any good specialty places with a .... load of flavor selections?

Will, it's slowly dawning on me that your "Location" entry might not be for comedic effect. If that's the case, no worries. But for dumb luck, I'd be vaping in the upper bunk.

As for nic strengths, the "ml" doesn't enter into it. The only thing that counts is the "mg", and the "ml" just means how big a supply of that particular strength you have.

The "mg" refers to how many milligrams of nicotine there is per ml (milliliter) of juice. 1000 mg per ml would be (roughly) 100% nicotine, and would obviously kill you in relatively small quantities. "1.8 mg" per ml means that the liquid is 1.8% nicotine, which IMO is a pretty good strength to start with. It's what I'm vaping right now, but I "should" be at 6 or 12. I'm still "bingeing", bad boy that I am.

I like to break it down this way:

0 mg = just that. I vaped for my first 6 months at zero nic, until I craved a little buzz/mood enhancer.
6 mg = ultralights
12 mg = lights
18 mg = regular filtered
24 mg = Camel straights
36 mg = smoking Camel straights while wearing a nicotine patch
48 mg = just go ahead and shoot yourself; it's quicker.

There are obviously hundreds of vendors and thousands of flavors, but some of my favorite vendors/flavors are:

Backwoods Brew:

Virginia
Menthol Tobacco (great for mixing in with other Tobacco flavors, if it's too "mentholly" for you straight)
Honey Flue Nut (yum)
ROOT BEER (yum, yum)

Tasty Vapor:

Geoff's Blend (wow)
Atomic Cinnacide (like an Atomic Fireball. YUM! for six months, but then you can't even stand to smell it any more).
Kretek Clove (WOW - but it doesn't "keep" very well IMO - but again, WOW)

(Tasty Vapor is great because of their "Doublers"; flavored zero-nic juice that is 4x cheaper than the nicotinized corresponding flavors, so you can get the nic flavor in 48mg and save huge $$ by mixing the 48mg w/ the Doubler, which is more like "Quadrupler" at 12 mg strength).

Or you can go through either of these threads, where you'll find LOTS of recommendations:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/237068-name-your-fav-flavor.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../215923-what-flavor-you-vaping-right-now.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/302383-best-clove-juice.html (I like clove)

Peace out, and vape on - and we'll wait for you!

 

[mostapha]

I think the vivi nova is a great vape, and on a twist the 1.8 ohm heads give me a great experience…worlds beyond what I started with.

But, I'm not sure they're amazing for a first vape. They take a little bit of work……you have to know how to clean them well, straight out of the box, otherwise they range from inconsistent to downright bad. this post on the e-cig sub reddit explains my method of cleaning the heads really well, as does a video phil bussardo (tasteyourjuice.com) put out, though I don't like his cleaning method as well. He skips the post-dry-burn rinse, and I think that's essential.

If you clean them straight out of the box and every few days, the vivi nova gives a great vape, and the 1.8 ohm head gives a great 5ish to 11ish W power range on the twist. But if you're not willing to learn how to clean them, I don't think they'll work for you. It's easy, but it takes some work/care, especially for the first few until you know what to look for.

If you are willing to do that work, there's not a lot out that I think is better. I find cartomizers to be too hit & miss, and dripping is too much of a PITA to me unless I'm at my desk trying juices or tasting the few I have that I like occasionally but don't want to dedicate a VN to. I have 4 of those things, and while I have some stuff coming from a co-op (group buy from Chinese wholesalers) I don't see myself seriously changing the way I vape until/unless I get into dedicated rebuildables……and I haven't seen much to really indicate whether the really expensive rebuildables will actually give a better vape than a vivi nova rebuilt with a better wick.

I'd seriously consider a Vision Spinner over an eGo Twist, though. They're available in bigger sizes (more battery life) and have better markings on the voltage adjustment (if you care) and as far as I can tell are internally identical to the Twist. I'd probably try one of them before I'd buy a 3rd Twist.

 

[klynnn]

I have been checking out the spinner too, just waiting on some new colors.

 

[John D in CT]

I think the vivi nova is a great vape, and on a twist the 1.8 ohm heads give me a great experience…worlds beyond what I started with.

But, I'm not sure they're amazing for a first vape. They take a little bit of work……you have to know how to clean them well, straight out of the box, otherwise they range from inconsistent to downright bad. this post on the e-cig sub reddit explains my method of cleaning the heads really well, as does a video phil bussardo (tasteyourjuice.com) put out, though I don't like his cleaning method as well. He skips the post-dry-burn rinse, and I think that's essential.

If you clean them straight out of the box and every few days, the vivi nova gives a great vape, and the 1.8 ohm head gives a great 5ish to 11ish W power range on the twist. But if you're not willing to learn how to clean them, I don't think they'll work for you. It's easy, but it takes some work/care, especially for the first few until you know what to look for.

If you are willing to do that work, there's not a lot out that I think is better. I find cartomizers to be too hit & miss, and dripping is too much of a PITA to me unless I'm at my desk trying juices or tasting the few I have that I like occasionally but don't want to dedicate a VN to. I have 4 of those things, and while I have some stuff coming from a co-op (group buy from Chinese wholesalers) I don't see myself seriously changing the way I vape until/unless I get into dedicated rebuildables……and I haven't seen much to really indicate whether the really expensive rebuildables will actually give a better vape than a vivi nova rebuilt with a better wick.

I'd seriously consider a Vision Spinner over an eGo Twist, though. They're available in bigger sizes (more battery life) and have better markings on the voltage adjustment (if you care) and as far as I can tell are internally identical to the Twist. I'd probably try one of them before I'd buy a 3rd Twist.

I have been checking out the spinner too, just waiting on some new colors.

Will, no need to have your head explode. I still don't think you can go wrong with the Vivi Nova, and it seems that I have a real treat in store for me, because I've never so much as touched a Vivi Nova atomizer, and as I said, I vaped on the first one for a month, and have about three days on my first replacement wick/atty. Please note that I'm not taking a single thing away from what Mostopha said; he just knows the Nova better than I do, and what I'm thinking is "just fine" performance is looking to me to be more like "so-so" performance, which is why I say that I seem to be in for a real treat.

I've also looked a little at the Vision Spinner, and it looks like a winner too. 1300mah in an eGo-type shape that's about 1/2" shorter than a 1000mah Twist and just a little fatter; sounds great to me. As I've said before - I'm not married to the Twist, we're just going steady right now. Either one would be just fine it seems to me, with maybe a slight edge to the Spinner, but props to the Twist for having more of a track record. That said, I have no reason to believe there will be any problems with the Spinner. I can't say the same about the kGo VV, since I put a lot of stock in what PBusardo had to say about the sketchy button, the proprietary bottom plug, the inability to charge from the top, and the inability to vape while charging.

Link to the Spinner at MadVapes:

Variable Volt E-Cigs, Variable Volt Vaporizers | MadVapes (Stainless, blue, black, and white)

I'd say just go with either the twist or the Spinner, and if you can't decide, the tie IMO goes to the one with the most user-hours on it - the Twist.

 

[mostapha]

Will, no need to have your head explode. I still don't think you can go wrong with the Vivi Nova, and it seems that I have a real treat in store for me, because I've never so much as touched a Vivi Nova atomizer, and as I said, I vaped on the first one for a month, and have about three days on my first replacement wick/atty. Please note that I'm not taking a single thing away from what Mostopha said; he just knows the Nova better than I do, and what I'm thinking is "just fine" performance is looking to me to be more like "so-so" performance, which is why I say that I seem to be in for a real treat.

Maybe your heads were somehow different from mine, but the only reason I stuck with my first one was because it took another few days for my cartomizers to come in. The first couple days before it broke in were an inconsistent mess of dry hits, mixed with flavorless hits, mixed with good hits……that were really picky about voltage……and the "ideal" (for the way I vape…basically as hot as it can get without burning) changed dramatically during the break-in period. Rinse, dry burn, rinse on a brand new head eliminates that break-in period entirely, and when the coil gets dirty and it starts performing worse (every few days for me) it bring it back to performing like it just broke in.

My second head (after ditching the first one as being bad) lasted for about 2 months with that treatment before it became too much of a pain to clean……though it was still working to some degree.

If my cartomizers had showed up before that break-in period finished, I never would have discovered how good these things are, which is why I suggest people cleaning them.

 

[Will P.C.]

Hey, Mostapha

Thanks for chiming with your experiences and the guide for dry burning the Viva. In that guide it talks about 'pulse' What does 'pulse' mean? Is it taking tiny pulls at an equal rate? What type of atty would you recommend since you don't care for the Viva that fits on a Ego twist? I already have the Viva coming, but wouldn't mind picking up another atty

John D in Ct,

I was a smokeless tobacco user (skoal mint), but have smoked a few cigarettes/cigars. I like the nicotine when I am studying or writing. Thank you for your help with the recommended juice vendors and assisting in this thread. I bought some jungle juice from the place I bought all the other .....

Typically, how long will a 15ml bottle last and how many ml is an 'average' vaping session?

P.S.- I am not in county jail as it is for comedic effect. However, I would not mind going to jail if I could hang out on the web and vape all day.

 

[juanelo]

For those in Canada, the best price on the twist and viv nova mini that I found so far is at www.CANVAPE.com.

Cheers!

 

[John D in CT]

Typically, how long will a 15ml bottle last and how many ml is an 'average' vaping session?

P.S.- I am not in county jail as it is for comedic effect. However, I would not mind going to jail if I could hang out on the web and vape all day.

Will - If I had to pick a number of ml/day to call "average", I'd say about 6; so 15ml = 2.5 days maybe. That would put the cost per day at around $3, give or take. That's for vaping retail juice; you can get that way down if you DIY. As for how much per "average vaping session" - for me, that's not applicable because I just vape all day, whenever I feel like taking a puff/hit/toot/toke/drag. I have a feeling that would be a pretty universal sentiment.

And I'm happy to hear that you're not really in the slammer - you really had me going with the lanyard thing; nicely played.

And yes, vaping and surfing the internet all day while getting three hot squares on the taxpayers tab does sound a little too cushy, now that you mention it.

 

[MaligknoGDL]

i had really bad experiences whit cartos so im going t get a vivi nova and a twist, the batteries i have are crap.

 

[mostapha]

Hey, Mostapha

Thanks for chiming with your experiences and the guide for dry burning the Viva. In that guide it talks about 'pulse' What does 'pulse' mean? Is it taking tiny pulls at an equal rate? What type of atty would you recommend since you don't care for the Viva that fits on a Ego twist? I already have the Viva coming, but wouldn't mind picking up another atty

I'm not sure what a Viva is? If you're talking about the vivi nova, I really like them. I own 4 of them and hardly use anything else. They just take a bit of work to get the best performance out of them.

For a dripping atty, I like 901s. The 510H is better than generic 901s, but I'm not yet sure if it's worth the price difference as IHNFC how much longer it'll last and the normal bridged 901s give less harsh dry hits when they happen, and the flavor is only a little better in the 510H.

Also, pulse just means holding the button for a second or two, not for the entire dry burn. It makes it harder to pop a coil if you do it that way.

 

[Will P.C.]

Thanks Mostapha.

Yesterday, I came across a place that offered 10 10ml sample pack for 29.99 as a one time deal only, but did not bookmark. I have spent the last hour looking for this place. I saw it recommended in one the threads in this section of the board.

 

[Mustang73064]

Thanks Mostapha.

Yesterday, I came across a place that offered 10 10ml sample pack for 29.99 as a one time deal only, but did not bookmark. I have spent the last hour looking for this place. I saw it recommended in one the threads in this section of the board.

This could be it:
100ml Electronic Cigarette eLiquid Sample Packs & eJuice Varieties