EgoC Twist VV battery

[Flyer]

Posting this in the new members area since I am still a new member and new to vaping. I started vaping with an EgoC kit and have been quite happy with it (8 days and happily tobacco free). But like many, I am always looking for ways to improve the experience and have read many posts here and watched youtube reviews that indicated a VV system would let you fine tune the flavors and vapor quality. As the title of this post indicates, I bought an EgoC Twist battery to explore the benefits of VV.

My results so far:
1. The EgoC Twist has not produced a warmer vapor that others describe using other VV batteries. Not sure if I was even looking for this, but the fact is I haven't been able to detect any warming.
2. Varying the voltage does change the taste of the juice, but I can't say that any of the settings has substantialy improved the taste and vapor quality I was getting from the standard EgoC batteries.
3. The Twist does effect the overall form factor of the EgoC since it is quite a bit longer. But, it doesn't make it feel unbalanced or more difficult to vape with. Obviously, it does affect the "pocketability" which the standard batteries are so well suited for.
4. Using the Twist at 4+ volts consumes Juice at a much higher rate and for me so far, doesnt significantly improve taste or vapor production.
5. Unless I learn more about using VV, I suspect I'll put it on a 3.8 Volt setting and just enjoy the longer battery life.

Please let me know of your experiences with VV and any tips you might have for me to get better results than I have so far.

 

[BGabe]

Could you tell us a little bit about what Atty or Carto you're using? I'm assuming it's the standard ego-C atty head and cone, but I want to clarify before offering any advice.

 

[Flyer]

Yes, I'm using the standard atty head, cone, and tank setup.

 

[00mario00]

usually when we use a higher voltage is normal and consume more-liquid or dual coil tank too

 

[BGabe]

I've never used a tank/atty setup, but from what I've heard, they are not very good in terms of flavor and the like. You may notice a difference using a cartomizer or a regular atty and dripping. Try to go with something around 2.5 - 3 ohms as this will give you the best use on a VV device.

 

[Flyer]

I've never used a tank/atty setup, but from what I've heard, they are not very good in terms of flavor and the like. You may notice a difference using a cartomizer or a regular atty and dripping. Try to go with something around 2.5 - 3 ohms as this will give you the best use on a VV device.

Thanks. I'll try to pick up a cartomizer this afternoon.

 

[DCB305]

What affects the juices flavor and vapor is not so much the amount of volts, but the wattage that your vaping at. The wattage you vape at is determined by the resistance (ohms) of your atty/carto/clearo etc (let's call them attachments) and the voltage the device is providing (see ohms law calculator).

On a constant voltage device like your original ego (3.4 volts) the only way to change (increase/decrease) your watts is by changing the resistance of your attachments. For example at 3.4 volts a 3.0 ohm attachments will provide an output of 3.85 watts. If you want a warmer vapor or more vapor you can change the attachment to one of less resistance, let's say 2.0ohm, at 3.4 volts with a 2.0 ohm attachments you will have an output of 5.78 watts. Let's take it a step further and use a 1.5 ohm attachment on your 3.4 volt ego, the result would be 7.7 watts.

What variable voltage does is allow you to change that wattage output without changing the attachment. Let's take your ego c twist now, which ranges between 3.2 volts and 4.8 volts in .02 volts increments. So with a 3ohm attachment you will have 3.4 watts at 3.2 volts, 3.85 watts at 3.4 volts, and on up to 7.68 watts at 4.8 volts (similar to your 3.4 volt ego with a 1.5ohm attachment). If you wanted even more power above what you get on a 3ohm attachment at 4.8 volts you need to lower the resistance. Let's go with a 2ohm attachment, with a 2.0 ohm attachment I can get a similar vape as a 3ohm attachment at 4.8 volts (7.68watts) but at a much lower voltage (3.8volts would give you 7.22watts) and in theory you would be able to get up to 11.52 watts at 4.8 volts.

I say in theory as at his point we might start pushing the device to it's limit or may have passed them, because the device can handle only so much current and I have no clue what the ego c twist can handle as far as current. Current is a whole other report, so I'll leave that for another day. I hope this helps you understand the point of VV devices and also what the resistance of your attachments can do for your vape and why.

BTW standard reisistance (SR) is usually >2.0ohm and <3.0ohm, low resistance (LR) is generally <2.0ohm and high resistance (HR) is generally >3.0ohm.

 

[TravTech]

I've never used a tank/atty setup, but from what I've heard, they are not very good in terms of flavor and the like. You may notice a difference using a cartomizer or a regular atty and dripping. Try to go with something around 2.5 - 3 ohms as this will give you the best use on a VV device.

I have to disagree with what you've heard. Though I've moved on from the Ego-C for most of my vaping, I still sometimes put the Ego-C Cone / Head / Atty setup on my Provari.

When properly setup and maintained, and with a little knowledge and experience gained from using other setups you can get some of the best vapes around from the Ego-C.

With the "mini-tank" putting the juice almost directly on the atty (it has a tiny steel mesh wick built in) it's very close to straight dripping without the hassle of having to drip every few drags.

There's no flavor muting from the filler like in cartos, and no muting or "wick taste" like in the clearomizers. It's what I use either when I want to taste a bunch of different juices back to back, or when I want to see what a juice is really supposed to taste like.

Of course it may help some when it's got a Provari behind it rather than an Ego battery, but I could always get pretty good results even when using the full Ego setup with thinner juices.


Oh and what's considered an SR attty for Ego-C is like 2.1 - 2.2ohm and LR is like 1.5 - 1.7ohm. They're the only 2 avaialble, so yeah for the Twist VV I'd probably sitck with the SR.

 

[peterk]

How long does a twist work with a single charge compared to the previous non-VV versions? I mean a 650 standard vs 650 twist?

 

[peterk]

4. Using the Twist at 4+ volts consumes Juice at a much higher rate and for me so far, doesnt significantly improve taste or vapor production.
5. Unless I learn more about using VV, I suspect I'll put it on a 3.8 Volt setting and just enjoy the longer battery life.

Well, juice does not disappear, so if it consumes juice at a higher rate, then it produces more vapor. But is you do not notice this as an improvement, then probably it's fine to just use it at 3.8, as you mentioned. Btw, theoretically even at 3.8, the twist should work better than standard ego batteries, because it doesn't drop it's voltage under load.

 

[Flyer]

Thanks for all the input. Today I tried a smoktek 3 ohm carto in a Smoove tank on the EgoC Twist and at max 4.8 Volts and got zilch - no vapor, no taste. Then I switch to a 1.5 Ohm Smoktek carto at 3.8 volts and wow, what a difference. Great vapor, taste, and a warm hit.I'm not sure if I should even try to push this to a higher voltage. If I do and something fails, will it be the carto or my twist?

 

[DocV]

I think the twist might not let you go to too high a voltage with low resistance cartos. From what I have read elsewhere it will automatically drop to 3.7 ish volts if you try and crank it too high. I am someone with more technical knowledge will be able to correct me if I am wrong!

 

[bulldogz]

Posting this in the new members area since I am still a new member and new to vaping. I started vaping with an EgoC kit and have been quite happy with it (8 days and happily tobacco free). But like many, I am always looking for ways to improve the experience and have read many posts here and watched youtube reviews that indicated a VV system would let you fine tune the flavors and vapor quality. As the title of this post indicates, I bought an EgoC Twist battery to explore the benefits of VV.

My results so far:
1. The EgoC Twist has not produced a warmer vapor that others describe using other VV batteries. Not sure if I was even looking for this, but the fact is I haven't been able to detect any warming.
2. Varying the voltage does change the taste of the juice, but I can't say that any of the settings has substantialy improved the taste and vapor quality I was getting from the standard EgoC batteries.
3. The Twist does effect the overall form factor of the EgoC since it is quite a bit longer. But, it doesn't make it feel unbalanced or more difficult to vape with. Obviously, it does affect the "pocketability" which the standard batteries are so well suited for.
4. Using the Twist at 4+ volts consumes Juice at a much higher rate and for me so far, doesnt significantly improve taste or vapor production.
5. Unless I learn more about using VV, I suspect I'll put it on a 3.8 Volt setting and just enjoy the longer battery life.

Please let me know of your experiences with VV and any tips you might have for me to get better results than I have so far.

I am also a newbie...well about 2 months...and ditto everything in your post!!! I also just got a Twist & am reporting same results...very disappointing. I have been using a SR Stardust on mine & it does nothing for flavor or warmth (which I am seeking..lol)

I have also used a LR eGo-T (which my mom loves on her regular eGo but is just eh for me) with no better results.

 

[bulldogz]

What affects the juices flavor and vapor is not so much the amount of volts, but the wattage that your vaping at. The wattage you vape at is determined by the resistance (ohms) of your atty/carto/clearo etc (let's call them attachments) and the voltage the device is providing (see ohms law calculator).

On a constant voltage device like your original ego (3.4 volts) the only way to change (increase/decrease) your watts is by changing the resistance of your attachments. For example at 3.4 volts a 3.0 ohm attachments will provide an output of 3.85 watts. If you want a warmer vapor or more vapor you can change the attachment to one of less resistance, let's say 2.0ohm, at 3.4 volts with a 2.0 ohm attachments you will have an output of 5.78 watts. Let's take it a step further and use a 1.5 ohm attachment on your 3.4 volt ego, the result would be 7.7 watts.

What variable voltage does is allow you to change that wattage output without changing the attachment. Let's take your ego c twist now, which ranges between 3.2 volts and 4.8 volts in .02 volts increments. So with a 3ohm attachment you will have 3.4 watts at 3.2 volts, 3.85 watts at 3.4 volts, and on up to 7.68 watts at 4.8 volts (similar to your 3.4 volt ego with a 1.5ohm attachment). If you wanted even more power above what you get on a 3ohm attachment at 4.8 volts you need to lower the resistance. Let's go with a 2ohm attachment, with a 2.0 ohm attachment I can get a similar vape as a 3ohm attachment at 4.8 volts (7.68watts) but at a much lower voltage (3.8volts would give you 7.22watts) and in theory you would be able to get up to 11.52 watts at 4.8 volts.

I say in theory as at his point we might start pushing the device to it's limit or may have passed them, because the device can handle only so much current and I have no clue what the ego c twist can handle as far as current. Current is a whole other report, so I'll leave that for another day. I hope this helps you understand the point of VV devices and also what the resistance of your attachments can do for your vape and why.

BTW standard reisistance (SR) is usually >2.0ohm and <3.0ohm, low resistance (LR) is generally <2.0ohm and high resistance (HR) is generally >3.0ohm.

Thank you for this!!! It is helping to clarify some...so do you think higher wattage = warmer vapor?

 

[EKDP]

I'll give it a try.

 

[DCB305]

Thank you for this!!! It is helping to clarify some...so do you think higher wattage = warmer vapor?

Absolutely, and you can get higher wattage by lowering resistance or increasing voltage. I'm glad it helped.

 

[Zach75]

Just ordered a twist cant wait to try out vv should have it tuesday because of the long weekend here

 

[JudeD]

Wow. I've had the complete opposite experience. I have an eGo-C, which I liked, but just got the twist battery today. Put a Stardust on it filled with my favorite juice and OMG--I felt like I was blowing vapor out for five minutes off one draw! I noticed a big difference with mine and was skeptical before getting it. The vapor feels creamier--I know that sounds weird, but it does--thicker and more substantial. I do agree that I didn't feel a lot more warmth to the vapor, but I wasn't looking for that, just better taste and more vapor.

My only question is--how do I make myself put this down? I mixed a few drops of Mrs. T's chocolate brownies with Mrs. T's chocolate covered cherries. Absolutely sinful. I feel like I'm cheating on my diet.

 

[eyebedam]

How long does a twist work with a single charge compared to the previous non-VV versions? I mean a 650 standard vs 650 twist?

I used my 1000 mah today for the first time fully charged. I got to work at 5:30 am. Just got home & it died. I used it alot today. So 12 hours at varying voltage. My regular ego would've lasted till mid morning. Still good results IMO.

 

[anfleet]

What affects the juices flavor and vapor is not so much the amount of volts, but the wattage that your vaping at. The wattage you vape at is determined by the resistance (ohms) of your atty/carto/clearo etc (let's call them attachments) and the voltage the device is providing (see ohms law calculator).

On a constant voltage device like your original ego (3.4 volts) the only way to change (increase/decrease) your watts is by changing the resistance of your attachments. For example at 3.4 volts a 3.0 ohm attachments will provide an output of 3.85 watts. If you want a warmer vapor or more vapor you can change the attachment to one of less resistance, let's say 2.0ohm, at 3.4 volts with a 2.0 ohm attachments you will have an output of 5.78 watts. Let's take it a step further and use a 1.5 ohm attachment on your 3.4 volt ego, the result would be 7.7 watts.

What variable voltage does is allow you to change that wattage output without changing the attachment. Let's take your ego c twist now, which ranges between 3.2 volts and 4.8 volts in .02 volts increments. So with a 3ohm attachment you will have 3.4 watts at 3.2 volts, 3.85 watts at 3.4 volts, and on up to 7.68 watts at 4.8 volts (similar to your 3.4 volt ego with a 1.5ohm attachment). If you wanted even more power above what you get on a 3ohm attachment at 4.8 volts you need to lower the resistance. Let's go with a 2ohm attachment, with a 2.0 ohm attachment I can get a similar vape as a 3ohm attachment at 4.8 volts (7.68watts) but at a much lower voltage (3.8volts would give you 7.22watts) and in theory you would be able to get up to 11.52 watts at 4.8 volts.

I say in theory as at his point we might start pushing the device to it's limit or may have passed them, because the device can handle only so much current and I have no clue what the ego c twist can handle as far as current. Current is a whole other report, so I'll leave that for another day. I hope this helps you understand the point of VV devices and also what the resistance of your attachments can do for your vape and why.

BTW standard reisistance (SR) is usually >2.0ohm and <3.0ohm, low resistance (LR) is generally <2.0ohm and high resistance (HR) is generally >3.0ohm.

Yes, thank you for a very thorough explanation! So, do I need to worry about using smoktech DC 1.5 ohm cartos above 4v on the twist? I was browsing another thread and it sounded as if some ppl were reluctant to use LR on a higher voltage.