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luvinit

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MFS has an EgoC starter kit for $9.95. I don't new a whole kit, just the atty head, cone and carts so this looks like a good deal. It's not joyetech though so I thought I'd buy this starter kit and then get a pack of the genuine joyetech atty heads. I would assume the real atty heads would fit on the knockoff base and cone, but does anyone know for sure? Or does anyone have any experience with this knockoff?


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Luvinit, Please... do yourself a favor and stay away from the ego C heads and atty's. I have already been down this road, and while the ego C's don't leak, they have zero vapor production and are tasteless. I ordered the same exact thing and got poor results. Like we discussed in an earlier post, I have some Ego Visions clearomizers on order
 

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Thanks everyone!! Randy,, I have some 3.5ml Vision clearomizers and they worked great for about a day.. now I have to constantly fiddle with them because they flood all the time. There's a rubber plug under the mouthpiece that I had to remove and replace so that the grooves in it were aligned with the wicks coming into the atty head... no big deal, was easy to do. But now they seem to flood a lot,, long, slow drags seem to help with that but not completely. They aren't terrible, but a bit of a pain.
Oneida.. I looked all damn night for just that exact thing and couldn't find it!!! Hell, for $20 it's worth a shot, I think. And MVS has a coupon code for 20% off the genuine Joyetech atty heads too.
Randy.. I'll be interested in how you like the Visions,, or if you have any tips about the flooding, I'd appreciate it..
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I highly doubt anyone has a Ego C starter kit for $9.95, but if you find one at this price, grab it just for the batteries and charger. You can throw the atties away and put some stardusts on it. I've never seen this kit anywhere close to a price that low.
It's not a whole starter kit with batts and everything.. it's just the atty head, cone and one atomizer and it's MVS's knockoff version of the real thing. That's why I was looking at it.. I have plenty of batts but can't seem to find an atty that works for me. They make these look really easy to use.. kinda idiot proof, which is totally what I need, apparently!
 

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If something seems too good to be true it probably is.

Also beware of people who tell you something that is very popular completely sucks.
So far everything I've heard bad about the eGo-C hasn't been my experience. I hear they destroy taste, yet I went from juice tasting so bad dripped on a 4072 that I stopped and waited for my eGo-C. With it all but one tastes great. I hear they leak with thick VG, yet mine do better with thicker juice (also VG or not has little to do with the final consistency). Every time I hear "leak" it ends up being the user flooding from sucking too hard or letting the tank get too low and not a leak at all. I hear vapor sucks yet I'm trying to figure out a way to cut my vapor production down for stealth vaping.

I can accept that it's not for everyone, no e-cig is. But for the experience to be the complete opposite tells me something up. Maybe those who don't like it tried to save a few dollars and got a cheap knockoff. Maybe they simply didn't like it and think by exaggerating they can drive the point home. But something doesn't add up.

I'd have no problem recommending a genuine eGo-C to anyone.
 

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Completely agree with Myk.

I'd also suggest steering clear of knockoffs - they may be partly to blame for bad experiences. From their site, it appears as though Joyetech controls the MSRP price on their products (like Apple). For $20 here is the kit you'd need: Joye eGo-C Sampler Set - Joye eGo Parts & Accessories

Maybe overkill, but for $50, this is a kit which includes two cones and heads, and five atomizers and tanks: Joye eGo-C Upgrade Kit - Upgrade your Joye eGo or eGot-T Ecig Now!

Your eGo-C should definitely not be tasteless- in fact I find the taste much improved without any filler material. I have had issues with 2 (out of over 100..) juices not wicking well, but others report they have not. It produces as much vapor as any other comparable e-cig I've tried.

Another nice attachment for eGo batts are the Smoktek (or is it smoktech?) dual coil cartomizers built for the eGo: Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop (out of stock at this store..)
 

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Thanks guys... I know you get what you pay for.. I'm not a dripper, been a carto girl from the beginning but was just looking for a way to test juices without wasting a whole carto.. and can't decide if it's worth spending $50 on... $20?? Maybe.. guess I'll have to think on it for another day:unsure:
 

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I first bought an EGO T and "upgraded" to genuine Joyetech C heads and attys. For me the flavor was mute with little throat hit. Just curious for those of you who actually like the EGO C. Have you ever used a cartomizer or dripped before?

Completely agree with Myk.

I'd also suggest steering clear of knockoffs - they may be partly to blame for bad experiences. From their site, it appears as though Joyetech controls the MSRP price on their products (like Apple). For $20 here is the kit you'd need: Joye eGo-C Sampler Set - Joye eGo Parts & Accessories

Maybe overkill, but for $50, this is a kit which includes two cones and heads, and five atomizers and tanks: Joye eGo-C Upgrade Kit - Upgrade your Joye eGo or eGot-T Ecig Now!

Your eGo-C should definitely not be tasteless- in fact I find the taste much improved without any filler material. I have had issues with 2 (out of over 100..) juices not wicking well, but others report they have not. It produces as much vapor as any other comparable e-cig I've tried.

Another nice attachment for eGo batts are the Smoktek (or is it smoktech?) dual coil cartomizers built for the eGo: Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop (out of stock at this store..)
 

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Hi Randy,

You bet. I'm dripping some DYI on an HH.357 powered by a ProVari V2 while I sit here at my desk. As for cartomizers, my favorite is the 1.5 Smoktech dual coil; though I rarely use them anymore as I'm happier with the eGo-C tank setup. I find that filler material of any sort interferes with flavor. The taste of burnt polyfill when cartos run low drives me batty. Have also tried CE2 and CE4 clearomizers and while I like them, I'm trying to mod the ones I have to improve the draw a little.

IMO, compared to dripping on a nice LR atomizer (357, Cisco, etc..) the flavor of anything else will seem a little muted by comparison. Dripping is nice when I can sit at my desk and have both hands free, most of the time though that isn't the case for me.

As for TH, I've find that to be a function of juice more than anything else- of-course power does a play a role. That said, you might want to try a LR eGo-C atty. Also, the stock eGo batteries aren't my favorite, I prefer something in a similar form factor with a little bit more power. Right now I'm using a KGO batt and there is a noticeable difference.
 

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I tried Boge LR cartos and found them too warm and harsh for me (eGo-C LR attys are also a bit warmer than I usually prefer). I also have a 306 atty that I occasionally use for dripping.

I think much of the muting and loss of TH that some people complain about with eGo tanks has to do with the buildup of condensation in the cone and mouthpiece part of the tank cartridge (some degree of condensation is inevitable whenever heated vapor comes into contact with a surface that has a lower temperature, including in cartos). I let up on the button just before I stop dragging so that all of the vapor is pulled through and not left in the cone and mouthpiece to condense. That doesn't stop the bit of condensation that occurs during dragging so once or twice a day I also remove the two little mouthpiece inserts and clean out the condensation with a cotton swab. I also usually swab out the inside of the cone whenever I refill or change the tank.
 

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I dripped my RN4072. It was the only way to avoid spitting mouthpieces and for the most part leaking into the battery.
No cartomizers (yet). I plan on getting something else because nothing will work best in all situations but for now the eGo-C works good enough that I'm going to focus on getting it backed up.

With cartridges in my RN4072 Johnson Creek Solstice would start out too menthol and then move to strong melon. With the eGo-C it had the proper blend the whole way through.
If I do try cartos I imagine I'll be ripping the stuffing out and making them into drippers. I get the idea that I'm not a fan of stuffing.

No vapor and no flavor to me says flooding.
The C is really no different than dripping once you learn to control how much is flowing to the coil. If you flood while dripping you get no vapor. If you run dry while dripping you get dry burn.
 

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Hi Chris, The two packs of "C" Heads and attys I bought were LR's. In the spirit of keeping an open mind, and... after reading some positive EGO C posts, I decided to try my C's again this afternoon. I pulled one out of my second package and I have to admit- much better than the the ones in my first pack. I may have wrongly condemned the Ego C set-up. The C atty I am vaping on right now has good vapor production and great flavor. It is a cooler vape than most cartomizers, but I can live with that. I'm thinking the first package was mis-labeled an were not LR's at all- and I tried all five in the pack.

I too am thru with wasting my money on carts, because I just can't stand the burnt taste I get. No matter how wet I keep them, or how often I blow out old juice, that burnt filler taste just hits me after a day of vaping. I am going to keep the C atty on my EGO for a few days and see how it does.. I do have some EGO Visions Clearomizers and Cisco 510 attys (with drip shield) on order and I'm excited to see how they do. The Visions clearomizer and EGO C attys (if my current one continues to perform) are definitly more cost effective than throwing out burnt carts every day.

Luvinit, I'll follow up to let you know how my C attys are performing. I assume that they will only get even better after about 5-6 hours of break-in, like most attys. In the mean time, if you do decide to order the C attys, make sure you order LR's and understand that the EGO tanks systems require a softer, slower drag that carts.

Hi Randy,

You bet. I'm dripping some DYI on an HH.357 powered by a ProVari V2 while I sit here at my desk. As for cartomizers, my favorite is the 1.5 Smoktech dual coil; though I rarely use them anymore as I'm happier with the eGo-C tank setup. I find that filler material of any sort interferes with flavor. The taste of burnt polyfill when cartos run low drives me batty. Have also tried CE2 and CE4 clearomizers and while I like them, I'm trying to mod the ones I have to improve the draw a little.

IMO, compared to dripping on a nice LR atomizer (357, Cisco, etc..) the flavor of anything else will seem a little muted by comparison. Dripping is nice when I can sit at my desk and have both hands free, most of the time though that isn't the case for me.

As for TH, I've find that to be a function of juice more than anything else- of-course power does a play a role. That said, you might want to try a LR eGo-C atty. Also, the stock eGo batteries aren't my favorite, I prefer something in a similar form factor with a little bit more power. Right now I'm using a KGO batt and there is a noticeable difference.
 

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Hi Chris, The two packs of "C" Heads and attys I bought were LR's. In the spirit of keeping an open mind, and... after reading some positive EGO C posts, I decided to try my C's again this afternoon. I pulled one out of my second package and I have to admit- much better than the the ones in my first pack. I may have wrongly condemned the Ego C set-up. The C atty I am vaping on right now has good vapor production and great flavor. It is a cooler vape than most cartomizers, but I can live with that. I'm thinking the first package was mis-labeled an were not LR's at all- and I tried all five in the pack.

I'm trying to remember if the eGo-C attys are marked anywhere to indicate LR- IIRC Joyetech does label their attys, just can't remember if it's the eGo attys or their 510s. Also, their quality control might be an issue- I've now had to toss 3 of their attys (within ~2 months, but rotating like 10 of them...) and also had one which was performing terribly from the get-go. Have also found they require a little burn in time before they get going well, so I'll usually put a drop of flavorless on them and give them a full burn before trying to use them. Still my first few drags with the tank on it will be junk. Once they get going though (assuming you've got good attys) they seem to perform OK. One poster recently stated he has gone four months without having to replace one, so I guess it's just a roll of the dice...

I too am thru with wasting my money on carts, because I just can't stand the burnt taste I get. No matter how wet I keep them, or how often I blow out old juice, that burnt filler taste just hits me after a day of vaping. I am going to keep the C atty on my EGO for a few days and see how it does.. I do have some EGO Visions Clearomizers and Cisco 510 attys (with drip shield) on order and I'm excited to see how they do. The Visions clearomizer and EGO C attys (if my current one continues to perform) are definitly more cost effective than throwing out burnt carts every day.

One word of advice on those, don't fiddle too much with them! Though it seems to be rare, they can come apart and make quite a mess :) For the most part though, they're pretty solid.

Luvinit, I'll follow up to let you know how my C attys are performing. I assume that they will only get even better after about 5-6 hours of break-in, like most attys. In the mean time, if you do decide to order the C attys, make sure you order LR's and understand that the EGO tanks systems require a softer, slower drag that carts.

This is great advice! Drawing too hard on these seems to be the #1 reason that people have leaking issues. I haven't had it happen to me, but have been told that once liquid starts moving past the reservoir towards your mouth, remove the tank carefully (grab a towel just in case) as it's likely to leak at this point, clean it and refill or use another.

There is another post (a sticky thread I think) here on ECF regarding the general use of e-cigs which recommends a gentle 5-10 second draw to get that perfect vape. To add to this, I'll often press the button a second before I start vaping, and I never draw directly into my lungs- first into the mouth for about 6-7 seconds for me, then inhale. I've found this works pretty well.
 

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I kind of like the C attys right off the bat. About 3 good puffs to burn off the factory juice then they're real good for 3-7 days depending on the juice. After that it requires a dry burn cleaning and they're back to new for another 3-7 days.

I'm not cleaning that often because I don't have enough spare batteries. Once I get a passthrough I probably will try cleaning one as soon as I notice a drop off in flavor to see how it holds up.

I'm hoping once I get a Twist I can turn up the power and either increase the flavor or burn it off every so often without really doing a dry burn.

Yes the key is in the draw pressure vs tank level and juice consistency.
 

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I'm trying to remember if the eGo-C attys are marked anywhere to indicate LR

The Joye LR eGo-C attys that I got from Cignot have "Cignot" laser-engraved on them with "LR" engraved under it. The Joye SR attys just have "Cignot" engraved on them. Like Myk, I find the C attys to be good from the get go, I just blow through a new one once or twice and wipe it off a bit, then load it up and start vaping. I have no idea what the knockoff attys are like, though, because I've never tried them.
 
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