Ego's Are Garbage (Warning to Newbs)

[specter9mm]

I wouldn't worry too much about off topic in here bud. I completely agree on the Kanger coils, they all leaked like crazy. Then I started rebuilding them, and the world of vaping got much brighter. I don't even buy stock coils any more, I have my friends at work save their used ones for me so I have a good supply of coil parts to rebuild.

PCBs?? Man, this is getting technical. Anyway I thought maybe I s/b worried about my 1300 Vision spnners, so I finally made it to the end of this thread (phew!).

Guess it wouldn't be worth it if I didn't write something, after that 122-post slog.

My on the the Joyetech 510T starter kit is that it was ... never buy another JT product again. Ditto Kanger Mini Pro 2 (leaked, ick) ... but hey, if they work for you, more power to ya

Oh yeah, and one more thing ...

If we all got even a tenth as royally about the that's being done to our right to as we did about equipment ... well, I'll just not finish that sentence, 'cuz it's

 

[Ohms Lawbreaker]

....Guess it wouldn't be worth it if I didn't write something, after that 122-post slog....

"Choose The Internet -- Ten Million Monkeys on Typewriters Are Bound To Come Up With Something Good." Felt same as you, and like I say, nothing good on TV tonight.

 

[SleeZy]

As if I don't have knowledge and insight? Trust me, I have a lot of knowledge, yet I can see that the egos are of low quality. If you want a good vaping experience, you are going to have to spend $300 or so to have it. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Maybe one day we can have high quality products made for much less than that, but so far American (and some Euro companies) are the only ones making high quality products. Innokin may be one exception, but they are about as expensive as their American counterparts.




I am not trying to discourage anyone. Indeed, as a new vapor, I am the one becoming discouraged because of all the trouble I have had from buying cheap products.

I spent about 70-80$ max for my starting equipment, you mad?
Because your local store having a bad batch of equipment, you are trying to blame whole china?

I'd say, try another store and buy authentic stuff.

 

[joelmora89]

Um buddy were do u think your made smh

 

[Plumes.91]

LAY OFF the poor new guy!!! He put his heart into a good 45 minutes of writing to warn people that in his experience, eGo batteries suck. Good for him. This is a FORUM. A FORUM. Like the great philosophical forums we all learn about in school. We're supposed to shout out what's on our mind no matter where we are in life, or this hobby.

With that said, I think eGo batteries are the perfect device for someone just starting out. Especially eGo spinner kits of 2 or more batteries at atleast 900 or 1000mah battery life. These kits work well for daily use, until their charging life has expired. I still use two eGos weekly. Usually in my pipe add-on for eGo batteries with a 1.5 ohm coil on my bed in front of the TV. ;D eGos are good. OP- I suggest you do a little research. Yes, smoktech puts out SOME products that have bad quality control issues. They also release products with bad design flaws. (like mods missing vent holes, or center pins so long you cannot use button top batteries in the mod) but then again, smoktech also brings us some of the best CHEAP mods & atomizers on the market. The Magneto for instance, is a VERY well made mod. Smoktech uses thick stainless steel. Their mods are "made" with "good" materials, and thick steel... The problem is they don't always think out their products before they release them. Which means we have to wait for revisions to get everything we want. (which means some people get stuck with the first version) The Magneto in it's current state, is a very hefty mod, and one of the cheapest mods on the market with a quality made magnetic switch. Smoktech also manufactures the RSST, one of the best, most easily rebuilt, genny style atty-tanks available for under 50 bucks.

In this hobby, you have GOT to read reviews, or you end up burned. One company can make terrible eGos, and also have the best item in a different category. Thats one reason why we're all on this forum. The discussions on mods and vaping items.

 

[Charlie C]

Thanks for your thoughts but really........... Original eGo's or something such as a "Spinner"
(A decent clone) are great batteries.
Buy knock offs or copies and that is what one may face.

I've always advocated original quality products and after purchasing some 12 eGo's, I will say that only 1 single battery provided issues.
It was replaced.

To say that an eGo is crap is well, crap.

I've helped a number of local people transition to vaping, it's a full time endeavor, and many have done so successfully, with eGo's.
Numbers don't lie.

I will go out on a limb and say this about the eGo.......

Of ALL the devices, then and now, I would put the eGo (Twist version) on the top of ANY list of suggested devices that ALL new vapers should try /own.

While I agree that a quality mod, such as the Provari (even a Vamo) may be a better choice in the long run, it's counter productive to eliminate the eGo from any recommended list of devices.

That's my

 

[Heynow007]

I'm getting paid 1/2 what I was ten years ago. Some people just don't have the $200 to buy a provari.... )$&()$&&fu


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[Plumes.91]

I can take a ride down the street to the metal fabrication warehouse and tell them that I'd like to make an e-cigarette mod. The secretary, making $14 an hour, would tell me that I need to file an appointment and bring proof of capital. The manager, making $40 an hour, would then meet with me to discuss details. I would meet with the owner of the shop and his workers, the drafter/designer, the engineer, the machine servicer, 2-3 machinists and some grunts. Each making 30-40 dollars an hour salaried. The owner would quote me 15 thousand dollars for X amount of units and we would begin the process. OR, in China, a family of 6, whom actually live in apartments provided by the machine shop, could make my X amount of units for 11 thousand USD, and these people would be more than happy with the wage and paid living expenses. Maybe they aren't as experienced as the US workers. Maybe they're using a stainless steel that is of a lower "grade" maybe they don't spend much time on design. The QC isn't as high. They may not want or need a 6 bedroom 5 bathroom two level house, maybe they don't go out to eat every other day like americans are used to. But they work! They have work. SKILLED work, that they can be proud of themselves for. We don't have much of that here.

Do you know of a single company that makes shoes in the United States? Nope. We don't make anything. China makes everything. China is experiencing an industrial revolution. We're pulling ourselves out of a recession. They are living in what we'd call poverty, or lower middle class. Happily, perhaps. We are all living uncontently in our classes, like entitled brats.

They are where we were 100 years ago. Except their population is ridiculous. We were the canary in the mine shaft. Now its time for them to manufacture. We lost our chance. Our political system is now basically controlled by the monopolies we've built up. Our schools are 16th in science, 28th in math. China's schools are first, in both. We're in a bad position right now.

 

[KenD]

As if I don't have knowledge and insight? Trust me, I have a lot of knowledge, yet I can see that the egos are of low quality. If you want a good vaping experience, you are going to have to spend $300 or so to have it. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Maybe one day we can have high quality products made for much less than that, but so far American (and some Euro companies) are the only ones making high quality products. Innokin may be one exception, but they are about as expensive as their American counterparts.

Not true at all! I haven't spent nearly $300 in total on the mods and batteries I have, and that's Egos, vv/vw-mods, and mechs. If I throw in all my toppers, liquids etc, then I've exceeded $300. You can have a good vape for less than $20.

My go to vv/vw device is an Innokin SVD. $37, nowhere close to $300.

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[KenD]

...I like bacon...

I love tofu, the original Chinese stuff...

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[rurwin]

Having SMOK on the box and stamped on the case is proof of nothing. China may or may not have laws about pollution, child labour or whatever, but they have no effective laws about trade marks and copyright. There are pirate copies of stuff like SD cards that come with all the right markings and holographic stickers; the only way to tell the difference is to look at the chip under a microscope. E-cigs are probably no different.

And just for the record, I have five eGo batteries, three Joytech, one Kangertech and one Vision. All of them work well.

 

[Fast and Furious]

and once again I state this is not an ego battery, it's an ego styled battery

He can't grasp the concept. I own a Chevrolet style GMC Pick-'em-Up-Truck......... my GMC was made in Canada. I should hate Canada because I had an issue? It's lost on this guy who, "...put his heart and soul", into a EGO 'style' hate topic.



Huh? Whazzat? ........."LAY OFF the poor new guy!!! He put his heart (and BOTH brain cells) into a good 45 minutes of writing to warn people that in his experience, eGo batteries suck. Good for him. This is a FORUM. A FORUM."

I feel as if a 'gawd' has spoken. My kneeing-rug has yet to come. I'm sooooooooooo humbled. Maybe I should head to Wal-Mart and pick up a "kneeling STYLE rug"? It seems "style" 'eGO' is not only lost on the OP. Lemme think that over a sec.

OK - I'm done.

Tom

 

[olderthandirt]

I love tofu, the original Chinese stuff...

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Really!
I thought it was Japanese all this time. So I did a simple google search and quickly found that indeed, China is indicated as the country of origin.

And I'd be willing to bet that Ken isn't bothered that I didn't take him at his word (-;

My wife does this tofu thing, sliced and pan fried in soy and peanut oil then covered in sesame seeds. Right tasty it is!

But I'd rather have bacon.

 

[Bunnykiller]

no wonder you are sour about the Ego batteries 200$ to figure out they are a low end device... took me just one purchase to figure that out....

 

[jwoode]

I'll bet someone else has set you straight - but lemma have a minute of your time.

You repeatedly say "eGo STYLE battery. So i presume (correct me if I am wrong) you purchased just that - an "eGo STYLE battery" - not a JoyeTech eGo-C / JoyeTech eGo-C Upgrade - a GENUINE JoyeTech product - not the knockoffs I believe you are describing.

So? Confirm my suspicion OR disprove them; I seriously doubt GENUINE JoyeTech eGO-C BATTERIES are what you have in your mitts.

As far as this: "So, for all of you veterans who tell newbs to "start with an Ego" I will have to firmly disagree. Ego's are garbage and should be completely bypassed for real equipment from day one." ............ to be blunt - you are full of hot air.

Tom

I agree.. but I don't think it's air.

 

[roadie]

As if I don't have knowledge and insight? Trust me, I have a lot of knowledge, yet I can see that the egos are of low quality. If you want a good vaping experience, you are going to have to spend $300 or so to have it. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Maybe one day we can have high quality products made for much less than that, but so far American (and some Euro companies) are the only ones making high quality products. Innokin may be one exception, but they are about as expensive as their American counterparts.




I am not trying to discourage anyone. Indeed, as a new vapor, I am the one becoming discouraged because of all the trouble I have had from buying cheap products.

This statement alone should void any further attempt at reason.........................

 

[Lastlokean]

Do you know of a single company that makes shoes in the United States? Nope. We don't make anything. China makes everything. China is experiencing an industrial revolution. We're pulling ourselves out of a recession. They are living in what we'd call poverty, or lower middle class. Happily, perhaps. We are all living uncontently in our classes, like entitled brats.

They are where we were 100 years ago. Except their population is ridiculous. We were the canary in the mine shaft. Now its time for them to manufacture. We lost our chance. Our political system is now basically controlled by the monopolies we've built up. Our schools are 16th in science, 28th in math. China's schools are first, in both. We're in a bad position right now.

I quite thoroughly disagree, and yes I know of a US company that makes shoes, Red Wing Shoes. Yes all of there factories are in Red Wing, MN just a few miles away. Yes they sell these shoes internationally, two of their biggest customers are Russia and China. Yes chinese workers buy $200+usd shoes made in the USA because they are 10x the quality anything you can get from Chinese factories. When you spend 40+ hours/week on your feet that really matters, these people make steel toe work boots that are more comfy than my moms bedside slippers.

I used to re-sell Microcig products in 2011, quit dealing with them due to atrocious lack of quality control, they pretty much design there stuff to break by using the thinnest possible gauge coil wire and using a MOSFET right at the limit on the voltage regulation/charging/button chip in the ego threading. I have a drawer I call the 'graveyard', in which all dead ego batteries that lasted less than 7 days of use go returned from my customer. I have ordered 300 ego batteries from Microcig, over 3 different orders. 128 of them ended up in the 'graveyard'. That assuredly qualifies my definition of 'junk product'. That is not an 'occasional failure' but a consistent 33% fail rate within the first 7 days of customers use. After going around to many different B&M and talking to them/seeing attempted returns, it is not just me, or uncommon for ego batteries to break.

The United States produces more food than anyone in the world and still has the #1 GDP, in 2012 it was just about double China's GDP. Sure, there has been a shift in our focus away from heavy manufacturing into service industries, that assuredly does not mean they are done manufacturing.

I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from SCSU, needless to say there were not many citizens among my graduating class... About 1/3 of them were from China/Malaysia, 1/6 from Nepal, 1/6 from Middle-East, 1/6 from Africa and of the remaining 1/6th of us only 3 were born in the united states the rest were from all over the place. Not one person I graduated with went back to there home country, they are now working with green cards in the industrial engineering world on the path to citizenship. Obviously we still have something awesome things going on in the United States that China is lacking. Where were all the US citizens at this college? Well, they were majoring in Business, Art, Social Sciences, Psychology, Meteorology, English. Not that there's anything wrong with those degrees, but they certainly are not the same 'environment' as Math, Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, Aerodynamics, Nuclear, etc.

If you want a good vaping experience, you are going to have to spend $300 or so to have it. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

You have obviously never heard of a mechanical device? Get yourself a $20-$30 mechanical device, 2 quality 18650 cells($20), an 18650 charger($20), and then any 510 compatible atomizer you want, I would recommend pretty much any of the RDA clones for starters($20). There you go, less than $100 and you are a vape champion.

 

[BigEgo]

I wouldn't worry too much about off topic in here bud. I completely agree on the Kanger coils, they all leaked like crazy. Then I started rebuilding them, and the world of vaping got much brighter. I don't even buy stock coils any more, I have my friends at work save their used ones for me so I have a good supply of coil parts to rebuild.

Ok, since I am a Debbie Downer about Ego's, I will happily say that I must disagree with the Protank being bad. I quite enjoy mine and have never had any serious issues with leakage. I did notice some leaking when I used those horrible short stem coils they tried to switch everyone to. But since I have stuck with the "long stem" I have had no issues whatsoever. I clean and dry burn mine every few days and they last me several weeks. The taste is fine, the tank is made of glass, and it looks good.

I see no reason to bash the protank. Of course, some people may not like BC clearos and that's cool. But if you want a BC clearo, I don't think there's anything better (haven't tried the Aero tank yet, but I hear good things about it and Aspire's Nautilus).

 

[LX1X]

I see no reason to bash the protank. Of course, some people may not like BC clearos and that's cool. But if you want a BC clearo, I don't think there's anything better (haven't tried the Aero tank yet, but I hear good things about it and Aspire's Nautilus).

Says the guy who bashed eGo.

If you like pro tanks... you should have tried kanger evod batteries.
Lol

 

[jwoode]

This is not a good thread.

It isn't good to diminish one of the most viable, affordable, and sound beginner options to vaping.
I have a pile of the devices in question, and have already given away several of them with mini protanks to family.
These things simply do not fail as described here.. and you all know that.

I came to this forum for answers and advice, then quit smoking after 40 years of smoking.
And I did it with the very equipment that is being discussed here.. because it was recommended by people here.