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So I got my ekowool in from stormy's this week, had boiled it earlier but didn't get a chance to build until today.

I did a practice real quick and seemed nice, even hit the practice one with a torch and it would stiffen up the ekowool a little bit.

So weilded another wire. Took more ekowool and hit it with the torch. Wrapped the coil on 2mm ekowool. Wrapping is a lot easier since the ekowool is stiffer then regular silica. I installed it on an ody (didn't want to tear down the ithakas till I know what works), got it installed. The 2mm ekowool is really tight down the channels, and I am wondering if this is affecting, or slowing down, my wicking some, or at least it seems that way.

I have some 1mm ekowool, may try that after I vape some more of this tank and see how it goes. I saw someone else post about 1.5 mm hollow ekowool. If the 1mm is to small, may have to look and order the 1.5. Overall the eko seems nice, great flavor, not sure if it is beyond silica, but eko does seem a lot less fragile then silica which I like.

Anyone else think the 2mm is to thick for the channels, primarily the metal channel?
 

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Here you go sub. This is after one tank so it's just getting seasoned. It's a single coil/two wick (as you can see lol). Dual coil MrKrinkle won't protrude anymore than a normal dual and you have coil height adjustability if you need it.
I think I'll try a dual now on my other Ithaka....want to get more heating surface.
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That looks beautiful, almost like a nicely grilled steak.
 

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So I got my ekowool in from stormy's this week, had boiled it earlier but didn't get a chance to build until today.

I did a practice real quick and seemed nice, even hit the practice one with a torch and it would stiffen up the ekowool a little bit.

So weilded another wire. Took more ekowool and hit it with the torch. Wrapped the coil on 2mm ekowool. Wrapping is a lot easier since the ekowool is stiffer then regular silica. I installed it on an ody (didn't want to tear down the ithakas till I know what works), got it installed. The 2mm ekowool is really tight down the channels, and I am wondering if this is affecting, or slowing down, my wicking some, or at least it seems that way.

I have some 1mm ekowool, may try that after I vape some more of this tank and see how it goes. I saw someone else post about 1.5 mm hollow ekowool. If the 1mm is to small, may have to look and order the 1.5. Overall the eko seems nice, great flavor, not sure if it is beyond silica, but eko does seem a lot less fragile then silica which I like.

Anyone else think the 2mm is to thick for the channels, primarily the metal channel?

It might be too thick since these Ekowools will expand when in contact with liquid. You should try out the Krinkle method, take the wicks out of the channel and cut it where the channels start, like what RiverNut did with his on the page before this one.
 

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Thanks doke. May have to give it a go, may try that with my ody dripper when it needs rebuilt.

Just tore down the ody build, as I couldn't take my than one vape without a dryish hit even opened two full turns. After all drys may give a go with the 1mm.

It might be too thick since these Ekowools will expand when in contact with liquid. You should try out the Krinkle method, take the wicks out of the channel and cut it where the channels start, like what RiverNut did with his on the page before this one.
 

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Should be getting my eko today. I have my twik working nicely. Can't wait to try it. Oddly all but the two devices with the twik needs rebuilding. What a shame. ;)


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Are the others ekowool or plain silica?

OOPs I thought you already where using Eko.
 
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Are the others ekowool or plain silica?

OOPs I thought you already where using Eko.

The "others" are silica. I received my cotton eko Tuesday. Did a setup in a penny then after a quick boil. Next day did one ithaka. Today I am expecting hollow eko. And those "others" are going to be tested. :)
 

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Oddly I didn't even try torching it. I boiled it. Went for about 20 minutes. I had maybe 15 minutes of cotton taste left behind. Not a big deal. My first test was it in a Penny with Bobas. I have done one dry burn. And two sessions of it opened wide at 7V. Held up nicely as far as I can tell. But it will need a change today or tomorrow. I'm finding it's not staying clean. But Bobas usually is in the crapper for me at day 2.

So this weekend I'll take it apart, and examine the wick. I'm hoping the wick is fine and I just need new wire. Maybe even only another dry burn. But today's shipment should include ribbon and hollow. If that happens ill likely swap for hollow, Krinkle, ribbon anyway.


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I had high hopes with this .5 ribbon dual with 2mm hollow eko

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but it didn't want to heat up for some reason. Total restistance was 1 ohm so...idk...too much to heat up maybe? My NR wire is 32ga. Could that be too small?

So I did another just like it but with .3 ribbon and 1mm hollow eko and it's much better but it still seems a little weak to me. MrKrinkles method isn't bad but with my thin juice I find it easier to maintain consistent saturation with wick in the channels. Twik seems a little more consistent for saturation but longevity will ultimately be the deciding factor for me.
 

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Hmm. Interesting. Maybe that will be my first try. But around an ody so half the coils.

Personally I know for me longevity is important. On the other side of my coin, I'm still willing to sacrifice longevity for fuller vapor, flavor and TH. We shall see.

The boba penny is going to have to get light treatment I think. Monday I'm expecting El Kamino. Hearing good reviews and hoping it replaces Bobas.


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So just tried 1 mm eko, hollow. Fits much better in the channels but very little wick at the coil leads to dry hits.

Thinking 1.5 would be needed. Not sure what would fit in the ithaka.

May give the 2mm a go with the krinkle method today or tomorrow.

Long, put a small nail in the hollow eko to aid your wrap. It keeps them consistent and creates a "form" so your eko retains a round hollow shape at the coil.
BTW I don't have any problem with 2mm hollow fitting in Ithaka.
 

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Thanks River. I used a small syringe on the 1mm, but didn't do that on the 2mm. Without the syring on the 2mm it was easy to wrap.

Think I will stick to silica on the ody/peny, unless I try the krinkle method. When i think it is time to rewick the ithakas I will try out the 2mm.

The eko seems great, specially the durability. Maybe if I feel like it down the road I will try hollow 1.5 for the ody/penny.

Long, put a small nail in the hollow eko to aid your wrap. It keeps them consistent and creates a "form" so your eko retains a round hollow shape at the coil.
BTW I don't have any problem with 2mm hollow fitting in Ithaka.
 

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Ok. Boba's Bounty DESTROYED the cotton filled eko. 5 days, a couple dry burns and couple 7V vape sessions.

On the flip side, silica lasts about 2-3 days. I can push it further, but flavor is way off. And if I can't enjoy it, I'd rather recoil it.

I guess I'm going to try the eko with boba's after all. :)
 

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Thanks for the pic RiverNut.
I finally just set ekowool up with the MrKrinkle method on my Ithaka. Here's a photo:

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The first coils I set up I used too thick of a needle to wrap the wire and the coil was too loose so I had to do it again with a smaller needle, now it's working perfectly.

So far so good! I'm getting a couple dry hits but only because I'm afraid to open the mouthpiece too much. Starting to get the feel for how much to open it, though. Thanks for all the help guys!

On a side note, it's the first time filling my tank up with a DIY juice I made, and it's delicious. Only problem is I accidentally made it around 12mg and not 18mg.. so I will be making a new batch and letting it steep while I vape this 12mg.
The main components of the juice are 3 types of tobaccos, maple, graham cracker and brown sugar (along with other notes) - so good!
 

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and on a side note, here's the first setup where the coil was too loose:
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I should have known just by looking at the coil (I mean, duh.. just look at it! It didn't seem as loose before I actually built it, I swear!).. oh well, it's all good now!

So if yours looks like this, use a smaller needle to wrap your coil!
 

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Ok. Done. Hollow eko with .5 ribbon wire. I have to admit, I HATE it. Well, with Boba's anyway. The eko is NOT wicking, not keeping up, no matter how the MP is adjusted and how open it is. This is the polar opposite of what the cotton filled eko wicked like. I mean, 2 pulls, then dry. Wait, lay it down, whatever. 2-3 pulls, then dry. For those not familiar, Bobas is my wick eater - VG at it's best. This setup may be better suited for a VG/PG blend. I'll keep working it for the night.

But here are some pics.

This was the setup before the ribbon eko. It was 32g KanA1 wire on the cotton filled eko (Twik from ebay)





 

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The boba penny is going to have to get light treatment I think. Monday I'm expecting El Kamino. Hearing good reviews and hoping it replaces Bobas.

I just got some El Kamino in the mail today. I'm going to try it out in a few minutes. I still have my build on the Penelope of using Twik Ekowool with cotton core using MrKrinkle method. Hopefully the El Kamino will taste just as good as Boba's. Upon inspection of El Kamino...it smells nice, like Boba's but I can tell that it's a thinner juice than Boba's just by inspecting the bottle. It says on the website that it's a 60/40 VG/PG blend. It's similar in color. Hopefully it will taste nice.

Sorry this is not on topic with the Ekowool thread.
 
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