Electronic cigarettes in legal limbo

[MrsAngelD]

Electronic cigarettes in legal limbo - Chicago Sun-Times

This popped up in the news feeds so I thought I would post it.

 

[xg4bx]

“You can’t tell me that these flavorings aren’t designed to attract kids,”

to play devils advocate, so what if they do? it's not my responsibility. i'd rather have these hypothetical kids vape than swipe a pack of newports if they're inclined to smoke.

these people will simply never (expletive deleted) get it. it's not even worth wasting your breath on them. how many flavors of vodka alone are there? 'nuff said.

 

[foggy1]

Not bad...Thanks for posting

 

[kristin]

A better argument than "flavored liquor" against the "flavors for attracting kids" objection is that FDA-approved nicotine gums (kids love gum) and lozenges (which look like candy) come in Cinnamon Surge, Fresh Mint, Cool Mint, Cappuccino, Fruit Chill, Orange and Cherry. "Chill?" "Cool?" "Surge?" What adults use those terms?? (sarcasm) Nicorette Minis look exactly like Tic Tacs and have funny commercials that make kids laugh, too.

Is the FDA allowing pharmaceutical companies to target children??

 

[kristin]

Talk about sticking your foot in your mouth. That guy saying he "overdosed on nicotine!" What an idiot! At least explain that your body knows when you've had enough so you can't vape to the point where you can poison yourself!

Sometimes vapers are our own worst enemy!

 

[Turnkeys]

Ok so I'll try again since the forum "ate my homework!" lol

This article made me angry and it's not even close to the worst I've read.. But I agree, this guy isn't helping us. If he's vaping to the point of OD, someone needs to take away his PV, and his PC.

Who remembers when they used to smoke when they'd occasionally get a "hot cigg"? One with tons more nicotine than the rest of the pack, or carton? Those happen when the sprayer on the production line glitches and applys too much solution to the product. Few people realize the nicotine in analogs is added, it's how they get measured amounts.

I remember having to lay down for 20-30 mins, after smoking less than half of my first cigg in the morning, no instructions on that pack either. heh

 

[Sassyonemeis]

Anyone else notice that whenever they talk about e-cigs they always get into the lost taxes (it's about the money from taxes on tobacco)

 

[Thulium]

"Overdose" is a tricky word. Many tobacco users refer to it as an "overdose" any time they consume more nicotine than normal not realizing that the medical definition of the word means something more specific. That isn't a nicotine overdose but a common nicotine "buzz" that is a VERY long way from a medical overdose and even farther away from an overdose severe enough to actually cause serious harm or death.

Almost any time I receive an order of e-liquid, I end up vaping a lot more nicotine than normal. I've even gotten as far as making myself slightly lightheaded so I'll back off a bit and have no problem. If I were to continue it could get worse, but guess what? I won't continue. Once people get enough nicotine to satisfy their craving, they stop. Ever taken one or two drags on a cigarette and then put it out because you've had enough? The problem with the patch is that it continues to deliver nicotine whether you need it or not. E-cigs don't have that problem, though it is possible to get more nicotine than you expect if you accidentally spill some e-liquid, but--just like if you get a bit of tobacco in your mouth while smoking a cigarette--you simply spit it out if you don't like it. As we all know, just because the vapor might smell nice doesn't mean e-liquid tastes good enough to drink to overdose.

 

[Turnkeys]

Very valuable distinction, Thalium. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Bustastew]

Joel Africk can kiss my ###

 

[t9c]

Oh what crap! I knew where this one was heading in the very first paragraph:

Legally, it is not a cigarette, nor is it a nicotine replacement therapy that can help you quit smoking.

1st sentence: And e-mail is not mail. Get over it already.
2nd sentence: Oh really! Maybe that's where they should have put the word legally.

 

[Vocalek]

I'll share my 2nd comment. You have to register to even view comments, I think.

I should add that the products are not in legal limbo. The FDA is in legal limbo. The Federal courts have advised the FDA that they can only use the Food, Drug, and Costmetics Act to regulate the electronic cigarettes that make health claims. The FDA can only regulat all other electronic cigarettes under the Tobacco Act. The FDA refuses to abide by the decision of the courts. The FDA's appeal to have the case heard by the full membership of the District Appeals Court has been turned down. I can't imagine how the FDA could convince the Supreme Court that the Agency's constitutional rights are being violated, because the U.S. Constitution protects citizens, not government agencies.