"Electronic cigarettes: Safety concerns and regulatory issues"

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There’s a recent article on e-cigs in the scientific journal ‘Am J Health Syst Pharm’. This article is authored by two people affiliated to the FDA. I expect that the article might well reflect the current position of the FDA. Unfortunately, however, I have no access to this subscription-secured publication, here. Maybe someone on this forum has access - and could kindly post a summaryof this article:
Wollscheid and Kremzner (2009): Electronic cigarettes: Safety concerns and regulatory issues
Am J Health Syst Pharm.66: 1740-1742
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From the abstract:

"In this article the author focuses the issues concerning the safety and regulatory of electronic cigarettes in the U.S. It presents the design of the electronic cigarette which comprises of three general components which include a nicotine cartridge, a smart chip and an atomization chamber. It suggests health care providers to advise cigarette smokers that electronic cigarettes are not a proven alternative to conventional cigarettes thus, the use of this product is highly discouraged."

Update note: the document type for this article has been submitted as "Opinion"

Update 2: the article is very short (at just over two pages); I'll post some key arguments and the authors' references. But nothing was said that isn't already known by this community (ECF), and the claims made by the authors are fully in line with the claims the FDA has been making for some time (see: FDA News Release and FDA Import Alert).
 
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Hi Kamanjah;
Unfortunately, The AJHP or ASHP are both "hospital" pharmacy journals(although technically any pharmacist can subscribe-but I'm not a subscriber-I'm a clinical retail pharmacist technically) I tried to pay the one time fee of$25 just out of curiosity, but the link it took me too did not have a valid certificate and was broken???. If you ever see a similar article refernced in either Pharmacy Digest or the Journal of the American Pharmacist Association(JAphA) I can get access to it, and will probably read it and comment as soon as I see it.
However, by just reading the Abstract of this article I can tell you, this is not a "favorable" outlook on E-cig(As I wouldn't expect it to be, as Pharmacy organizations/journals/pharmacists themselves(officially) pretty much have to tote the FDA line, since they are required to follow all FDA regs). I wouldn't worry though this is just a commentary article(somewhat analogous to the letters to the editor in a newspaper) so it really holds no significant "clinical" weight at all. Anytime you need any further advice feel free to PM me.
P.S. I also PM'd you this response.
 

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It suggests health care providers to advise cigarette smokers that electronic cigarettes are not a proven alternative to conventional cigarettes thus, the use of this product is highly discouraged."

Is that the official stance of the FDA? Given a choice A or B
A) smoking with a 100% chance of killing you and
B) vaping with X% chance of killing you

They discourage choice B. Therefore they encourage choice A! Are they out of their ****ing minds? :mad:
 

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Is that the official stance of the FDA?

As disclaimers commonly go in the world of journal articles, this article is no exception: "The views expressed [by the authors] do not necessarily represent the views of the Food and Drug Administration." (Disclaimer on p. 1 of the article; portion in green is my edit)

The authors are:
Kristine A. Wollscheid, B.A., A.S.N., RN (Consumer Safety Officer, FDA)

CAPT Mary E. Kremzner, Pharm.D. (Deputy Division Director, FDA)
 
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Is that the official stance of the FDA? Given a choice A or B
A) smoking with a 100% chance of killing you and
B) vaping with X% chance of killing you

They discourage choice B. Therefore they encourage choice A! Are they out of their ****ing minds? :mad:

Unfortunately, since there are no randomized, placebo controlled, double-blinded clinical studies, that the FDA accepts as valid that show e-cigs are safe and effective up to this point, yes.
And, no, they're not technically out of their minds, but they are going strictly by the book(their regulations).

As has been discussed, ad Naseum, on this forum, part of the blame is with SE who knowingly made, and still make, claims that haven't been approved prior to marketing. This is the real shame, because as any e-cig user with logic knows, you're right, vaping has to be safer, hands down.
 

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that the FDA accepts as valid that show e-cigs are safe and effective up to this point, yes.
You fell right into their trap. It is not meant to be "effective" for anything. It is not a drug that cures cancer or nic addiction. It is an alternative to smoke inhalation.
Therefore testing to ascertain effectiveness does not apply.
 

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You fell right into their trap. It is not meant to be "effective" for anything. It is not a drug that cures cancer or nic addiction. It is an alternative to smoke inhalation.
Therefore testing to ascertain effectiveness does not apply.

Yes but SE was and still is promoting this product as a smoking cessation(NRT) device. Look, I understand your point, I'm a pharmacist and I agree with you. I fell into no one's trap. Since this issue has about 64 other open discussion threads on this forum you can more then happily voice your opinion in one of them. I'm done talking about this. I've been on almost all of the 64 threads reading and posting. Even the Mods on this forum agree, SE screwed up. If they would have handled the marketing of this product differently from the jump, they(and we as vapers and other e-cig suppliers) would not be caught up in this mess. One more thing, even if they would never had made smoking cessation claims, they still don't have any studies showing safety that are recognized by the FDA. Quite the opposite actually, the 18 carts the FDA did test did more harm then good since one of them contained a PG adulterant(DEG on the FDA's adulterant list) and they all contained small levels of a carcinogen known as TSNA's(albeit in tiny amounts). So there goes your "carcinogen free" claim out the window.

They just should have said this is a non-combustive smoking alternative, that simulates the experience of smoking without many of the known harmful combustion products. *

*This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to treat, cure, mitigate, diagnose yada, yada, yada"

Ok, that's my final word.
 

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You cannot agree and understand my point and at the same time assume that SE screwed up. SE did not make statements that are not true. IT IS A SMOKING CESSATION DEVICE. Can you imagine anyone simultaneously vaping and smoking an analog? No, therefore an e-cig is literally a smoking cessation device. No need to play with words or redefine terms.

Then they,by law, must go through the FDA approvals process and apply for a NDA(New Drug Application) for their new smoking cessation(Nicotine replacement Therapy)drug/device combo. Which they did not do(Hey, I didn't write the law, I and everyone else, just have to follow them). Again, please refer to the dozens of threads that have already covered this topic from every possible angle. Also , there are many, many, many people who both vape and still smoke(My girlfriend being one of them). You obviously haven't explored the many subforums and threads on this forum.

Ok, there's my final word, I promise. you can now argue with whoever else you want. I got vaping to do.
 

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You cannot agree and understand my point and at the same time assume that SE screwed up. SE did not make statements that are not true. IT IS A SMOKING CESSATION DEVICE. Can you imagine anyone simultaneously vaping and smoking an analog? No, therefore an e-cig is literally a smoking cessation device. No need to play with words or redefine terms.


Aditas--as Markarich159 points out to you, SE must go though the FDA's full application process if it want to make claims or be considered an NRT---so please get the facts straight and do some reading before you post.

Thank You,

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You cannot agree and understand my point and at the same time assume that SE screwed up. SE did not make statements that are not true. IT IS A SMOKING CESSATION DEVICE. Can you imagine anyone simultaneously vaping and smoking an analog? No, therefore an e-cig is literally a smoking cessation device. No need to play with words or redefine terms.
I think the FDA considers a smoking cessation device one that eliminates the addiction to nicotine, not just smoke. So, under that definition, e-cigs do not qualify - you still inhale nicotine.

But a lot of vapers continue to smoke tobacco, albeit reduced, and many health professionals worry that people will return to smoking, even with use of e-cig, because it does not break the cycle of the habits & sensations of smoking tobacco the way NRTs & other smoking cessation devices are meant to do. NRT = smoking cessation device = NRT, per the FDA.

They would have been better off pushing the reduced harm angle and not claiming that they help you "stop smoking". You are still inhaling nicotine in the manner of tobacco smoking, you've just replaced one habit for another. You're still "smoking" in just about every sense of the word except that there is nothing burning. Yes, it's healthier, but you're still going through all of the motions of smoking and still addicted to nicotine.

Reduced harm should have been claimed, not that it helps you quit smoking. Saying something is a smoking cessation device implies that it gets you off nicotine. That's where these companies or their affiliates crossed the line with the FDA.
 
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The authors offer arguments in two realms: the FDA's regulatory powers, and health.

Regulatory Argument

The authors assert:1
The electronic cigarettes that have been investigated by FDA are not subject to the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act. Thus, they do not fit within the regulatory scheme that Congress has established for tobacco products.

However, 2
Since FDA is not aware of any data establishing that such products are generally recognized among scientific experts as safe and effective, these products are new drugs, as defined by the Federal Food, Drug,and Cosmetic Act of 1938, requiring approval of a new drug application (NDA) to be legally marketed in the United States.

As noted by markarich159 and concerning the "intended use" issue (see Sun Vaporer's coverage of Smoking Everywhere V. FDA [the Daily Docket Sheet Update]), the authors state:3
Although no electronic cigarette has received FDA-approved labeling, manufacturers continue to make unfounded claims.

Furthermore,4
Based on consumer inquiries to FDA, electronic cigarettes appear to be viewed by the general public as an aid to smoking cessation.

In terms of the FDA's regulatory power:5
Independent of the new tobacco legislation, FDA has regulatory jurisdiction over nicotine replacement therapies and other non-nicotine containing oral medications that are marketed as smoking-cessation aids.

It is clear from these arguments that the FDA asserts regulatory power over e-cigarettes.

Health Argument

The authors state:6
Chronic systemic exposure to nicotine has been found to contribute to accelerated coronary artery disease, acute cardiac ischemic events, and hypertension. Other potential adverse effects of nicotine include stroke, delayed wound healing, reproductive toxicity, peptic ulcer disease, and esophageal reflux.

Discussed in older posts on this forum, as well as by Michael Siegel on his blog, is the scope of testing on e-cigarette liquid. The authors note that the FDA only tested two brands7 (one being, presumably, Smoking Everywhere) . The conclusions drawn from this test have been discussed elsewhere, and, to avoid redundancy, will not be posted and discussed here.

One striking claim by the authors is that 8
These products may be attractive to minors who may be drawn to the technology, flavoring, and accessibility.

The authors provide no in-paper references to clinical or academic studies to support this claim; however, they may be relying on the facts behind the passage of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009 to carry that weight.


Conclusion

Based on FDA studies of two e-cigarette brands, and the health effects of nicotine cited above, the authors conclude that e-cigarettes are not a proven, safe alternative. Furthermore, the FDA has the power to regulate e-cigarettes as a new drug.

As I stated before, much of what has been written has already been discussed. Much of it is now at the forefront in the legal proceedings in Smoking Everywhere V. FDA (I recommend you follow Sun Vaporer's updates on the ordeal).

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1. Kremzner, Mary E. and Kristine A. Wollscheid. "Electronic cigarettes: Safety concerns and regulatory issues," American Journal of Health-System Pharmacy 66, no. 19 (October 2009): 1741.

2. Ibid

3. Ibid; The authors reference Smoking Everywhere's website to assert the claim.

4. Ibid

5. Ibid, 1740.

6. Ibid. 1741.

7. Ibid, 1740.

8. Ibid, 1741.
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Hope this helps Tom
 
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You cannot agree and understand my point and at the same time assume that SE screwed up. SE did not make statements that are not true. IT IS A SMOKING CESSATION DEVICE. Can you imagine anyone simultaneously vaping and smoking an analog? No, therefore an e-cig is literally a smoking cessation device. No need to play with words or redefine terms.

Enough. You are missing the point entirely.

The FDA was created for the sole purpose of monitoring and regulating all medical drugs and devices. One of the provisions handed to them, written into law, was that they are to monitor any medical claims made. By law, all claims must be proven.

"Proof," according to the FDA (and just about every credible scientist) does NOT mean "i use it and it works for me" (too subjective), nor does it mean a handful of miscellaneous studies conducted in New Zealand, South Africa and god knows where else (inadequate). Scientific proof means several verifiable, reliable randomized clinical trials (if you don't know what i mean by this, google it) conducted to very strict standards to avoid any mistakes or bias. This takes years and LOTS of money, something that no e-cig manufacturer or seller has even attempted.

By law, if a medical claim is not proven to these strict clinical standards, it cannot be made. This law was designed to protect people from false advertising of medicine that might do them harm. If a retailer refuses to stop making these claims and still has not shown proof, then he is in violation of the law and the FDA has the authority to demand he stop selling his product. End of story.

And before you say anything: no, i am not on the FDA's "side." I am sick and tired of people on this forum acting like when someone states what the law is and what the FDA does, it must mean they are on the FDA's "side." It is a statement of fact, not opinion. Same with the SE business. SE did not screw up by stating a falsehood, they screwed up by making an unverified medical claim and thus violating the law.

Do you understand now?
 

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Enough. You are missing the point entirely.

The FDA was created for the sole purpose of monitoring and regulating all medical drugs and devices. One of the provisions handed to them, written into law, was that they are to monitor any medical claims made. By law, all claims must be proven.

Irrelevant. Smoking cessation is NOT A MEDICAL CLAIM. Smoking is not a disease. Can you follow along and comprehend the point?
 

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Irrelevant. Smoking cessation is NOT A MEDICAL CLAIM. Smoking is not a disease. Can you follow along and comprehend the point?

Oh, i understand exactly what you're saying.

But you're still wrong.

Just because you say it's not a medical claim, doesn't make it any less of a medical claim.
 
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