Emerald Green ProVari 2.5 Ruined Finish

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The Ocelot

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This is the picture that gets me:

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I keep all of my ProVarii in flexi-sleeves. I put them in as soon as they arrive. The only mark on a ProVari that has ever occurred from a sleeve was a hairline scratch on the back above the LED screen, where it rubbed against the metal fastener holding the D-ring on. I can't imagine what in the sleeve would possibly damage the bottom cap like that. It looks like there are chips all across the bottom and the sleeve doesn't even come in contact with the entire bottom.

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Could be the paint formula has changed because of EPA regulations. I know people who take cars down to Mexico to get painted, because paint is completely unregulated there, so paints which last longer and are more durable are available, which have been regulated out of existence in the US...

I recently ordered a green one and noticed something on the page I hadn't seen before for any of the other solid colors:

NOTE: We recommend ordering the extended end cap option when you purchase this device, so they match. Due to the variance in paint on the end cap, if you order the extended end cap at a later time we cannot match it to your device.


The finish on the green doesn't look like any of the other colors. I was expecting it to be metallic similar to the bronze, but it isn't. Maybe there was a new coating method or additive to the Cerokote that's not working right.
 

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I have 9 sleeves from SG..and 4 provari that go in them ..stealth black, white, red, and bronze. Had them 6 months and NONE of them have so much as a scratch.

This is definitely a problem w provape. emerald green batch went bad or some steps got skipped in the process.
I love the SG sleeves because I have a hard time with holding onto metals without dropping them. Leather gives me a better grip to it imho.

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Holster would work on a Provari the same as on a pistol, as far as I can see. The photos are showing a uniform wear, not heavy wear on the end cap. Again, once it's in the holster, no more wear till it is removed. Same as a handgun.
The end cap does have a fairly high amount of chipping, but it is on the sides that contact the holster.

Cerakote is tough stuff.
We have been using it in the firearms community for quite a while, and I can assure you it withstands levels of use and abuse which a mod does not see.

with that kind of early wear either the prep pr application was bad OR there was a bad batch cerakote.
I'm leaning towards this, my AR is Cerakoted and it's taken quite a bit more punishment and many more hours of use than this ProVari and it cleans up to better condition.

Damn after all this pbusardo video/customer service/quality control circlejerk, pro vape told you to pound sand, when clearly this finish is defective... My iphone (black aluminum) has been in the apple leather case since I bought it, it's flawless.
To be clear, they told me to contact SG and see what they have to say. She mentioned that she didn't know if it would be covered under warranty unless I sent it in for inspection.

This is the picture that gets me:
UKewFWA.jpg


I keep all of my ProVarii in flexi-sleeves. I put them in as soon as they arrive. The only mark on a ProVari that has ever occurred from a sleeve was a hairline scratch on the back above the LED screen, where it rubbed against the metal fastener holding the D-ring on. I can't imagine what in the sleeve would possibly damage the bottom cap like that. It looks like there are chips all across the bottom and the sleeve doesn't even come in contact with the entire bottom.
withprovari.jpg
I took some more pictures to clear this up, there was some dust on the bottom in the picture that looked like chips on the bottom cap. The damage really is centered on the point that contacts the sleeve.

Pics:
http://i.imgur.com/1A5JaC9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q79XeCi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6FHFgUg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Nq2kMBr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IfLEuHu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uZRG7Ta.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HwUJ3VD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ySrZlKh.jpg

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This is the response from ProVape
Wow, I am very sorry to hear about this. I'll be admit, I have not heard of this "Flexi-Sleeve" so I had to Google it. That's a nice looking holster! In looking at the pictures you attacked, I have to think that those scratches are likely the result of this holster. The scratch pattern looks pretty consistent with taking it out and putting it back into the sleeve.

I think it might be a good idea to contact Serenity Gear to see what they have to say. I'm curious to know if they have experienced this type of scratching before. Your welcome to send it in to us so we can take a look at it. I really couldn't say if this is something that would be covered under warranty or not, but I think the best first step might be to contact them.

Please keep me posted. Thank you!

This is the response from SG
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you - I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out what could cause this problem.

Other than adhesive wraps removing the coating on satin finish models, I've never heard of anything like this happening before. I've sold a ton of sleeves and holsters over the last three years, so it seems like some one would have said something by now if there was a problem with the finish rubbing off due to the holsters or sleeves.

I have chrome finish and satin finish ProVaris which are in and out of sleeves dozens of times each day. I test the fit of each and every sleeve or holster multiple times in the production process, and again before shipping them, and only the satin shows very minor wear, not nearly as bad as yours, even though it's almost two years old.

Assuming that the sleeve isn't full of sand or grit or something, I can only guess that there is a problem with the finish on the ProVari. Whether it's your particular device, or a problem with the new emerald green finish in general, your best bet would probably be to contact ProVape and explain the situation to see if there is anything they can do to help you out.

I was thinking about ordering one of the emerald green models myself, so I would very much appreciate it if you would let me know how you make out, if you have the time.

I'm leaning towards an issue with the finish, I'm not working with sand and grit all day. There is nothing rough in the sleeve.
 
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It's a problem with the paint. My black end cap for mine shows the exact same wear/chip pattern. It was from me putting my provari in and out of my empty front pocket of my bluejeans. I'm thinking that the paint is extremely thin around the curved area of the bottom. Also, there seems to be a sharp line near the rounded part of the bottom. Yours seems to have the same line on yours. Looks like it needed to be lightly sanded smooth before painted.

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I recently ordered a green one and noticed something on the page I hadn't seen before for any of the other solid colors:

NOTE: We recommend ordering the extended end cap option when you purchase this device, so they match. Due to the variance in paint on the end cap, if you order the extended end cap at a later time we cannot match it to your device.


The finish on the green doesn't look like any of the other colors. I was expecting it to be metallic similar to the bronze, but it isn't. Maybe there was a new coating method or additive to the Cerokote that's not working right.

i recall a similar disclaimer from when i purchased mine. i thought nothing of it since i've worked in printing and painting and know it's horribly uncommon to get perfectly matching batches of paint or pigment from one to the next. to be honest, i thought i'd seen it on the page for each color provari at the time, but can't be sure. i'm inclined to think the disclaimer's possibly a throw back from an earlier date that hasn't been updated on that page. dunno... but i've seen it before... on an all black provari to be specific. that color i know for sure.
 

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i recall a similar disclaimer from when i purchased mine. i thought nothing of it since i've worked in printing and painting and know it's horribly uncommon to get perfectly matching batches of paint or pigment from one to the next. to be honest, i thought i'd seen it on the page for each color provari at the time, but can't be sure. i'm inclined to think the disclaimer's possibly a throw back from an earlier date that hasn't been updated on that page. dunno... but i've seen it before... on an all black provari to be specific. that color i know for sure.

I'd seen the disclaimer for the Zombie and the hybrid colors, which made sense to me, but I don't recall seeing it for any of the solid colors - including black. One would think that recommendation would be on every page, due to color batches; one of my blacks is a different shade from the others, although it's barely noticeable.
 

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The end cap does have a fairly high amount of chipping, but it is on the sides that contact the holster.


I'm leaning towards this, my AR is Cerakoted and it's taken quite a bit more punishment and many more hours of use than this ProVari and it cleans up to better condition.


To be clear, they told me to contact SG and see what they have to say. She mentioned that she didn't know if it would be covered under warranty unless I sent it in for inspection.


I took some more pictures to clear this up, there was some dust on the bottom in the picture that looked like chips on the bottom cap. The damage really is centered on the point that contacts the sleeve.

Pics:
http://i.imgur.com/1A5JaC9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q79XeCi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6FHFgUg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Nq2kMBr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IfLEuHu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uZRG7Ta.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HwUJ3VD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ySrZlKh.jpg

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This is the response from ProVape


This is the response from SG


I'm leaning towards an issue with the finish, I'm not working with sand and grit all day. There is nothing rough in the sleeve.

It's curious ProVape isn't familiar with SG, since so many of us have the sleeves. My money is on the coating. Tim (SG) is a stand up guy and a ProVari enthusiast. He make more sleeves for the ProVari than any other mod.

1) I've kept all of my ProVarii in SG sleeves for going on two years without issue.
2) Metallic green is a new finish for ProVape and more than one has had issues with chipping.

Logic is your friend.
 

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But, you don't understand the angst, Ocelot. Last month, I completely fell for the Emerald Green Mini, but couldn't force it into the budget with a wedge. I did the next best thing and went to RTD and got their XTAR VP 1 and four batteries. The new June budget is here and it sounds like the love of my life doesn't have a reputation for being faithful. Now, I'm wondering about her sisters.

What to do with four batteries?
 

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I'm leaning towards an issue with the finish, I'm not working with sand and grit all day. There is nothing rough in the sleeve.

A few days ago in a chat someone mentioned that the emerald Provari she got her husband had issues with the finish but it is a different problem than yours. It's gone all blotchy in a month's time from being handled. :confused: She wasn't too happy but her husband doesn't care at all and won't consider sending it back to ProVape because he likes it so much that he doesn't want to be without it for even a short amount of time.

Someone else chimed in and said that their emerald green had scratches and chips that their other, much older Provaris did not have from similar use.
 

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I'm going to see what SG says but I'm going to press this as far as I can. I really loved the way this mod looked, it was gorgeous but now it just makes me sad.



How would I go about requesting the topic moved to the Provape section?

Sorry, I just saw this. I can move this thread to the ProVape forum if you like.

In the future, if you want a thread moved, just his the black triangle and let us know and we can move it for you. :)

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But, you don't understand the angst, Ocelot. Last month, I completely fell for the Emerald Green Mini, but couldn't force it into the budget with a wedge. I did the next best thing and went to RTD and got their XTAR VP 1 and four batteries. The new June budget is here and it sounds like the love of my life doesn't have a reputation for being faithful. Now, I'm wondering about her sisters.

What to do with four batteries?

{{{Hugs}}} I just got a green one a couple of weeks ago, so I understand your concern. I have mine in a "relaxed" fit sleeve, instead of a snug one, which may make a difference - I don't know. She's beautiful and I'm being careful with her, like I am with my wood mods.
 

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Has anyone seen the leather sleeve that Provape has on their website. It looks almost identical to the SG sleeves. Only color option is black. If they are selling them, they obviously don't think that they will damage the finish.

That hasn't been there for very long. I'm going to have to look over the whole site to see what else I've missed.
 

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That hasn't been there for very long. I'm going to have to look over the whole site to see what else I've missed.

I didn't see it the last time I was over there either. Interesting that it doesn't have a bottom on it & it only hugs the Provari to keep it in place. With how much leather can relax over time, I wonder how that's going to work out long term.

The only other new thing I noticed was the plastic cup holder stand.
 
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