Sounds like it could definitely be the wellbutrin. But try lowering your nic too, because it totally could have been the nic as well. Psych meds are weird in that even people with the same neurotic disorders can react very differently to the same medicines, a bad reaction for one person and a miracle for another. Though it seems a bit dodgy to me to give you wellbutrin for quitting smoking if you aren't also clinically depressed.
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@ScoobD yes I drink caffeine, 1 c of coffee a day. once in a while a diet soda, but that's it. I noticed that I was having an anxiety attack yesterday, my BP was around 134/90 when it is normally 110/80. after a few hours in the hospital, it was rechecked, 110/80
@edyle wattage? let me check..............you know, this is an older model, had it for a couple of years, Ego, something or other, uses joytech ? coils, has an adjustable control on the bottom, I usually just keep it in the middle. I was using 18mg yesterday, had the shop cut it down to 12mg (with VG), but still felt the racing heart rate. I have since put the vape down today, just had 2 analogs so far, feel better, but sad, I need to wait for my VG to come in the mail, before I restart this process. I'm not sure how much of the juice I was using, only filled it up once, with 2 dropper fulls.
@Melissa Slusser yes, I will consider talking about the heart problems, but in reality, I hope it doesn't come back, u know what I mean? I am definately going to keep lowering the nic level and see what happens, I'm determined to make this work.
@AndriaD Yeah, I'm rethinking the patch as well, I have tried the patch before, even at a 14mg, smoking cessation lady suggested, but I still felt dizzy and kinda "up", and anxious, not a fun feeling, especially when the nic content was constantly entering my blood stream. no, vaping is the way I want to go, just hard to convince some health educators about my choice. The doctor last night was very encouraging, although he admitted he didn't know much about the vaping, he was glad that I had cut down significantly with the analogs. Health Educator lady is kind of a Nazi I suppose, (we must get away from the hand to mouth motion), no vaping, only the patch will work, and even called me mid week through the first two weeks of the wellbutrin and wanted to know, "how are You doing????" Ugh, bad timing, just picked up cat from the vet after leg amputation, from a dog bite...............ugh!
@Baditude yes, I believe it was a Nic OD, possibly a side effect of the meds also, not sure on that one, but will be lowering nic real soon.
You should seriously tell the "health educators" that it's your body and your life, not theirs, and to kindly .... out and mind their own beeswax. It's not their discomfort or their money paying the emergency room bill.
Vaping is BY FAR the best and safest way to do it, and certainly the most comfortable -- SO WHAT?!?! if you continue the "hand to mouth"! Tell that old harridan to get a life and leave yours alone!
When people used to ask me when I was going to quit smoking, my answer was ALWAYS "Never." I finally did by vaping, because it was MY choice! Patches cost more than vape gear anyway! And news flash: THEY DON'T WORK! PERIOD!
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Its the Wellbutrin, and nic won't exactly help on top of it. Wellbutrin is commonly known to cause anxiety-for some an insane amount (like myself)-it isn't pleasant to say the least.
May i ask at 12-18mg nic-what type of tank are you using? Are you sub-ohming?
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May i ask at 12-18mg nic-what type of tank are you using? Are you sub-ohming?
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Sounds to me that the medication was causing the problem. For a 1 pad smoker, it seems unlikely that vaping once or twice an hour (according to the OPs statement) would cause such a strong effect via nicotine.
Might be best to re-consult a doctor if you are having doubts.
Might be best to re-consult a doctor if you are having doubts.
I don't know about a nic od.. You won't die from vaping too much, you would be severely sick before you were anywhere near endangering your life, but the dizziness and nauseous feeling would prevent you from vaping. It sounds like the medication caused some anxiety and the vaping may have raised your heart rate higher. Keep vaping and get off the meds and see where that leaves you. You can always lower your nic and vape twice as much it you need to. The ultimate goal is to quit smoking so however you get there is the way you should get there.
No opinion on that, but it used to be a fairly common prescription as an aid to quitting. For myself, it had absolutely no effect in regard to smoking or anything else.
I had exactly the same problem so I know what you are talking about. Went to the emergency at 2 am thinking that I was getting a heart attack. It was after a chain vaping session.
Doctors checked my heart and said everything is perfect and that I only had a slightly high blood pressure and that was most probably from being scared for my life.
The doc said its most probably an anxiety attack and sent me home. I did get some anxiety attacks after that but now I know what I have and try to stay calm.
Reduce the nic in your juice and take it easy with the coffee. You are fine.
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Doctors checked my heart and said everything is perfect and that I only had a slightly high blood pressure and that was most probably from being scared for my life.
The doc said its most probably an anxiety attack and sent me home. I did get some anxiety attacks after that but now I know what I have and try to stay calm.
Reduce the nic in your juice and take it easy with the coffee. You are fine.
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For me high vg causes a heavy tightness in the chest so I vape 70pg/30 vg or at most 50/50. Good luck!
It helped me cut down on smoking; I wasn't trying to quit or cut down at the time, so I thought that was kinda cool. It had very little effect on my depression; considering that I was also suffering, at the time, from extreme anxiety (a long PTSD aftermath), could be why it didn't seem to do anything to my depression. It did make my ankles puffy, and with my low BP, I worried about congestive heart failure -- see how it can cause anxiety problems?
So I got off that and onto Effexor, which helped both the depression and anxiety; went right back to a pk a day smoking, but that was the least of my concerns at the time.Andria
My guess is that it had something to do with the Wellbutrin. When you were getting the prescription for it, did you tell your doctor you'd be smoking and vaping while taking it? Wellbutrin has a messload of contraindications, everything from other medications to illicit substances.
In general, I'm not a fan of most modern medicine. Drugs like Xanax, Lorazepam (and a lot of the other anti-psychotics/anti-anxiety/anti-depression drugs) tend to cause a lot more problems than they resolve. Add to that -- pun not intended -- drugs like Adderall and Concerta (ADD/ADHD meds) cause strong chemical dependencies and will often make people think that they need the drug to concentrate when some simple willpower would've fixed the problem. Vaccinations and stuff are a miracle, we have a cure for most diseases that would've been deemed life-threatening 30 years ago, but the prescription pill industry is corrupt as all heck.
In general, I'm not a fan of most modern medicine. Drugs like Xanax, Lorazepam (and a lot of the other anti-psychotics/anti-anxiety/anti-depression drugs) tend to cause a lot more problems than they resolve. Add to that -- pun not intended -- drugs like Adderall and Concerta (ADD/ADHD meds) cause strong chemical dependencies and will often make people think that they need the drug to concentrate when some simple willpower would've fixed the problem. Vaccinations and stuff are a miracle, we have a cure for most diseases that would've been deemed life-threatening 30 years ago, but the prescription pill industry is corrupt as all heck.
100% agree. I benefitted tremendously from Effexor, for both depression and anxiety, but I was extremely depressed and suicidal and having panic attacks almost daily; once it came time to get off the drug, it took another full year to be able to wean off it because the withdrawal was so extreme. If someone is suicidal or can't go out in public at all due to anxiety, then those drugs have their very valuable place, but in any circumstances short of those, they're far more trouble than they're worth -- I will NEVER take SSRIs again, UNLESS my chronic depression reaches that level of acuteness. Of course, I won't take narcotic painkillers for any pain that ibuprofen can handle, for much the same reason -- nasty can of worms that really doesn't need to be opened.
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I happen to live in a part of New Jersey where pill abuse is rampant. It's essentially the bored housewife capital of the world (no offense intended to any housewives, ours just have an understandably bad reputation) and we're actually on some list for being the #7 most "opiate-ridden county" in the USA. Not a proud title.
Last time I got pulled over they actually asked me if I knew of any people abusing or selling pills. I'm straight these days, so I was really taken aback by the question (also I'm not keen on giving police any sort of information) but they pointed out that it's not about "the type of person" anymore; everyone's susceptible to the dangers. Ironic that we live in a time where most of the illegal drugs seem to have relatively limited negative consequences -- depending on the drug and the circumstance.
Meanwhile, the legal drugs are the ones that'll .... you up.
Yeah... my mom quit drinking when her cirrhosis was diagnosed, but now she takes Oxi all day every day -- so I can't really consider her "sober" or a "recovering alcoholic" -- she just substituted. She actually has a good reason to do so; with her liver and diabetic problems, she can take neither NSAIDs nor tylenol, so for her pain from arthritic swollen knees and 2 hip replacements that never did heal very well, she needs *something* -- but that doesn't make that Oxi any less dangerous. Thank god that the hips and knees also mean she doesn't drive anymore.
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