Emily's Post: Why are Wisconsin newspapers shilling for e-cigarettes?

[rothenbj]

I agree with what you wrote. I'm angry, too. Pompous, arrogant little snots like Kyle irritate me to no end. Talk about hubris.


As Jonathan Edwards said, "He can't even run his own life. I'll be damned if he'll run mine." (Sunshine)

But I also share your anger at "those who know what's best for us." I wonder how many dead bodies can be credited to the lie, "This product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes."

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Good song... Well, I awoke refreshed and did a little research. Our friend Kyle's stance is quite obvious. He was raised a tobacco Nazi. He works for the Wisconsin Department of Health Services in tobacco Prevention and Control and was a speaker for the American Legacy Foundation for two years. He spent two years as a consultant for FACT, which appears to be the poor version of CTFK- Fight Against Corporate tobacco, catchy Wisconsin name.

Emily is a bit more interesting. Tracking her in facebook led me to an Emily Gruselle, a grad student at Wisconsin. apparently a gay cellist. It would appear that they are one and the same, but I'm not positive. Considering she tied the two subjects, E-cigs and the Wisconsin stance on gay relationships, Gruselle and Mills, may very well be the same.

What I find interesting is that here we have two very diverse subjects, smoking/tobacco/nicotine users rights and gay rights. Both groups are minorities with the majority having, in many cases, a strong dislike for the minority. She wants to ban that which she doesn't have a vested interested, but she wants acceptance in the subject that affects her.

In both cases you can make a case for health issues and the effect on kids of the behavior of consulting adults. And don't tell me there are no health issues if you practice safe sex because I'll argue that they market flavored condoms to attract kids. I myself have no issue with people that are same sex oriented. However, Friday night I found out that the girlfriend of one of my acquaintances walked in and found her now ex-bf in the act and it still makes nauseous. If you knew the guy, you'd understand.

Out to get those doggie bones, hopefully

 

[mpetva]

Another EMILY reply/post/blog:

Emily's Post: Electronic cigarettes, Marty McFly, and internet detective-ry - Isthmus | The Daily Page

Partial Quotes:

The most complex and potentially important facet of this debate has to do with the claim made by most all electronic cigarette makers that their product is not supposed to be a smoking cessation device. That is, they say they’re not telling customers that vaping can or will be a path to kicking the cigarette and/or nicotine habit.

This is the main argument made by e-cig manufacturers against the FDA’s desire to regulate their product as a drug delivery device. Such regulation would likely require that their importation be stopped until such time as more comprehensive testing was done to discover their short and long term safety and health effects. Understandably, manufacturers want to avoid such a process that would likely result in significant loss of sales.

Take frequent commenter Elaine Keller: "This product provides the nicotine my brain requires for adequate functioning (without destroying my lungs.) I have been smoke-free since March 27, 2009. The wheezing has disappeared. So has the phlegm that I used to cough up every morning."

It also mentions:

other frequent commenter Kristin Noll Marsh

But some of her writing (towards the bottom) are some of the same things we all have been saying