She's BACK and I can't believe no one posted the link

[rothenbj]

Emily's last post on E-cigs is apparently not going to be her last. Still vacillating.


Emily's Post: Electronic cigarettes, Marty McFly, and internet detective-ry - Isthmus | The Daily Page

 

[kristin]

The last comment I see on there is from 7/14? What is new that I can't see?

 

[CtryBoy]

Bit harsh expecting CASAA board members to sit on their hands and not post in forum.
Remember in theory we are all CASAA members if we choose to be.

(This will all involve a serious reform effort at the FDA, which does not exactly have a sterling record when it comes to being impartial and/or exhaustive in its research)

Cute shot at the FDA, but then again I like anything resembling the truth shoved back in the FDA's face. Maybe they should start a study on how likely the FDA is to kill you as well as into the dangers of PV's.

 

[kristin]

Bit harsh expecting CASAA board members to sit on their hands and not post in forum.

Can you explain that comment a bit more? I'm not sure what you mean.

 

[yvilla]

I think he's referring to Emily's cheap and dirty shot at Elaine.

I too wonder why rothenbj posted this link as if it were the followup we're all waiting for, as it's the old article. I checked to see if there was a newer one just now, and there's nothing yet.

 

[kristin]

Yeah, I checked the site a couple of days ago and saw nothing new.

 

[rothenbj]

Yeah, I checked the site a couple of days ago and saw nothing new.

Sooooooooooooo Sorry, been a long day. I've been waiting for her follow up and came in late, did a quick check and somehow ended up on last month's story. What tired will do. If the moderator's will delete, that would be good.

Best friend's wife had her second stroke issue after two years at mid 40's, was scheduled to caddy for her one son today which was canceled yesterday when she went to hospital. Found out my dog had some issue and scheduled a vet appointment before she told them she wanted them to play in their annual tournament so caddying was back on.

Caddied got the dog to the vet, had a poker tournament and came home tired, but dedicated. I should really be sleeping right now, but needed to get this out before everyone was wondering what I was talking about.

I was fully expecting her new edition today and my quick read sounded like the same old stuff...... it was

 

[CtryBoy]

I think he's referring to Emily's cheap and dirty shot at Elaine.

I too wonder why rothenbj posted this link as if it were the followup we're all waiting for, as it's the old article. I checked to see if there was a newer one just now, and there's nothing yet.

Take frequent commenter Elaine Keller: "This product provides the nicotine my brain requires for adequate functioning (without destroying my lungs.) I have been smoke-free since March 27, 2009. The wheezing has disappeared. So has the phlegm that I used to cough up every morning."
Hey, great! Happy to hear it. But Elaine also just happens to be on the Board of Directors of The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association (CASAA) – a consumer group that was created and is currently "funded by your friendly, neighborhood U.S. Electronic Cigarette Suppliers" to do direct lobbying on their behalf.
Oddly enough, other frequent commenter Kristin Noll Marsh is also on that same Board of Directors, as well as that of Vapers International (a group that gathers information and funds in order to complete clinical research supporting nicotine vaporizers and electronic cigarettes), all while running a website that sells e-cigarette accessories.
Obviously people who really love the product have every right to join groups to support its use and put out information about it. What I have a problem with is the fact that CASAA is funded by the industry, and several of its members apparently make a habit of going forth to spread tales of e-cigarettes use in cutting back on or quitting smoking. They become de-facto industry lobbyists.

De facto industry lobbyists. IMHO a bit harsh. Board members maybe held to a higher standard and encouraged to post less 'personal' experiences, but then again we are not quite as slick as the rest of the lobbyists or we wouldnt be having so much trouble with the FDA, now would we. Just because you go to the trouble of stepping up to the plate for you cause, doesnt mean you cant talk to your neighbor over the back fence about your personal opinions and experiences.

 

[kristin]

De facto industry lobbyists. IMHO a bit harsh. Board members maybe held to a higher standard and encouraged to post less 'personal' experiences, but then again we are not quite as slick as the rest of the lobbyists or we wouldnt be having so much trouble with the FDA, now would we. Just because you go to the trouble of stepping up to the plate for you cause, doesnt mean you cant talk to your neighbor over the back fence about your personal opinions and experiences.

OK, I see where you're coming from.

The problem is, she saw CASAA as a "front" for the e-cig industry ("funded by the industry" she said) and not as an honest, consumer-oriented organization - "paid shills" to be exact. So, we are considered even worse than upfront lobbysts in her mind. If we were a "real" consumer group, she'd apparently have no problem with us telling our story.