Endura T22 Leaking

[redeuce]

By the way, I've read just about every post you and a Trig have made. Your comments have prodded me to order an Aspire Zelos kit! Mainly to let my wife try. Everything she vapes seems too harsh to her in her Endura T18. I'm going to try dialing down the watts on the Zelos with the Endura tank, and see if that helps. Lol.
A special thanks to ALL board members for helping people Day in and day out.

 

[redeuce]

Lastly, kudos to EVERY moderator on running a tight ship, making this a safe place.

 

[tgs3]

I've looked at every negative thread on the Endura T18/T22. Most probs are either user error or factory goof up, not a design flaw. Problem is, a lot of OPs never follow up after they have been given help. An OP starts a thread needing help, gets advice, then never reveals the final outcome.
Too bad.

I really appreciate all the helpful comments, especially from redeuce. But I am at work and not in a position at this time to do an extensive investigation. Please understand, that yesterday was my first attempt with the T22. Up to now, I have been using really easy devices - a Juul and v2 ex. I still don't understand a lot of the lingo. When I have a chance, I am going to follow up on the suggestions. Right now, I am a really nervous, shaky 40+ year smoker who really needs a device that is reliable. Thankfully, I have my Juul with me to get me through the day.

 

[redeuce]

Keep us updated. We'll try to get you through this. Trig will be along at some point too I'm sure.

 

[tgs3]

How can I tell if the rings are damaged? I checked again and they look like they are correctly in place. The coil also was mounted correctly. The flat sides were slotted in.

 

[Hobbs]

Look very carefully at the bottom of the tank. The coil should be inserted and sitting flush with the base of the tank. What I ran into once before was making the mistake of having a tightened top cap and trying to insert a coil and tightening the bottom. The bottom just wasn't fastened up properly and the tank "leaked".

Been a while but I think this is covered in the tank instructions. Remove the top cap. Loosen the bottom and slightly wiggle the coil to make sure it is seated into the tank properly. Tighten the bottom well. You don't want it to move at all. Now that the bottom is tightened properly, you can tighten the top cap.

Always make sure the coil is seated properly and the bottom is tightened up BEFORE tightening the top cap.

EDIT: ... OR, if filled with juice ... slightly loosen the top cap just enough so you can check to see that the bottom doesn't tighten further when you try to tighten the bottom.

Without looking at your tank and based on my experience, I just think the coil and tank may not have been put together in the proper sequence in accordance with the tank/coil instructions. It doesn't have to be off much and the tank will leak.

 

[Hobbs]

^^^ IF that doesn't fix it, try a different coil ... BUT ... ALWAYS tighten the bottom up BEFORE tightening the top

 

[tgs3]

I refilled the tank halfway and laid it on a piece of paper. The device was off and there was no leaking. I turned it on and returned it to the paper. Now it is leaking from the bottom of the tank. So, it probably is something with the coil.

 

[Hobbs]

Yep, sounds like either the coil isn't seated in the tank properly (easily checked, but tighten the bottom first before tightening the top) or the coil is defective.

 

[redeuce]

I'd suggest waiting till you get home. Pour the juice back in the bottle. Take the tank apart, wash it all, and reassemble using the tips above. Look in the 510 connection in the battery. Is there juice in there? Take a q tip Damp with alcohol and clean the hole out. Blow into it to dry it.

 

[stols001]

I hope that's your solution tg3, but if you have your Juul, no rush. It probably is best to wait until home. I don't think I could EVER try to isolate a leak while out of my comfort house, LOL. As long as you have a device working for you, it can wait, and even though you are having startup issues, I think you made a good choice. You've got lotsa folks helping you out, so I'm sure you'll either isolate it, or warranty it, in the grand scheme of things...

This board is a great place for those of us of similar persuasions and joining periods to help each other out, LOL. I look at mod threads with a "Wha????" type of approach at this time, LOL.

Anna

 

[tgs3]

Update: The problem seems to be solved. There is no more leak. It gurgles a bit on some draws. Currently, I am using Halo Turkish tobacco, 2.4 with it. Tastes a bit harsh, though it is supposed to be mild. I have some Mr. Salt-e juice I would like to try. How do you clean out the tank before switching juices? Thanks for all the help.

 

[redeuce]

Are you using a high pg % e liquid? To clean, I just take everything apart, wash with warm water, and dry thoroughly.
I'm glad it's not leaking, but it really shouldn't even gurgle.
If it continues to gurgle you can up your vg% some if you want.

 

[stols001]

Yeah, just disassemble and warmish H20 is usually fine for a flavor change... I really only go nuts on my tank if I dry hit a coil or the juice was terribly burnt. Then, I'll use alcohol first followed with a warm water bath to get rid of everything.

I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner but it's sounding more and more like a nice thing to have, down the line. Make sure you dry everything well and I always clean out my connection in my mod with a q-tip or two, just to keep everything working well...

Anna

 

[djsvapour]

Update: The problem seems to be solved. There is no more leak. It gurgles a bit on some draws. Currently, I am using Halo Turkish tobacco, 2.4 with it. Tastes a bit harsh, though it is supposed to be mild. I have some Mr. Salt-e juice I would like to try. How do you clean out the tank before switching juices? Thanks for all the help.

In fairness, 24mg is going to be harsh. What power are you using?

18mg Halo (Tribeca) at 20 watts had me almost phoning the ambulance. Anyway... the 'old' Halo was designed for 'old' devices (high PG/low watts) and the Zelos isn't old.

(Not that Halo exactly advertise the fact their original liquids are stone-age PG/VG).

 

[Hobbs]

In fairness, 24mg is going to be harsh. What power are you using?

He's using an Innokin T22 kit. It has a fixed 14W output onto 1.5ohm top coil. Not only might 24mg (2.4) be a bit harsh but 14W on a 1.5ohm top coil might be a bit warm. That said, it is an excellent starter kit and so is the T18 (the one I preferred). I would probably still be vaping them if the wattage was variable. There is no air flow control either but doesn't need it for MTL. The only thing one could vary is the juice used. Try lower nicotine level ... 12mg (1.2) would be a good choice ... and if 12mg is too mild ... mix the 24mg and 12mg together (if same flavor) and you have about 18mg (1.8).

I found off the shelf flavors to be too strong and tried mixing my own but didn't like that either. I vape non-flavored 50/50 (PG/VG) 12-18mg. You could try using some non-flavored to dilute your flavors if they're too harsh/strong ... or just give vaping non-flavored a try. Works for me.

I have no experience with the nicotine salts and know nothing about it. Hopefully someone will chime in with knowledge.

 

[tgs3]

I have no experience with the nicotine salts and know nothing about it. Hopefully someone will chime in with knowledge.

I have been using a Juul since I started vaping. Their carts are pre-filled with nic salt ejuice at 5%. But they are really smooth. I am going to try some nic salt juice in the T22 as soon as my tank is depleted.

Yes, the tip occasionally gets hot when I draw.

 

[stols001]

I use nicsalts for my DIY juices and I like them for the smoothness and lack of throat hit, my throat was so torn up by the time I started vaping, I did NOT need a harsh throat hit. I use 18 mg in my MTL tanks, though I will say that my watts are adjustable and the highest I vape is 12 watts.... They are reportedly (by Juul at least, who has a vape pod system with 50 mg/ml nicsalts, but VERY low wattage) more bioavailable and/or more closely mimic the nic from smoking. I have no idea if that's true, but I like them for the smoothness and since I don't use any MORE of them than I would regular nicbase, I don't find myself with a huge issue.

If you do want to try them, there are eliquids premade that you can buy, though I haven't tried those. The only thing I would caution is to keep an eye on nic overload symptoms to start, since you have fixed wattage and a 1.5 coil. I wouldn't start out chainvaping, for example. However, I've been very pleased with mine....

Good luck!

Anna

 

[Hobbs]

50mg/ml sounds SUPER strong. It might be mild but man that's some high nic level to be vaping. As much as I vape ... only about 1-2 tanks/3-5ml a day ... I would end up with nic overload symptoms and I was a pack and a half a day smoker for just about 45 years !!! ... shoot

Is 50mg/ml nic salts the same thing as 50mg/ml regular non-salts?

 

[stols001]

It is the same amount of nic, yes. TBH the Juul has a totally puny wattage, almost no airflow, you really can't get that much nic per "puff" and the pods are rather small, too. I wouldn't advise trying it but some of those ciaglikes use very high nic, with everything else staying looooowwww.... I know a lot of new vapers like them, as they do pack a punch, and they're willing to pay for the convenience of a not-very-adjustable or refillable setup.

With that said, with today's power devices (aside from gas-station cigalikes) the amount of nic needed has dropped... some. There's simply more vape per puff in most starter kits that aren't purchased at the gas station these days, though some people do go fairly high on nic, but I don't think I'd advise anyone starting out to start at 50 mg/ml using ANY kind of nic, but cigalikes aren't really vape devices (my opinion only) they are tobacco vape kits, and they do stuff differently (and more expensively).

I'm not knocking the Juul, really, it's just not my thing, but it has helped a lot of ex-smokers get going....

Anna