Essential Wholesale & Labs Pg/Vg

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Puff Vader

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I ordered some Vg and Pg from Essential Wholesale & Labs. The site sales lots of bases for makeup and other things people put on their skin etc. Once the liquid arrived I realized both bottles say "not for internal use". I know I am not going to drink these, but now I'm not sure if they are safe to use in my juice now. Has anyone used their products before? The site had no disclaimer about the products or there intended purposes. Anyway, any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks !
 

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Actually USP means USP. It is a violation of federal law to label a non-USP product as USP with some serious bite.

Now, the funny thing is that a company can have USP but market it to uses that do not require USP.

So you can have USP that is marketed toward Food Use which is one notch below.
And you can have USP that is marketed toward Agricultural use which is a notch below Food grade.
And you can have USP that is marketed toward Machine use, which is below Agricultural grade.

Basically if a company meets USP requirements, they know for certain it is more pure than what is required for any grades below USP. Their business, marketing, and insurance is geared toward a specific market, but the specifications for USP are well defined and have an independent organization they can contract with for the certification. Given the odd things one may have to go through when dealing with a government agency, and each individual agent of that agency, the consistency of an independent organization is easier to deal with as a business than than trying to gather the certs for a lower grade that is overseen by a government agency.

So if you want to make sure your product is good for external use, but want a consistent process to keep costs down, it makes sense for the business to make USP product and label it for external use only. (Or whatever use the business was originated to serve.) Since the government helps to enforce USP standards, it's a huge win for USP. (This also applies to standards such as IBC, AASHTO, ANSI, NEC and others where the standard is from a private organization, but the government helps enforce the standards that the government has no hand in creating or developing.)

Thus us mixers encounter USP labeled PG and VG that is marketed toward food, cosmetics, animal, or machine use, but the key is the USP labeling since that is a standard of purity, packaging, packaging environment, and storage. Since the USP standard is a higher purity than food, agricultural, or machine, it is the USP that you need on the label. Feel free to overlook the marketing hype on the label.
 

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I was under the impression that the all-natural/ health industry had some sort of exception regarding their labeling, thus USP glycerin was not neccesarily held to the same standards as glycerin, USP. I cant argue that too strongly myself, I am only getting this from the sticky,
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/52669-pg-vg-labeling-purity-please-read.html

So, now I feel more confused, but that usually happens when I'm on the verge of learning something.
 
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