Everyone talks about "massive airflow" ... Not needed for mouth to lung vaping

[VaPreis]

From reading all these posts here, it seems like the main concern lately is how much airflow a certain rba has. People here will say: "that XYZ atty is pretty good, but it just don't have enough airflow, so I wouldn't buy it".

While that may be a real plus for someone that does straight lung hits, a massive airflow just is not needed for someone that vapes using mouth to lung (like you would smoke a cigarette).

Jeeeze, I am starting to think that I am the only person here that actually vapes like I would smoke one of those Marlboro Reds I smoked for over 40 years before I stopped 17 months ago.

Is everyone here just doing big straight lung inhales now .... so the need for lots and lots of airflow?

In the 40 years of smoking, I never saw anyone smoking a cigarette like that .... maybe something else, but that something else sure didn't contain tobacco.

After two years, I still vape to not smoke. I don't remember ever complaining about the lack of airflow on my Marlboro's, so MTL vaping is still where it's at for me.

Sure, I have toys that blow clouds, but they sit more then they're vaped and don't leave the house with me.

 

[Flt Simulation]

From reading these replies, it seems like there are more lung to mouth vapers here that I had previously thought.

Being a MTL vaper myself, that might be the reason I was happy with my Kayfun Lite-Plus that I used to have before I lost it during a night out on the town over here in the Philippines ... that was a $110 lost for good (not including the VW battery too).

Right now, I am looking to replace that expensive authentic Kayfun with something a little cheaper ... maybe a Lemo 2.

 

[ckquatt]

Not at all alone!! I'm a Tootle Puffer of the first order! One of my daily drivers is a Provari 3 Stealth with the new V2 Subtank on top. The lowest air hole setting with a 1.2 ohm coil in the RBA section is PERFECT for mouth to lung vaping!!

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[DavidOck]

From reading these replies, it seems like there are more lung to mouth vapers here that I had previously thought.

Being a MTL vaper myself, that might be the reason I was happy with my Kayfun Lite-Plus that I used to have before I lost it during a night out on the town over here in the Philippines ... that was a $110 lost for good (not including the VW battery too).

Right now, I am looking to replace that expensive authentic Kayfun with something a little cheaper ... maybe a Lemo 2.

You can clone your own KF with less than $15 in FT "repair" parts and base...

 

[Flt Simulation]

I don't have enough spare parts for a Kayfun to build another, and I can't order a Kayfun clone from China while here in the Philippines .... The Filipino post office will either steal it before it gets to me, or it won't be delivered to where I am staying.

If I order a authentic Kayfun from Germany, I will never see it delivered here to the Philippines .... Fact

I am flying up to Japan in about 3 weeks ... I will just get something while up there.

 

[BlueSnake]

Funny thing is I don't remember anyone modding their cigarettes to get more or less airflow. Nor bundling 4 to 6 smokes together to get bigger clouds. Wonder why that is?

 

[NoFumus]

Funny thing is I don't remember anyone modding their cigarettes to get more or less airflow. Nor bundling 4 to 6 smokes together to get bigger clouds.

 

[Flt Simulation]

This is what reminds me of the "cloud chasers" I read about on this forum ... I am starting to think that these people are not vaping to keep themselves off of cigarettes, but just doing it for the sake of producing there enormous clouds.

"But it really takes all this vapor for me to really appreciate the flavor and volume of my vape".

Okie Dokie

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Funny thing is I don't remember anyone modding their cigarettes to get more or less airflow. ...

"Packing" cigarettes is a way to restrict air flow and thus have cigarettes burn longer.

 

[Deadkaiser]

I think lots of people get in to DLI for 2 reasons because make massive clouds of vapour is strangely satisfying (for many people me included) and also due to the fact that lung inhaling gives you a larger nic hit.... If im craving nic and in a rush i'll DLI on my K4 and get back to work but the rest of the time I just MTL. I also find lots of people like to drop there nic levels a fair bit, i did this because on the odd day i would start OD on nic chilling out vapen all day.... but once you reduce the nic levels the speed of the 'hit' is a lot slower to get that hit back DLI is the only answer but off course makes the Nic drop pointless if not counter productive. I personally always go back to MTL because if find it give way better flavour at least for me even RDA don't give me as good flavour DLI as i get on the K4 MTL or GT v2

 

[Petabread]

I'm not exactly sure why it's even really a question, why some people prefer a direct lung inhale versus mouth to lung. There's always been options like that for pretty much any time of smoking.

Don't forget about a cigarette versus a hookah. Don't forget about a joint versus a waterbong.

The concept isn't new by any means. What's great is you can have both options easily and relatively affordably.

Edit: we can even go as far as the same concept for other addictions: alcohol. You have a beer versus a shot. Crown and coke versus a piña colada. One Beer versus a beerbong.

Depending on your mood or the occasion, you have options. Only one type of anything is never fun. At home I blow clouds to get my fix quickly. Out and about I MTL out of respect to those around me so I dont make vapers look bad and so I can see while I drive.

 

[Thespis]

Why do people keep comparing the way they vape to the way they smoked? It's not the same thing.
Why do people care so much about the way others vape? It's truly puzzling to me.

 

[Petabread]

Why do people keep comparing the way they vape to the way they smoked? It's not the same thing.
Why do people care so much about the way others vape? It's truly puzzling to me.

I think it's just the fact that their vaping addiction replaced their smoking addiction. I don't compare the two because I hated smoking but I love to vape. I don't want to correlate them. But hell, if there WAS a way to open the airflow on a cigarette, some people might have! Who knows.

Some people also refuse to accept change. They find one way and want to stick with it, period, forever. That's a bad way to be in this industry, IMO. Manufacturers seem to adapt to what becomes popular - look at Evolv for example. If I recall correctly, six months ago, they expressed no desire to become involved in high wattage vaping - now we have a DNA200 chip.

When I first started vaping, if you wanted a lung inhale, you had to get an RDA, no tanks. And if you wanted a truly great vape, you needed a Rebuildable - that's no longer the case. Geez, we have tri and quad-coil tanks now. More and more, this industry is catering to lung inhalers and higher watts. Due to how fast paced and rapid changing it is, this really isn't for the closed-minded.

I do think (and hope!) that MTL will always be supported, but it'll be limited. IMO. Unless it becomes the new craze again (it's possible - Just look at high waisted female shorts and dudes in skinny jeans - I never thought I'd see the day. Maybe beepers are next.)

 

[GeorgeS]

While that may be a real plus for someone that does straight lung hits, a massive airflow just is not needed for someone that vapes using mouth to lung (like you would smoke a cigarette).

Please speak for yourself as the above might be more accurately stated: "like xxxx would smoke a cigarette"

My parents before me, myself and everyone I knew or watched smoking cigarettes did direct-to-lung inhales. (M2L is something that pipe and cigar smokers are/were known for)

As a coworker who I have a Nautilus mini+iStick on trial/loan to recently put it after taking my TC40+STM for a test run: "that setup vapes like smoking a real cigarette! I need to get myself one like THAT"...

While the virtual army of subohm tanks I own are generally setup for multisecond draws rather than sub-second cloud generators clearly not everyone smoked or VAPES in the same way.

And YES, while the attention these days is seemingly focused on high powered cloud forming many of these tanks have "toodle puffing" air flow settings and can be built with low power and/or TC mouth-2-lung application/use in mind and offer the user not only a rebuildable deck but sometimes a top-fill and greater juice capacity as well.

Just because a tank is marketed/used for weather changing cloud forming does not always mean it can't also be used for less juice guzzling service.

 

[GeorgeS]

This is what reminds me of the "cloud chasers" I read about on this forum ... I am starting to think that these people are not vaping to keep themselves off of cigarettes, but just doing it for the sake of producing there enormous clouds.

"But it really takes all this vapor for me to really appreciate the flavor and volume of my vape".

Okie Dokie

While in search of the perfect vape I've amassed over 1/2 dozen mods, tanks and bottles of juice with various amounts of nicotine and flavor.

• with 9mg or less juice I'll "chain vape" and consume 2-3x the juice of higher mg blends
• with 14-18mg juice I'll take a few draws every once in a while and consume 2-3x LESS juice than with the lower mg nicotine juice
• the above trend (for me at least) carries across devices/tanks setup for "cloud forming" and "toodle puffing" - lower nicotine equates to more vaping and juice usage, higher nicotine equates to less vaping and less juice usage

So (in my humble opinion) the options are clear:

• consume as much juice, battery and who knows what trace chemicals as your body and wallet can withstand or
• consume enough nicotine and flavor to satisfy/replace your personal needs

Granted, with the profit margin on store bought juice and some folks seemingly testosterone driven "my cloud is bigger than yours" mentality seemingly funding the entire industry there ARE those of us who don't equate our self worth to having the 'latest and greatest' MOD or forming the biggest clouds.

Personally, I'd like to take a moment to THANK all those who are funding the industry as without your seemingly endless juice consumption and spending, the local B&M's as well as the entire industry would die from lack of "consumer interest".

 

[meti]

I'm, too, a MTL vaper. I tried direct to lung, but it really doesn't satisfy me and I think that's more unhealthy than MTL, even only because of the heat that DTL inhale put in your throat... I'd stick with atty that deliver a nice flavour and are air restricted enough for MTL like the Kayfun or the Expromizer.

 

[Thespis]

Granted, with the profit margin on store bought juice and some folks seemingly testosterone driven "my cloud is bigger than yours" mentality seemingly funding the entire industry there ARE those of us who don't equate our self worth to having the 'latest and greatest' MOD or forming the biggest clouds.

So if somebody likes big clouds, they have a low sense of self-worth?
Why?
This mentality is making me kind of crazy. I don't understand why so many threads go in this direction...

 

[Deadkaiser]

Personally, I'd like to take a moment to THANK all those who are funding the industry as without your seemingly endless juice consumption and spending, the local B&M's as well as the entire industry would die from lack of "consumer interest".

lol we are all addicted to nicotine the industry is not exactly doing us some favour there making money on a semi moral industry giving smokers a possible option to not die a long and painful death at a younger age..... we are the guinea pigs dont thank them for allowing us to be one regardless of there common good will behind it!

 

[GeorgeS]

So if somebody likes big clouds, they have a low sense of self-worth?
Why?
This mentality is making me kind of crazy. I don't understand why so many threads go in this direction...

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with liking big clouds - I like making them from time to time myself.

Threads tend to go "in this direction" as eventually the conversation usually evolves into a who's cloud is bigger competition.

 

[Thespis]

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with liking big clouds - I like making them from time to time myself.

Threads tend to go "in this direction" as eventually the conversation usually evolves into a who's cloud is bigger competition.

If that's the case, why did you equate liking big clouds to having a low self-worth?
Ahh, never mind. These forums are simply a microcosm of society. We don't seem to be able to discuss anything anymore without denigrating the "opposition".