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skyboxer1968

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Meanwhile heres what i swapped one of my Mini's for, havent got around to trying TC on it as i just picked it up from the post office and have to go do some work, and
since i had to use the Mini in VW only have a kanthal build in the Lemo 2. But, well..TreeBox. Stupid light and quite classy looking

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Very nice! Let us know how it works for you.
 

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My mod did throw 2 of my SS builds out of TC, but the problem was 100% the fault of those builds.

It hasn't done it again since I tightened everything up. I'm thinking a screw got a bit loose while I was compressing the coil or the RBA section wasn't screwed all the way in. Firmware 2.0 has worked for me without noticeable errors with SS spaced coils, but I wanted to give parallel a shot to see if maybe I could get my resistance down to help with TC and it's a contact coil because in a crown RBA there's no room... :( Thanks for all the input folks!
 

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My point is lots of people have no issue with the VTC throwing stainless steel out of TC. If you have 2 mods that keep throwing your SS atty out of TC it may be the mod, but it also may be the atomizer, your build, the settings, or some combination. If the problem is with both of your mods, then there's not much you can do other than returning them. If it's the atty or the build then it's probably worth ruling them out.

Most people with single-wire spaced SS coils have no problems using the 2.0 firmware. You said "I just think they need to adjust the sensitivity of ss mode to detect the smaller resistance changes of ss." If the firmware settings were off, more vapers would be having the same problem. My mod has the 2.0 firmware and the settings have been fine with a properly setup coil. My mod did throw 2 of my SS builds out of TC, but the problem was 100% the fault of those builds. Once I went back to single-strand spaced SS coils it worked flawlessly. There absolutely may be a real defect with both of your mods, but the default settings in the 2.0 firmware works fine on lots VTC Minis as long as the atomizer has a solid build.
Well if the problem were my builds then they shouldn't work fine in ti mode. All of them work in ti mode. Btw, look at my join date. I was building coils on vivi novas before rebuildables even existed. Chances are it's not my coils. I'm not trying to be a dick, but the copy and paste response of "mine works fine so the problem is you" isn't constructive and just plain annoying.
 

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Well if the problem were my builds then they shouldn't work fine in ti mode. All of them work in ti mode. Btw, look at my join date. I was building coils on vivi novas before rebuildables even existed. Chances are it's not my coils. I'm not trying to be a dick, but the copy and paste response of "mine works fine so the problem is you" isn't constructive and just plain annoying.

Wrong. I never gave a copy and paste response, and I never said that the only possible problem was with your builds. My dispute was with your assertion that the 2.0 firmware "sensitivity of ss mode" is the cause of your mod throwing the coil out of temp control. The firmware does not throw properly constructed SS coils out of temp control. As I did say, there may be a hardware issue or a build issue, but it isn't the firmware.

Don't misrepresent my argument to feed your frustration. That's annoying.
 
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Wrong. I never gave a copy and paste response, and I never said that the only possible problem was with your builds. My dispute was with your assertion that the 2.0 firmware "sensitivity of ss mode" is the cause of your mod throwing the coil out of temp control. The firmware does not throw properly constructed SS coils out of temp control. As I did say, there may be a hardware issue or a build issue, but it isn't the firmware.

Don't misrepresent my argument to feed your frustration. That's annoying.
Well we'll see who's right. My money says they fix this problem with a firmware update.

Until then I'll stick with ni200. It's funny that ni200, that's notorious for connectivity issues, works fine but ss has problems. But hey, I'm doing it wrong so what would I know?
 

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Well we'll see who's right. My money says they fix this problem with a firmware update.

Until then I'll stick with ni200. It's funny that ni200, that's notorious for connectivity issues, works fine but ss has problems. But hey, I'm doing it wrong so what would I know?

I don't know if you're simply committed to putting words into my mouth or you're just misreading my words... but it's pretty sad.

I'm certain they will continue to make new firmware updates, but the current firmware works very well in SS mode for me and many others. I get the feeling that all you are able to hear is "it's all because of your poor build, there's no other possibility", but it must be from someone else. I never said that. It's odd that you keep suggesting it.
 

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Ok well im starting to have issues now..... Just coiled a 0.36 SS coil, ohm checked on meter and then on evic mini and both read the same, locked in and was working great all day ar 410f 30.3w, I have been sat on a air-conditioned bus having a few stealth vapes and went to have one and nothing... Looked at unit and now have a 0.29 locked, let it cool do the whole remove atty replace atty reads correct lock again, have a vape, nothing, look at mod and its locked at 0.29 again.... Repeat process lock in 0.36 vape, bam worst f_ing taste ever. Not frigging happy I just inhaled that s@#t. I think something relating to drop in (I say this as going into a hotter enviroment, outside 37degree's is fine)ambient temperature changes is going on here here as the bus was way colder than my 23degree room i built it on. Yes I can coil, yes its only this device, yes there is something wrong.
 

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Ok well im starting to have issues now..... Just coiled a 0.36 SS coil, ohm checked on meter and then on evic mini and both read the same, locked in and was working great all day ar 410f 30.3w, I have been sat on a air-conditioned bus having a few stealth vapes and went to have one and nothing... Looked at unit and now have a 0.29 locked, let it cool do the whole remove atty replace atty reads correct lock again, have a vape, nothing, look at mod and its locked at 0.29 again.... Repeat process lock in 0.36 vape, bam worst f_ing taste ever. Not frigging happy I just inhaled that s@#t. I think something relating to drop in (I say this as going into a hotter enviroment, outside 37degree's is fine)ambient temperature changes is going on here here as the bus was way colder than my 23degree room i built it on. Yes I can coil, yes its only this device, yes there is something wrong.
The resistance lock has been pretty worthless on mine. Mine doesn't lock the resistance, it just keeps the mod from asking if it's a new coil. I don't know if yours does the same thing but it sounds like it might.

My first vtc jumped around with ohm readings too. It's a fun surprise when you get a blast of burned cotton. My second vtc has been reading ohms consistently.

Do you have any nickel wire? I wonder if yours is like mine where it works perfectly fine with nickel or ti, and not so well with ss.
 

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Ok well im starting to have issues now..... Just coiled a 0.36 SS coil, ohm checked on meter and then on evic mini and both read the same, locked in and was working great all day ar 410f 30.3w, I have been sat on a air-conditioned bus having a few stealth vapes and went to have one and nothing... Looked at unit and now have a 0.29 locked, let it cool do the whole remove atty replace atty reads correct lock again, have a vape, nothing, look at mod and its locked at 0.29 again.... Repeat process lock in 0.36 vape, bam worst f_ing taste ever. Not frigging happy I just inhaled that s@#t. I think something relating to drop in (I say this as going into a hotter enviroment, outside 37degree's is fine)ambient temperature changes is going on here here as the bus was way colder than my 23degree room i built it on. Yes I can coil, yes its only this device, yes there is something wrong.
I haven't trusted ss enough in this mod to take it to work but with ni200 I don't see big changes in resistance. A change of .01 ohms is the most I see when I'm out in the cold Seattle rain.
 

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I was using 28g ni200 as my local b&m is out of 26g and made a few decent builds but started to have the issue of temp protection and only getting 5-6 watts and no vape, putbit down to builds until this, my only issue is that this seems to be something that has developed as opposed to being there from day one of use, a bit random. ni200 was fine until I tried SS and couldn't get a ni200 build to work so just used SS but am now thinking its a bigger issue......
 

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I was using 28g ni200 as my local b&m is out of 26g and made a few decent builds but started to have the issue of temp protection and only getting 5-6 watts and no vape, putbit down to builds until this, my only issue is that this seems to be something that has developed as opposed to being there from day one of use, a bit random. ni200 was fine until I tried SS and couldn't get a ni200 build to work so just used SS but am now thinking its a bigger issue......
I think you're right that it's a bigger issue. On my first vtc I used an atomizer with an ni build until I could get home and try ss. For 4 hours I didn't have any issues. When I got home the 2 ss builds I already had started having issues. I fiddled and fiddled with it. I thought I figured out why it kept kicking out of ss tc mode, but that was only temporary.

But like you, I went back to ni and that started having problems staying in tc. Granted the initial 4 hours I used ni wasn't very long, but I had no problems during that time. It wasn't until the ss mode started acting up that I had problems with ni.

Since exchanging my vtc for another one I haven't had a single issue with ni or ti. The only problem is ss. I also don't think it's a coincidence that my new vtc is much more stable with ohm readings.

I think the problem your mod and my first mod had are a faulty 510 connection somewhere. I had similar problems when I built my first dna40 box. Ohm readings where all over the place. The problem was my soldering job on one of the 510 connections to the board. I fixed it up and it's still running great a year later.

I have a feeling that the ss problem is just software. They probably used a different type of ss than most of us are using. I'm guessing they used 304 ss. I'm using 316 and I think a few others are using 317. I'm going to order some 304 and see if gets any better.

Edit - I forgot to add that my dad should be getting his vtc in the next few days so I'll have another one to compare mine to. I just have to find time to go to my parents house when it gets there.
 
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