eVic-VT mini?

[DavidAmonettNashville]

Get some new batteries for sure but the mod has the real time amperage being drawn on the screen so in a pinch, at least until your new batteries get here, you could double check that you weren't exceeding 10 amps by simply looking at the screen. On a side note I vape at 30 watts in TC at 530 degrees on the titanium coil and my amperage never goes above 8... so there's that

 

[cvigti]

I knew the first reply would be something like that (stay away from efest!)

Anyway, since I am going to buy some new batteries, I have been researching and I'm down to some batteries. The results of my research gave me these choices:

LG ICR HE4 (yellow?) C
LG ICR HD2 (pink?) D
LG HB6 (white?) E

The letters in front are the type of batteries, this coming from Pegasus Vapor Academy...
Type C - 2500mah/20A
Type D - 2000/25A
Type E - 1500/30A
Source:

However the joyetech site has this to say on the evic vtc mini page: "High rate battery is on the top list of our recommendation, such as Sony VTC 4."

All that being said, what do you all recommend? Do I really need a 30A battery on the evic vtc mini (doesn't it already have a cut-off of 20A?)
If I would go for the 30A should I go for the VTC 4 referred to as example on joyetech site or the LG HB6 recommended by Pegasus?
Before all this I was inclined for the samsung 25R but with this new information I don't know anymore...

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

I knew the first reply would be something like that (stay away from efest!)

Anyway, since I am going to buy some new batteries, I have been researching and I'm down to some batteries. The results of my research gave me these choices:

LG ICR HE4 (yellow?) C
LG ICR HD2 (pink?) D
LG HB6 (white?) E

The letters in front are the type of batteries, this coming from Pegasus Vapor Academy...
Type C - 2500mah/20A
Type D - 2000/25A
Type E - 1500/30A
Source:

However the joyetech site has this to say on the evic vtc mini page: "High rate battery is on the top list of our recommendation, such as Sony VTC 4."

All that being said, what do you all recommend? Do I really need a 30A battery on the evic vtc mini (doesn't it already have a cut-off of 20A?)
If I would go for the 30A should I go for the VTC 4 referred to as example on joyetech site or the LG HB6 recommended by Pegasus?
Before all this I was inclined for the samsung 25R but with this new information I don't know anymore...

I roll with the baby blue samsungs myself...Never let me down and I never have to worry.

 

[cvigti]

I roll with the baby blue samsungs myself...Never let me down and I never have to worry.

I love higher capacity so, in reality and after the research, I was more inclined to the LG HE4 (20A) a type C therefore.
But on the other hand on joytech site they use a Type E for reference, sony VTC 4...

What do you think? Since I'm going to buy some new batteries and only use them in the vtc mini I would like to make the best possible choice Does the vtc mini really have a 20A cutoff and does that mean that going for a battery with higher than that rating would be overkill? Or does that have nothing to do with it...?

 

[Kandem]

I use the green samsung 25R and at 75w, it'll shoot back to a lower wattage setting. I was told by my B&M shop that the battery can't handle 75 watts. I should go for a higher amperage batt but sacrifice longevity. How true is this statement?

 

[cvigti]

I use the green samsung 25R and at 75w, it'll shoot back to a lower wattage setting. I was told by my B&M shop that the battery can't handle 75 watts. I should go for a higher amperage batt but sacrifice longevity. How true is this statement?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the amp limit for safety inherent to regulated mods and their batteries...
Battery amps • mod low voltage cut off = max Watts
Using VTC mini
20A • 3.2V = 64W = 64W/3.2V=20A
Being the vtc mini a 75W device (at the moment): 75W/3.2V=23.4A

Therefore I guess a 25A battery would be the best suited for the vtc mini. Is that correct?
They recommend a 30A battery maybe for extra safety...since the device can go to 2,9v under load I think (weak battery warning when firing), according to the manual. That would be like 26A or something...

I am very tempted to buying the LG HB6 and be done with all of it.

75W/20A=3.75V is this where the vtc mini cut off kicks in? Does this mean below that voltage on the battery it won't fire at all or will it drop the W (not talking in TC)?
If this is the case then a 20A battery should be enough I think. Someone better informed please give us your input

 

[KenD]

Get some new batteries for sure but the mod has the real time amperage being drawn on the screen so in a pinch, at least until your new batteries get here, you could double check that you weren't exceeding 10 amps by simply looking at the screen. On a side note I vape at 30 watts in TC at 530 degrees on the titanium coil and my amperage never goes above 8... so there's that

The mini doesn't show the amp draw at the battery, it shows the amps at the atty. On a mech mod they would be the same but on a vw mod they're different. The amp display on the mini is for all intents and purposes useless.

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[KenD]

I knew the first reply would be something like that (stay away from efest!)

Anyway, since I am going to buy some new batteries, I have been researching and I'm down to some batteries. The results of my research gave me these choices:

LG ICR HE4 (yellow?) C
LG ICR HD2 (pink?) D
LG HB6 (white?) E

The letters in front are the type of batteries, this coming from Pegasus Vapor Academy...
Type C - 2500mah/20A
Type D - 2000/25A
Type E - 1500/30A
Source:

However the joyetech site has this to say on the evic vtc mini page: "High rate battery is on the top list of our recommendation, such as Sony VTC 4."

All that being said, what do you all recommend? Do I really need a 30A battery on the evic vtc mini (doesn't it already have a cut-off of 20A?)
If I would go for the 30A should I go for the VTC 4 referred to as example on joyetech site or the LG HB6 recommended by Pegasus?
Before all this I was inclined for the samsung 25R but with this new information I don't know anymore...

20 amp batteries are good for around 60w. If that's enough for you, the LG hg2 or Samsung 30q will give you the most battery time. For 75w you'll want 25+ amp batteries. The Sony vtc4 is good for that but the vtc5 is a 20 amp battery.

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[cvigti]

20 amp batteries are good for around 60w. If that's enough for you, the LG hg2 or Samsung 30q will give you the most battery time. For 75w you'll want 25+ amp batteries. The Sony vtc4 is good for that but the vtc5 is a 20 amp battery.

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Yeah but what about the evic vtc mini 20A cutoff? If the device has a 20 amp limit what's the point in having a 25A or 30A battery?

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

On a mech mod they would be the same

A mech mod has internal resistance too...

. The amp display on the mini is for all intents and purposes useless.

I like having it there and I suspect many others do to. Nothings perfect.

 

[Mactavish]

It would be useful if it read the batteries AMPS. Hopefully fixed in a future update.

 

[KenD]

A mech mod has internal resistance too...

I like having it there and I suspect many others do to. Nothings perfect.

It's not about internal resistance, it's that the amps shown have nothing at all to do with amp draw at the battery. The display shows the amps according to ohms law: v / resistance = amps. That's what the atomizer sees. HOWEVER, the amp draw at the battery is: w / battery charge level = amps (modified by mod efficiency). Thus the amp display doesn't show anything useful.

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[Quantum Mech]

Yep I agree, got mine today and have them dialed in using TCR 375 around 460-470F vape great there with Ti. The vape and the flavor is almost as good as the SX and with the spacers no more wobble. Do you run them with resistance locked or unlocked.

I leave them unlocked mate

And do get the odd occasion when they give a weak vape for no reason

I remove the battery , chuck it back in and all is good again

They aint no sx mini but great for the bucks

 

[Pete54]

OK I'm going to cheat here...I have read lots of this thread, and my mind is lost.
I have a uwell crown running a 0.5 SS (316) head. When I grab the update tonight after work, what setting would be best suited on the VTC mini?

I can run this ss head in power or in temp ss mode (v2.0 still atm). I'm looking for what I need for TCR 316 mode specifically, or should I just keep it in the new SS316 mode? Or even just keep running power mode? I like vape production and flavour as the crown gives great for both (even though it's battery and juice hungry).

Yes you can run it in power, SS316 or by using a manually input TCR.
The TCR for SS316 is 0.00092 which on the VTC Mini would be 0092, however, it does not work for me.

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

It's not about internal resistance, it's that the amps shown have nothing at all to do with amp draw at the battery. The display shows the amps according to ohms law: v / resistance = amps. That's what the atomizer sees. HOWEVER, the amp draw at the battery is: w / battery charge level = amps (modified by mod efficiency). Thus the amp display doesn't show anything useful.

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No you misunderstood me , you said on a mech mod they would be the same and I was reminding you that there are no perfect mech mods. Mech mods have internal resistance, Springs, switches etc...
And as far as a perfect reading on amp draw goes, I'm fine with a basic ohms law calculator built into my mod. Heck I used to have to do it I'm my head or fiddle with an online calculator. The fact that it's not absolutely unequivocally unimpeachable in its accuracy doesn't bother me much. I'm a simple vaper and i like it like that. My only real complaint is the small size of some of the screen info. Not old eye friendly.....

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

I leave them unlocked mate

And do get the odd occasion when they give a weak vape for no reason

I remove the battery , chuck it back in and all is good again

They aint no sx mini but great for the bucks

I also get the odd occasional week vape. Found a little trick that I do now whenever that happens. I blow down into the atty real quick and that seems to negate the problem for whatever reason. Try it.

 

[cvigti]

What about the evic vtc mini 20A cutoff? If the device has a 20 amp limit what's the point in having a 25A or 30A battery?

Any word on this? It's an Evic vtc mini thread...surely someone knows for a fact if the device has an amp limit and if that negates the point of having a larger battery rating than that?

 

[Quantum Mech]

I knew the first reply would be something like that (stay away from efest!)

Anyway, since I am going to buy some new batteries, I have been researching and I'm down to some batteries. The results of my research gave me these choices:

LG ICR HE4 (yellow?) C
LG ICR HD2 (pink?) D
LG HB6 (white?) E

The letters in front are the type of batteries, this coming from Pegasus Vapor Academy...
Type C - 2500mah/20A
Type D - 2000/25A
Type E - 1500/30A
Source:

However the joyetech site has this to say on the evic vtc mini page: "High rate battery is on the top list of our recommendation, such as Sony VTC 4."

All that being said, what do you all recommend? Do I really need a 30A battery on the evic vtc mini (doesn't it already have a cut-off of 20A?)
If I would go for the 30A should I go for the VTC 4 referred to as example on joyetech site or the LG HB6 recommended by Pegasus?
Before all this I was inclined for the samsung 25R but with this new information I don't know anymore...

Some good battery info here

(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum

18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With | E-Cigarette Forum

Battery choice is up to your individual needs

I use Samsung 25R, Sony VTC5 & LG HE4 but I don't push them often above 15amps

 

[DavidAmonettNashville]

What about the evic vtc mini 20A cutoff? If the device has a 20 amp limit what's the point in having a 25A or 30A battery?

Any word on this? It's an Evic vtc mini thread...surely someone knows for a fact if the device has an amp limit and if that negates the point of having a larger battery rating than that?

I don't know about the built in cut off question. Sorry. If it were me I'd get a couple of Samsung 25 R and be done with it.

 

[cvigti]

Some good battery info here

(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum

18650 Safety Grades -- Picking a Safe Battery to Vape With | E-Cigarette Forum

Battery choice is up to your individual needs

I use Samsung 25R, Sony VTC5 & LG HE4 but I don't push them often above 15amps

Yeah I pretty much know what battery I would like at each amp point. The doubt I have know is what amp point to choose...
The highest amp I will reach will be with some 0.15 ni200 ohm nautilus coils in TC...at 75W.
Now...if there is that amp limit on the device, I could get some 20A batteries which have a better capacity. But if there is no amp limit on the device, or if it is higher than 20A, then I want the max safety and would probably go with some 25A or even 30A. But if there is that limit and if it means I don't need higher than 20A I wouldn't want to have lower capacity for nothing In a nutshell I would run it set at 75W in TC (if there's no amp limit on the device I would be worried, if there is I want capacity).