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Well my response from VapeNW was my device was working fine. I sent them a video with multiple tanks and then using the same tank on another mod to show the coil was fine. But to them a board that is malfunctioning is working properly. I explained a lot to them and that this is not user error they just kept saying that is how the board is supposed to operate. I spent 250$ there in the past month but they won't replace a broken device. I will NEVER BUY FROM VapeNW again. I would say just use caution and if it's something you may have to return remember this story. It was just very frustrating listening to the CS guy saying that I was wrong and this is how the joytech VT and VTC mini chips work and he could do nothing for me accept deny me my right to a warranty.
Wow that really sucks.

I have read horror stories about VapeNW's lack of CS... We have a similar place here in Canada, that will gladly take your money, but it's a fight right from the get go if you have any issues.
 

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Yeah I'm really disappointed with VapeNW. I really thought that with the 2 videos I sent them along with the page explanation of what was wrong there wouldn't be any problem returning it. He really insulted me when he just kept saying "that's how it works". I kept asking him how would you feel if you got a broken device and the company you got it from wouldn't replace it and he didn't say a word. The only things were I'm sorry we can't help and that's how they work. It was a complete joke and I can't believe I gave them my money.
 
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I would expect it to go into instant TP at 60W, but not at 25W till a dry coil.

I have tried and can repeat it every time. Clear the settings, put an room temp RTA on with a 0.16 ohm coil, lock in the showing resistance of 0.16. Settings at 430/25W and have an excellent vape with the TP never showing once till dry or if you just hold the button without vaping.

This isn't proper operation. I can reach 450F on the Reliant @ 9.5W while vaping a kayfun. Not until I start running out of inhalation power but this is at 9.5W.

The device must engage TP to regulate the set temperature. If you are at 25W the device should easily be able to reach 430F even while lung inhaling.

I understand the major issue is with ohm fluctuations after the screen timeout but you must understand TP engaging isn't incorrect operation.
 

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This isn't proper operation. I can reach 450F on the Reliant @ 9.5W while vaping a kayfun. Not until I start running out of inhalation power but this is at 9.5W.

The device must engage TP to regulate the set temperature. If you are at 25W the device should easily be able to reach 430F even while lung inhaling.

I understand the major issue is with ohm fluctuations after the screen timeout but you must understand TP engaging isn't incorrect operation.
I understand that it needs to go into TP to regulate the coil. I don't have a problem with that, I have a problem with it going and staying there within a half second and the power dropping to 4W from 25W.

The Ti build that I am running in Ni mode will hit TP regularly with the power only dipping into the 15W range from 25W. This is a lot less anemic than dropping and hovering around 4W. The Ti in Ni mode spends more time out of TP than in so I do think that the mini is sort of working the way it should.
 

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I understand that it needs to go into TP to regulate the coil. I don't have a problem with that, I have a problem with it going and staying there within a half second and the power dropping to 4W from 25W.

The Ti build that I am running in Ni mode will hit TP regularly with the power only dipping into the 15W range from 25W. This is a lot less anemic than dropping and hovering around 4W. The Ti in Ni mode spends more time out of TP than in so I do think that the mini is sort of working the way it should.

When you say anemic could you give me a comparable example in wattage mode?

ex. You're wanting to vape a dripper at 30 watts but it's vaping at 5 watts.

I'm trying to better understand just how weak your TC vape is when misbehaving.
 

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When you say anemic could you give me a comparable example in wattage mode?

ex. You're wanting to vape a dripper at 30 watts but it's vaping at 5 watts.

I'm trying to better understand just how weak your TC vape is when misbehaving.
That is a perfect example, take a dripper with a single 24g 0.5 build. Fire it up at 30W for your first vape and it is a nice warm vape. Then while you are taking you second vape at 30W drop the power to 4W, bring it back up to 15W for a split second and and back down to 5W. Rinse and repeat.
 
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That is a perfect example, take a dripper with a single 24g 0.5 build. Fire it up at 30W for your first vape and it is a nice warm vape. Then while you are taking you second vape at 30W drop the power to 4W, bring it back up to 15W for a split second and and back down to 5W. Rinse and repeat.

Yeah that sucks.

When it's vaping nicely and TP engages does the vape get weak then? Before the resistance issue happens.
 
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Yeah that sucks.

When it's vaping nicely and TP engages does the vape get weak then? Before the resistance issue happens.
It is no where near as noticeable, the power never hits single digit untill the wick is dry.
I have never actually sat down and recorded the numbers in "good mode", I just enjoyed the vape while it was working. ;)

The Ti build in Ni mode now running at 380F/30W dips in and out of TP quite often but the numbers seem to stay decent, it's a little noticeable but very usable. I have been running this way since this morning and no issue yet. (Fingers Crossed)
 
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Yeah using titanium in ni200 mode is the way to go. And you can also use SS in titanium mode but you have to start around 200f or so. These two ways are the only way my wife can enjoy this device. It's just been so frustrating. I have contacted joytech today and explained everything in great detail and said how there are quite a few people with the same issues so I'll let everyone know what happens with that.
 

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Mine was stiff then I grabbed a small screwdriver and pushed it in then it seemed fine. not sure if that will work for you but it's worth a try. I wouldn't push too hard on it though.
thanks. I did try that and not much movement. Its working fine apart from that. Even in Ti mode!!
 

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I think all of you with problems use low quality atomizers.

I'm usic Evic in Ni mode with FeV v3 and Tilemahos v2 without any issues
By gawd that's it!! :thumbs:
It's not firmware or electronics or Joyetech or anything like that at all. You just need to order in better gear!

Case in point
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This FeV V3 with the glass tank does NOT cut the mustard... :oops:

So I am going to talk to the wife to see if I can spend, lets see bad Canadian dollar right now, approximately $250 USD to get an Authentic shipped in from Artur Schwarze himself with a 4 week wait because of the shipping he uses.

I bought different kinds of Ni 200, now Ti wire, one more small expenditure and the $28.89 eVic VTC mini will work properly!

Who's with me? Maybe we can get a group discount from Artur. :thumbs:
 

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I think all of you with problems use low quality atomizers.

I'm usic Evic in Ni mode with FeV v3 and Tilemahos v2 without any issues

lol... yeah, my authentic Origen V3 is pretty low quality. Couldn't be the $30 mod is a flaming turd. Nope.

And with that, I'm out. I jettisoned the VTC. I have no patience for a device which doesn't operate properly. For those of you with fully functional mods, congratulations. For those with malfunctioning devices I hope a resolution is found.
 

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    Thanks, that's more like it. LOL.

    As to a TC coil at 1.9... my first thought is space to fit such a build, though I only know Ti is higher res/mm not how much higher. Can it be done in either Ni or Ti?

    But mainly... I think each of my TC mods has a stated max res for TC, usually under or at 1 ohm. I know some do, I'm just speculating about the rest (too lazy to check right now). :p

    While it is not a evic-vt-mini, I'm vaping a Lemo2 2.03ohm SS430 build with my Apollo Reliant. However many of the TC mods do have a upper limit to the resistance they can regulate temperature with. If your firing a 0.5ohm coil (cold) on a TC mod the hot resistance can be easily +2x the base resistance (1ohm) where as a 2.0ohm coil (cold) at temperature (hot) might have 4.0ohms, limiting the available power to fire the coil when it is hot.

    Because of limitations of maximum boost voltage output most mods also have a resistance limit that they can fire in VW/VV mode.
     

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    The vt mini is an awesome device, UNTIL you bump into the Ti bug. Vape for a few minutes ax expected. Leave it on the side, it goes to sleep. Wake it up, slight decrease in resistance and constant anaemic vape, with Temperature protection appearing instantly, even though the coil is nowhere near it. Until they fix this, the mod is useless for me.
     

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    The vt mini is an awesome device, UNTIL you bump into the Ti bug. Vape for a few minutes ax expected. Leave it on the side, it goes to sleep. Wake it up, slight decrease in resistance and constant anaemic vape, with Temperature protection appearing instantly, even though the coil is nowhere near it. Until they fix this, the mod is useless for me.
    Sorry to hear that and welcome to the club.

    Have you tried a high end atty or a tiny gauge build? ;)
     
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